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LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 12:47 PM
Ron Paul's aim is more than becoming the next president of this country. It is short-sighted for anyone to think otherwise, in my opinion. No. Ron Paul intends to redirect the Republican Party. That is the goal. Reforming the Republican Party should be the primary goal at this time. The best way to do this is though the presidential candidacy of Ron Paul.

Today, I have become increasingly alarmed. By and large, I have noticed that Ron Paul has become lost in the shuffle with the many distractions, such as Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin, and just how libertarian is this person or that. This even as the MSM seems to be fascinated by Bob Barr, if for no other reason than that Bob Barr is to John McCain in 2008 what Ralph Nader was to Al Gore in 2000. It takes away from the fact that Ron Paul got 24% in Idaho, and that in State after State, the Republican Leadership plays games so that Ron Paul cannot get Delegates, such as Nevada's fiasco.

Keeping in mind Ron Paul's video message on March 6, 2008, which is still available to watch on his official campaign website in case anyone needs a refresher, I have come to the conclusion that Ron Paul has one intention at this time, and that is to influence the future direction of the ... wait for it ... REPUBLICAN PARTY. In this same video, Ron Paul told us quite clearly that he is not going to get the nomination for the Republican Party. Yet this is no reason to give up the campaign or enthusiasm.

Some people seem to think that Ron Paul will get to speak at the Republican Convention if he keeps from endorsing another Party's nominee. Well, this is problematic for two reasons: first, it is currently against the law for him to do so; second, I highly doubt Ron Paul will be allowed to speak unless he officially endorses the nomination of John McCain. Unless the sky opens and a loud voice from space commands Ron Paul to do this, after throwing lightning at Ron Paul, Ron Paul is not going to endorse John McCain. Nor should McCain be endorsed simply to gain a speaking slot.

The real issue is to present the Republican Party with a stark choice, and that choice is represented by Ron Paul. This means that Ron Paul must have as much Capital going into the Convention as possible. This means that Ron Paul has as much Delegates and prestige going into the Convention. For lack of a better word, Ron Paul's constituency could be called the Ron Paul Wing. In every stage of the Convention, this Wing must make itself heard. When the Republican Party platform is discussed and voting on, the Ron Paul Wing must be loud and clear. The party must understand that it is making a choice on which direction it will go.

The best substantive method of gaining the Capital Ron Paul needs to take into the Republican Convention is the March that Ron Paul referenced in his March 6 video. The higher the attendance, the greater the impact. I'm not just talking about MSM attention, though that is a great result. No, it's a demonstration to both the current Republican Party leadership and to the American people as a whole. This distaste for the Republican Party with the American people can even be exploited to show that Ron Paul is not a Republican like those that the American people usually think of. No one can tie Ron Paul to anything related to George W. Bush, or the corruption that has infiltrated the Republican Party, or the vast incompetence, or the authoritarian interventionist neocon totalitarians that currently hold so much sway with the leadership of the Republican Party.

In my opinion, only after the Republican Convention should supporters of Ron Paul seriously consider another candidate such as Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin, or someone else. I think after the Convention, Ron Paul will have the opportunity to endorse a candidate, or to say multiple candidates are fine. Ron Paul might tell his supporters to officially leave the Republican Party. Ron Paul himself might leave the Republican Party. Yet all this must happen after the Convention. Until the Convention, supporters of Ron Paul do damage by entertaining thoughts of other Party candidates.

The first priority should be to reform the Republican Party rather than jumping ship at every distraction that comes along, at least until the Ron Paul Wing has been officially rejected by the Republican Party at its National Convention.

SLSteven
05-28-2008, 12:49 PM
Republican as long as Ron Paul is

LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 12:56 PM
Also, it should be kept in mind that Delegates are only bound to vote for a candidate. All Delegates can vote yes or no on each plank of the Republican Party platform. Even with John McCain as the nominee, the platform can still be reformed in such a way that it will be difficult for John McCain.

LittleLightShining
05-28-2008, 01:00 PM
Great OP. I agree wholeheartedly.

phixion
05-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Also, it should be kept in mind that Delegates are only bound to vote for a candidate. All Delegates can vote yes or no on each plank of the Republican Party platform. Even with John McCain as the nominee, the platform can still be reformed in such a way that it will be difficult for John McCain.

The president will do as he likes once in office and won't have any problems due to some 'platform'.

Pete

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
Also, it should be kept in mind that Delegates are only bound to vote for a candidate. All Delegates can vote yes or no on each plank of the Republican Party platform. Even with John McCain as the nominee, the platform can still be reformed in such a way that it will be difficult for John McCain.

The platform is non-binding and the party leadership already ignores it. However, it can be a great tool for making the rank & file party members actually use their brains.

ARealConservative
05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
Ron Paul is the top priority.

Ron Paul Republicans just took over the Libertarian Party....Same with the Constitution Party. Most of us never left the GOP as we are going to the convention so this makes us extremely ecstatic.

Many of us got tired of the semantics of the Libertarian Party and gave up on them long ago....for good reason.

Here is a reply from Mary Ruwart - who finished second place.


But bans on child pornography are like bans on drugs and prostitution. They don’t work. They only make a bad situation worse. We’ve driven the child pornography market underground, where profits soar and criminals abound. That’s why thousands of children are kidnapped each year and forced into sexual slavery.

This is pure idiocy, and has nothing to do with Ron Paul Republicanism. We don't need this nonsense in the debates. The war on drugs and prostitution is a victimless crime and we oppose it for that reason, not because banning molestation "doesn't work".

Banning murder doesn't work either - but who gives a rats ass - I still want it illegal.

LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 01:08 PM
The Delegates can also determine the leadership of the party. They can oust each and every member of the National Committee if they chose to.

LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 01:10 PM
The platform is non-binding and the party leadership already ignores it. However, it can be a great tool for making the rank & file party members actually use their brains.

After watching the Libertarians, I see that it is possible to change the platform and bylaws so that Republican Party candidates and elected persons must abide by the platform. Hey, this could even work to evict someone like McCain from the party.

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-28-2008, 01:13 PM
After watching the Libertarians, I see that it is possible to change the platform and bylaws so that Republican Party candidates and elected persons must abide by the platform. Hey, this could even work to evict someone like McCain from the party.

The leaders of the Republicans as well as Democrats totally ignore the Constitution itself. They will ignore any platform we pass as well.

LittleLightShining
05-28-2008, 01:15 PM
This is pure idiocy, and has nothing to do with Ron Paul Republicanism. We don't need this nonsense in the debates. The war on drugs and prostitution is a victimless crime and we oppose it for that reason, not because banning molestation "doesn't work".

Banning murder doesn't work either - but who gives a rats ass - I still want it illegal.
QFT

goldstandard
05-28-2008, 01:16 PM
Good post. I agree.

LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 01:24 PM
Incidently, child pornography is nothing like drugs. I will always hold that the government has an absolute right to do everything it can to prevent the exploitation of children. Call me authoritarian if you want. Child pornography should be illegal. Children have no concept of what sex is. I dare anyone to tell me different.

Kotin
05-28-2008, 01:27 PM
Incidently, child pornography is nothing like drugs. I will always hold that the government has an absolute right to do everything it can to prevent the exploitation of children. Call me authoritarian if you want. Child pornography should be illegal. Children have no concept of what sex is. I dare anyone to tell me different.

completely true.


people cannot even mentally process sex until they are 16 or older.

Quantum
05-28-2008, 01:29 PM
people cannot even mentally process sex until they are 16 or older.

That's a debatable point....

LibertyCzar
05-28-2008, 01:35 PM
people cannot even mentally process sex until they are 16 or older.

Teens, though not legally, say high school age might have some concept.

Most of child pornography contains minors much younger than that, however. And when I say children have no concept of sex, I refer to children as young as 6 or 7. That is why I cannot fathom how someone could even suggest a 6 year old is fine with being exploited sexually on camera. How could someone really consent to something if they don't even comprehend what they are doing?

And this is an add on to the subdiscussion started by Mary Ruwart's quote given by ARealConservative.

pepperpete1
05-28-2008, 04:51 PM
I whole heartily agree with the OP and with Pete.

LibertyCzar
06-03-2008, 12:39 PM
I would like to add something from an article I posted elsewhere:

That is not a minor consideration. Paul is the Ranking Member of one House Committe on Financial Services subcommittee (Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade and Technology), and the Vice-Chair of another (Oversight and Investigations). He also serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Joint [House-Senate] Economic Committee. All of those positions give him forums for his message, with greater publicity for it now than ever; but Paul enjoys all of them at his party's pleasure.

Regardless of what happens this year, I believe Ron Paul himself will stay with the Republican Party. His message is the most important, and a great way to spread the message is through tough questions of people at these committees. Then these can be posted on YouTube and elsewhere.