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sophocles07
05-30-2008, 10:09 AM
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/blame-libertari.html


"Republicans need to be Republicans. The greatest threat to classic Republicanism is not liberalism; it’s this new brand of libertarianism, which is social liberalism and economic conservatism, but it’s a heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism because it says “look, we want to cut taxes and eliminate government. If it means that elderly people don’t get their Medicare drugs, so be it. If it means little kids go without education and healthcare, so be it.” Well, that might be a quote pure economic conservative message, but it’s not an American message. It doesn’t fly. People aren’t going to buy that, because that’s not the way we are as a people. That’s not historic Republicanism. Historic Republicanism does not hate government; it’s just there to be as little of it as there can be. But they also recognize that government has to be paid for."


Sullivan gets this from an interview here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-mari/huckabee-on-the-next-repu_b_103556.html

crazyfingers
05-30-2008, 10:17 AM
Yeah this has been posted before. I think the fact that the socialist RINO Huckabee feels the need to launch an unfair attack means we're making real progress. He feels threatened, as well he should.

BillyDkid
05-30-2008, 10:23 AM
Yeah, live and let live. Own your own life and make your own decisions about it. Let people be. Real threatening and dangerous philosophy. Become a ward and dependent and servant of the state - them's real Amerikan values. Huckabee is a piece of shit like all the rest of his ilk. You know, you have to wonder what books these people read in school and how did they come away with exactly the opposite message - 1984, Animal Farm, Darkness at noon and so on. You have to wonder if they didn't think the bad guys were the heros.

pinkmandy
05-30-2008, 10:23 AM
He just defined himself as a liberal.

WRellim
05-30-2008, 10:35 AM
But since "Libertarianism" now simply means the fugly face of Bob Barr... it's pretty meaningless.



Obeying the CONSTITUTION is the key...

yongrel
05-30-2008, 10:45 AM
Because I needed more evidence that Huckabee is a schmuck.

dvdrink
05-30-2008, 05:15 PM
As if Libertarians don't believe in giving to charity and helping people!

F-you Huckabee, and your moral high horse. Don't underestimate libertarians or anyone else, who gladly give to charity, and would give more if it weren't for this war in Iraq that's making us all go bankrupt.

Truth Warrior
05-30-2008, 05:51 PM
Consider the source. :p :rolleyes:

Fox McCloud
05-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Wow, he's really showing his Libertarian side.....he also evidently hasn't heard of Bary Goldwater, who was likely even more of a Libertarian than Ron Paul is.

It's also not like we advocate abolishing things overnight; the general sentiment I've seen in this forums is to slowly phase things out over the years, and honor contracts that are already in existence (but not take any new ones).

I'm really surprised he attacked the economic and not the social aspect of Libertarianism, as he probably would have gained more support that way than to attack those who are fiscally conservative....gosh, this guy is a moron.

Besides, States would still have the right to do what they wanted, it's just the Federal government wouldn't have that authority.......and even if the States didn't do something, as someone else pointed out, there's still charity and the market itself to provide those services.

this really proves that when he was acting all Libertarian-esque during the primaries, it was all just pandering to earn himself additional votes.

Huckabee, you suck.

dvdrink
05-30-2008, 07:32 PM
McCain's potential VP is launching a pre-emptive strike against Bob Barr.... in close races in battleground states, the libertarian movement will have unprecendented influence.

bill50
05-30-2008, 07:35 PM
He just defined himself as a liberal.

You got that right. And I bet he doesn't know that the Democrats aren't liberals. They are communists that like gays. His idea of Republicans are actually fascists.

AutoDas
05-30-2008, 07:53 PM
Fascism and socialism aren't American. What is is individualism and capitalism. That is the American culture and creed.

Patriot123
05-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Huckleberry for military dictator in 2012 :cool:

Fox McCloud
05-30-2008, 10:13 PM
McCain's potential VP is launching a pre-emptive strike against Bob Barr.... in close races in battleground states, the libertarian movement will have unprecendented influence.

I wouldn't be surprised if McCain selects him as VP, just to play politics and get most of the "evangelical" vote.

RedLightning
05-30-2008, 10:58 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain selects him as VP, just to play politics and get most of the "evangelical" vote.

I don't think he needs Hucky. It seems that most of the evangelical vote goes for Republican no matter what.

Minestra di pomodoro
05-30-2008, 11:27 PM
He just defined himself as a liberal.

No, he defined himself as a social conservative.

pcosmar
05-31-2008, 07:42 AM
No, he defined himself as a Socialist conservative.

There.
fixed it for you

Minestra di pomodoro
05-31-2008, 07:46 AM
There.
fixed it for you

Big government does not necessarily equal socialist.

pcosmar
05-31-2008, 07:58 AM
Big government does not necessarily equal socialist.

Perhaps not, But Socialism guarantees big government.
The redistributing of wealth through government programs IS socialism.
The welfare state IS socialism.

We need to utterly wipe socialism/collectivism from the face of the earth.

Minestra di pomodoro
05-31-2008, 07:59 AM
We.....

What did you say?!

pcosmar
05-31-2008, 08:07 AM
What did you say?!

That's you talking, not me.

Minestra di pomodoro
05-31-2008, 08:09 AM
:rolleyes:

pcosmar
05-31-2008, 08:53 AM
What did you say?!

Your ignorance is astounding. I have never spoken against Jews or the Jewish faith.
Quite the contrary, in fact I consider Myself a Jew by Faith.

And since my Tattoos are on (govt) file anyway. I wear this.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/2538937394_320f18ac00.jpg?v=0

And you can STFU now.