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rpfan2008
05-28-2008, 09:37 AM
Investigators say a ‘‘survivalist” with a stockpile of food and more than 30 weapons and 230 pounds of chemicals was ‘‘rolling along” in producing explosives in his Gaithersburg townhouse when he was arrested last week.When authorities searched the man’s home, they also found his 12-year-old son sleeping with a loaded handgun under his pillow and another within reach, county police said.

An anonymous tip about illegal fireworks led federal and county investigators to James L. Boka, 47, of the 9100 block of Turtle Dove Lane in the Charlene neighborhood off Goshen Road, officials said. He was arrested May 21 and charged with 11 counts of possession of a destructive device, two counts of reckless endangerment and one count of weapon endangerment to a minor, according to a statement from county fire officials. He was released from custody the same day on $60,000 bond.

‘‘The amount of chemicals that he had in his house were a public safety hazard,” said Kenneth Korenblatt, battalion chief of Montgomery County’s Fire and Explosives Investigations unit. ‘‘...We were just glad we were able to stop this guy because he was already rolling along.”

Boka is not suspected of terrorism, Korenblatt said, describing him as a ‘‘survivalist.”

Boka could not be reached for comment. A woman answering the phone at his home Tuesday declined to comment. State property records indicate that Boka bought his townhouse in 1998.

A James Boka registered with an online Ron Paul county group described himself as a U.S. Navy veteran who has ‘‘worked inside Washington for 25 years in nearly every major agency, including World Bank, Pentagon.”

‘‘I have been aware of the plan to destroy the USA for many years now and I have grown tired of preaching the danger to so many people who do not want to hear it,” the profile continues. ‘‘...There is nothing more important to any American right now than to fight off the attempts of the New World Order and its puppet masters from destroying the last few pieces of the United States Constitution before it is too late. I want to help in any way I can so my son does not grow up in a fascist police state.”

Police are trying to determine whether the weapons found in Boka’s home – including handguns, rifles, machine guns, silencers, ballistic body armor and several thousand rounds of ammunition – were obtained legally, according to county police spokesman Lt. Paul Starks.

It is believed Boka, who was stockpiling food as well, legally bought the 46 kinds of chemicals online, Korenblatt said.

After receiving the anonymous complaint, an investigator conducting surveillance in the neighborhood observed a fireworks display around 9 p.m. on May 20, and then saw Boka walking out of a field toward his house with his son while carrying a mortar tube and a lighter, Starks said. The investigator questioned him and left after Boka turned over the items, he said.

The investigator returned to Boka’s home that night and saw him loading boxes of fireworks into his vehicle, Starks said. A loaded handgun was also in his possession, Korenblatt said.

The investigator again confronted Boka, who consented to a search of his home.

During the search, the investigator discovered Boka’s young son sleeping within reach of a loaded handgun and another under his pillow, Starks said.

Boka’s neighbors expressed shock about the arrest.

‘‘I was really surprised,” said Therese Provencher, 25, who moved next door to Boka with her husband about a month ago. ‘‘They’ve always been very pleasant, very nice, always willing to help us out,” she said.

An Amazon.com wish list registered to a Jim Boka from Gaithersburg includes books on homemade fireworks and rocket construction, disaster survival, UFOs, government conspiracies, military history and how to carry a concealed weapon. Other selections included a night-vision weapon sight and scope, a gun safe and an air rifle. The wish list begins with an item added in 2002 and mostly features products such as children’s books, DVDs and toys until late 2005.

‘‘All of a sudden he started to do this kind of stuff,” Korenblatt said.

Boka is currently unemployed, Korenblatt said. His computing services and Web design company, Pulsar Network Services, is no longer accepting new clients, according to its Web site.

Virginia-based couples counselor Chris Wright, a former client of Boka’s, was also surprised.

‘‘I can’t imagine,” he said. ‘‘Jim’s not that kind of guy.”

Those who met Boka when he volunteered with the Montgomery County Emergency Communications Agency, which assists with radio communications during emergencies, agreed.

‘‘He used to be one of the old stalwart members,” President Ben Acton said. Boka stopped attending meetings about a year ago, Acton said. ‘‘He just didn’t seem into it anymore,” he said.

why RP is mentioned here?

RideTheDirt
05-28-2008, 10:14 AM
Wow, this guy has a bunch of shit to survive and he is arrested.If you don't rely on welfare and have supplies to survive I guess you're a "tarist"

BTW, they mentioned Ron Paul because they want everyone to know we're the ones who are prepared for after SHTF, but we all know that anyone who comes to us trying to steal or kill, will understand very clearly why socialism doesn't work,especially when the government is broke from inflation/debt (see:history).They will also understand why the founding fathers secured our right to bear arms.

crazyfingers
05-28-2008, 10:20 AM
It's an obvious attempt to discredit Ron Paul and his ideas.

The real question is why was this guy arrested if he didn't do anything to harm anyone else?

rpfan2008
05-28-2008, 10:34 AM
It's an obvious attempt to discredit Ron Paul and his ideas.

The real question is why was this guy arrested if he didn't do anything to harm anyone else?

he was arrested in minor charges, as he almost immediately got bail.

yongrel
05-28-2008, 10:41 AM
Shitty journalism is shitty.

phixion
05-28-2008, 10:49 AM
I can't believe him of all people consented to a search!

Pete

Bruno
05-28-2008, 10:50 AM
I can't believe him of all people consented to a search!

Pete

Never consent. If they have enough evidence, they will get a warrent. If you don't consent and they search anyway, the case will likely get thrown out.

orafi
05-28-2008, 10:50 AM
Wow, this guy has a bunch of shit to survive and he is arrested.If you don't rely on welfare and have supplies to survive I guess you're a "tarist"

BTW, they mentioned Ron Paul because they want everyone to know we're the ones who are prepared for after SHTF, but we all know that anyone who comes to us trying to steal or kill, will understand very clearly why socialism doesn't work,especially when the government is broke from inflation/debt (see:history).They will also understand why the founding fathers secured our right to bear arms.

"see:history"?

more like "see: common fucking sense"!

mconder
05-28-2008, 11:01 AM
After receiving the anonymous complaint, an investigator conducting surveillance in the neighborhood observed a fireworks display around 9 p.m. on May 20, and then saw Boka walking out of a field toward his house with his son while carrying a mortar tube and a lighter, Starks said.

Probably dialed into one of those 1-800-snitch hotlines. Gezz, I'm glad my neighbors are way cooler than this. We have a giant neighborhood mortar display evey year, complete with music and have never had any trouble. I guess the trick is having one of your neighbors at the illegal fireworks display be the city prosecutor.

Danke
05-28-2008, 11:03 AM
‘‘I was really surprised,” said Therese Provencher, 25, who moved next door to Boka with her husband about a month ago. ‘‘They’ve always been very pleasant, very nice, always willing to help us out,” she said.


Lady! He had fireworks for Pete's sake!

mconder
05-28-2008, 11:08 AM
‘‘They’ve always been very pleasant, very nice, always willing to help us out,” she said.

I'm sure the neighborhood snitch would be the first to except this guy's help in a natural disaster or some other kind of emergency. What a dumb ass to make an enemy of a neighbor like this!

klamath
05-28-2008, 11:10 AM
Pretty bad. The guy harmed no one and was good to those around him.

mczerone
05-28-2008, 12:36 PM
There is no crime unless those explosives blow up or his 12 year old has an incident with one of those weapons.

Are they dangerous? Of course they can be, but that doesn't mean he wasn't doing it right, and being careful, and training his son to use weapons properly. If fireworks weren't dangerous, there would be no explosion to watch. If guns weren't dangerous, they wouldn't be used for protection.

RP was mentioned in the article to (a) give where they found his presence online, as any 2-bit sleuth would do, and (b) reinforce the meme that only 'kooks' like Paul, and Paul is a 'kook'.

I hope this guy gets a good lawyer that makes his local law system look foolish in court for being worried about a survivalist.

The only thing that is likely to stick are charges related solely to fireworks possession and manufacture. And even that is based on faulty law.

Cowlesy
05-28-2008, 07:24 PM
It just goes to show that whatever you post on the internet lasts forever and will be used against you if possible.

rathskeller
05-28-2008, 07:36 PM
Wow, this guy has a bunch of shit to survive and he is arrested.If you don't rely on welfare and have supplies to survive I guess you're a "tarist"

BTW, they mentioned Ron Paul because they want everyone to know we're the ones who are prepared for after SHTF, but we all know that anyone who comes to us trying to steal or kill, will understand very clearly why socialism doesn't work,especially when the government is broke from inflation/debt (see:history).They will also understand why the founding fathers secured our right to bear arms.


You are kidding right ? You really thing that this guy was doign a RESPONSIBLE thing?

It is sad that you think that yuour own way to survive the downturn in the economy is to shoot people. Or that you think that this is going to become the old west where you will need to defend your home every day. How about getting a job?

You do far more harm than good. To everyone, including Ron Paul and yourself. Don't put your own inadequacies onto everyone else. If you are doing a moneky work and not getting enough money, then change your life. It is long past time fo that. But to suggest that a man allowing a small kid to sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow is a GOOD thing will never make you appear intelligent. Ever.

newbitech
05-28-2008, 07:57 PM
You are kidding right ? You really thing that this guy was doign a RESPONSIBLE thing?

It is sad that you think that yuour own way to survive the downturn in the economy is to shoot people. Or that you think that this is going to become the old west where you will need to defend your home every day. How about getting a job?

You do far more harm than good. To everyone, including Ron Paul and yourself. Don't put your own inadequacies onto everyone else. If you are doing a moneky work and not getting enough money, then change your life. It is long past time fo that. But to suggest that a man allowing a small kid to sleep with a loaded gun under his pillow is a GOOD thing will never make you appear intelligent. Ever.

12 years old and knows how to use a weapon i'm sure. who are you to tell this man has to raise his son?

in case you haven't noticed, there have been food riots going on around the world. this man has every right to protect his stock piles. you are assuming that those hungry people are going to ask nicely? it will be worse than the old west because 99% of americans wouldn't know what to do without fast food or convenience stores.

exactly what inadequacies are you trying to point out? that the man doesn't have a job? the job market is the worse I have seen it in my 32 years. sure there are lots of posting maybe 100 new ones a day where I am from. But there are 1000's of people looking for work. so even myself and 100 other people take your simple advice to change our lives, what are the other 900 going to do?

one day in the not so distant future hardship will strike all of us and you would be lucky to have a guy like this in you neighborhood who will certainly lead the way.

Trigonx
05-28-2008, 08:22 PM
It just goes to show that whatever you post on the internet lasts forever and will be used against you if possible.

that is what i found the most disgusting, how they used all the crap from his wishlists and other information on the internet to try and paint a picture of who he is.

satchelmcqueen
05-28-2008, 08:36 PM
What crap! Well, i guess by that definition, im a survivalist also. oh no,...hes got 32 cans of spam and some 12 gauge rounds!

idiom
05-28-2008, 10:54 PM
If you aren't up to your eyeballs in debt, is because you are a survivalist and a pessimist.

Eric21ND
05-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Sounds like a great guy to have at a party.

kirkblitz
05-29-2008, 12:09 AM
they will hit him with WMD charges, f his retarded neighbors. Where is my billion dollar secret hidden island when i need one.

fr33domfightr
05-29-2008, 12:21 AM
How the heck can someone else see your Amazon wish list?!?!

The reporter went overboard on the online search, IMHO.

FF

Dorfsmith
05-29-2008, 12:28 AM
How the heck can someone else see your Amazon wish list?!?!

The reporter went overboard on the online search, IMHO.

FF

That does seem a bit overboard. I guess a wish list could be public information. I never looked at mine close enough to see if someone else could view it. Either way, that is one of the worst articles I have ever seen. They were looking for every excuse to tear the poor guy apart.

Crickett
05-29-2008, 10:03 AM
he was arrested in minor charges, as he almost immediately got bail.

..Yeah, chemicals to produce fireworks and fly a toy rocket..jeeze. How many pounds of food? For crying out loud..a few roasts in the freezer and a sack of rice and sugar seem to add up to that...THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS!

Tarzan
05-29-2008, 10:15 AM
What I can't believe are people defending the manufacture of explosives (fireworks) in a townhouse with neighbors sharing walls perhaps on either side of this guy. Manufacturing fireworks is dangerous business and we occasionally see news where a plant will explode. He was placing himself, his son and his neighbors in danger with this irresponsible activity. He should be free to do this where he is not endangering others. He should NOT be allowed to risk the life and property of others.

This is where the Libertarian nonsense just goes too far. The notion that you can do anything you want, including endangering others, is an unacceptable concept. We live in a society whether we like it or not. Unless you walk naked into the woods; where no human has been or will ever be, you will never have complete Liberty to do what ever you want.

There is a line and it sounds like this guy crossed it by some distance. Defending such irresponsible conduct is the part I do not understand.