RedState defends Paul's lone "NO" vote

[Lucille]

RedState defends Paul's lone "NO" vote on the "Genetic Non-Discrimination Act." But cannot bring themselves to mention his name or give him the kudos he deserves.

President Bush and Speaker Pelosi take a swipe at free market medicine (http://redstate.com/stories/policy/president_bush_and_speaker_pelosi_take_a_swipe_at_ free_market_medicine)


Via Slashdot Science (so it's a week old), President Bush signed the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act into law on the 22nd. This bill would prevent the proper assessment of medical risk based on improving medical technology, increasing the costs of medical insurance for all Americans, which of course shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what insurance is.

To be fair, though, there was only one vote in the House against this bill, and none at all in the Senate, so this silliness extends beyond the Presidency and to our entire caucuses in the Congress.

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The 22nd did mark a new era of medical care; on that I agree. It marked the day Republicans rolled over without a fight on an attack straight at the heart of free market medicine. Our ability to pool risks and pay for medicine privately is endangered if insurance firms cannot account for risks properly by avoiding the sure losses of pre-existing conditions. So when this bill exacerbates the problem, and the push for socialized medicine continues, let's remember who to thank.

[dvdrink]

They're intellectual cowards.

[majinkoola]

Pretty soon there won't be anymore lone no votes.




He'll have some friends.

[pinkmandy]

They're intellectual cowards.

+ 1

[Crickett]

Pretty soon there won't be anymore lone no votes.




He'll have some friends.

From your mouth to God's ear...

[enjerth]

Mother Nature is the mother of discrimination. We should support legislation banning discrimination in nature.

[Conza88]

Man.. thats hilarious. They are pure scum.

[John E]

I haven't read the entirety of the bill but based this is something I would agree with. Ever see the movie Gattaca? Thats not something I'd like to see happen.

[SLSteven]

Pretty soon there won't be anymore lone no votes.




He'll have some friends.

Striving for more friends for Ron Paul!

[StateofTrance]

Please, no traffic to those noble laureates.

[Neil Stevens]

IT's funny, I mis-read the article at first, and read it as '4' votes. But when I corrected it, seeing it was just one vote, I laughed and thought "Oh, they're going to have fun with that." I didn't even look up who it was of course.

But in any case, I'm not *defending* his vote at all. I mean come on, did he even try to defeat this bill? Most people never even heard about GINA. Did he sound the alarm? Did he reach out to you guys to try to expose this bill, or go to the greater Republican community to try to drum up activist support to quash this socialist overreach?

No, he just chalked up another NO and moved on. He's part of the problem. He and the whole Republican caucus just played dead and let the Democrats do this.

So no, Ron Paul gets no more credit than anyone else on this bill, sorry.

[amy31416]

IT's funny, I mis-read the article at first, and read it as '4' votes. But when I corrected it, seeing it was just one vote, I laughed and thought "Oh, they're going to have fun with that." I didn't even look up who it was of course.

But in any case, I'm not *defending* his vote at all. I mean come on, did he even try to defeat this bill? Most people never even heard about GINA. Did he sound the alarm? Did he reach out to you guys to try to expose this bill, or go to the greater Republican community to try to drum up activist support to quash this socialist overreach?

No, he just chalked up another NO and moved on. He's part of the problem. He and the whole Republican caucus just played dead and let the Democrats do this.

So no, Ron Paul gets no more credit than anyone else on this bill, sorry.

So, name one person in Congress who did more than Ron Paul against this bill. The entire Republican base, aside from Paul, voted for it.

Why are you against Ron Paul?

[Neil Stevens]

So, name one person in Congress who did more than Ron Paul against this bill. The entire Republican base, aside from Paul, voted for it.

Why are you against Ron Paul?

Nobody did anything. There was a lack of leadership. That's reason number one to oppose Ron Paul: he's repeatedly shown himself unable to lead and accomplish anything to restore us to Constitutional government, to borrow a phrase I'm sure he's used many times. It takes more than vetoes to do that, if your vetoes just get overridden.

I have other reasons, but in respect for what this forum is, I'll just direct you to my posting history at Red State (http://www.ask.com/web?q=%22by+Neil+Stevens%22+%22Ron+Paul%22+site%3A www.redstate.com&o=0&l=dir&jss=0). I have many posts there critical of Ron Paul's Congressional track record, the company he keeps on the campaign trail, his rhetoric in the debates and out, his foreign and monetary policy platforms, as well as his reliability as a leader in the Republican party.

[amy31416]

Nobody did anything. There was a lack of leadership. That's reason number one to oppose Ron Paul: he's repeatedly shown himself unable to lead and accomplish anything to restore us to Constitutional government, to borrow a phrase I'm sure he's used many times. It takes more than vetoes to do that, if your vetoes just get overridden.

I have other reasons, but in respect for what this forum is, I'll just direct you to my posting history at Red State (http://www.ask.com/web?q=%22by+Neil+Stevens%22+%22Ron+Paul%22+site%3A www.redstate.com&o=0&l=dir&jss=0). I have many posts there critical of Ron Paul's Congressional track record, the company he keeps on the campaign trail, his rhetoric in the debates and out, his foreign and monetary policy platforms, as well as his reliability as a leader in the Republican party.

Nobody did more than Ron Paul, that's a fact. He's a reluctant leader and thus has faults in that arena. Name another living Republican with a better conservative record than Ron Paul.

I have no desire to go to a Red State forum, you guys are dead to me. RP's foreign and monetary policies are quite solid, and you know it, unless you're a neocon.

[Neil Stevens]

Ah yes, "Neocon." Yes, if you guys use the Marxist re-definition of Neocon to mean "opponent to the cause of International Socialism and its attempts to tie America down," then I'm proud to stand alongside Barry Goldwater as strong three-legged Republicans.

[angelatc]

I haven't read the entirety of the bill but based this is something I would agree with. Ever see the movie Gattaca? Thats not something I'd like to see happen.

Does the Constitution give Congress the authority to tell insurance companies how to run their businesses?

[angelatc]

But in any case, I'm not *defending* his vote at all. I mean come on, did he even try to defeat this bill? Most people never even heard about GINA. Did he sound the alarm? Did he reach out to you guys to try to expose this bill, or go to the greater Republican community to try to drum up activist support to quash this socialist overreach?
.

He didn't need to. We here on RPF already knew about it - search the archives and you;ll find several discussions on it.

Heck, several of us even wrote to our Congressional leaders to protest.

Too bad you Red Staters missed it, but pretty darned funny that somehow *that's* Ron Paul's fault , too.

[angelatc]

Ah yes, "Neocon." Yes, if you guys use the Marxist re-definition of Neocon to mean "opponent to the cause of International Socialism and its attempts to tie America down," then I'm proud to stand alongside Barry Goldwater as strong three-legged Republicans.

Too bad you don't fight socialism with the same vigor that you hate Islam.

[amy31416]

Ah yes, "Neocon." Yes, if you guys use the Marxist re-definition of Neocon to mean "opponent to the cause of International Socialism and its attempts to tie America down," then I'm proud to stand alongside Barry Goldwater as strong three-legged Republicans.

Neocons are hardly opponents of socialism.

Goldwater was not a neocon, however, the Kristol's are all yours.