View Full Version : H.R. 4684: Cancer and Terminal Illness Patient Health Care Act of 2007
Michael Landon
05-24-2008, 10:27 PM
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-4684
Please E-mail your Congressman/Congresswoman and ask them to co-sponsor this House Bill that was brought forth by Ron Paul:
H.R. 4684: Cancer and Terminal Illness Patient Health Care Act of 2007
Cancer and Terminal Illness Patient Health Care Act of 2007- Amends the Internal Revenue Code to waive the employee portion of the Social Security tax for any period in which a taxpayer has been certified by a physician as having cancer or a terminal illness or is the primary caregiver for a spouse, parent, or child with cancer or a terminal disease.
Reduces by 50 percent the rates of tax levied on a self-employed individual for old age, survivors and disability insurance and hospital insurance if a physician has certified that such individual has a terminal disease or cancer throughout the taxable year or is the primary caregiver for a spouse, parent, or child with a terminal disease or cancer.
You can find your Congressman/Congresswoman here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd
Here is the letter I wrote to my Congressman.
Dear Congressman Oberstar,
Once again I write to you hoping to get you to co-sponsor and support a House Resolution bill.
I would like to see you co-sponsor H.R. 4684: Cancer and Terminal Illness Patient Health Care Act of 2007.
This bill would amend the IRS code of 1986 and allow individuals who have been diagnosed with having a terminal illness such as cancer to waive their portion of Social Security taxes.
I, unfortunately, lost my father-in-law and uncle, both under the age of 50 to cancer. This is a terrible disease and any bill that would help ease the financial burdens of fighting it is a bill that should be supported at all costs. Many families go bankrupt trying to survive a terminal illness and a lot of them end up losing both their loved one and their life savings, their homes and more.
Please consider co-sponsoring this bill and help ease some of the financial burdens on the families fighting these diseases.
Thanks.
- ML
gerryb
05-24-2008, 10:46 PM
Just posted a bulletin to my friends, this should have broad appeal.
Thanks.
phixion
05-25-2008, 01:14 AM
Why should the tax of cancer patients specifically be waived or reduced?
Why should some diseases be favoured over others?
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
Why should cancer patients as a COLLECTIVE GROUP be treated any different? Cancer sucks and is a financial burden but so are many other diseases, some of which the suffering and financial burden is actually worse than cancer.
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
Pete
Tarzan
05-25-2008, 01:24 AM
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
I cannot speak to his motivation... but, he usually submits bills that would "legalize" the Constitution. I am guessing here... but, this could be an effort to begin chipping away at the federal income tax. If one group can be exempted they how about another, then another... until the entire country is exempted.
I do agree with you about the point of this type of bill. I would also go further and say this is more wastive legislation. We need to get guys in congress who have read, understand, agree with and will follow the constitution. Then bills like this become pointless.
And, congress could spend their time overturning unconstitutional laws (make that read ILLEGAL) and start cleaning up some of the mess that has been created over the past several decades.
Black Dude
05-25-2008, 01:51 AM
He does little tax cut stuff like this all the time (no taxes on tips)
Think of it as cutting taxes for needy people instead of giving welfare via taxpayer money to needy people.
freedom-maniac
05-25-2008, 06:09 AM
Bump.
MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
05-25-2008, 06:22 AM
Why should the tax of cancer patients specifically be waived or reduced?
Why should some diseases be favoured over others?
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
Why should cancer patients as a COLLECTIVE GROUP be treated any different? Cancer sucks and is a financial burden but so are many other diseases, some of which the suffering and financial burden is actually worse than cancer.
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
Pete
I'll take 'lower taxes for somone or anyone' over 'lower of taxes for no one.' Not to mention, for someone with a terminal illness (it includes cancer or terminal illness), this is a no brainer in many cases. Why should someone about to die be paying for social security?
Is it better to have some citizens tortured or all citizens tortured? Would it be hypocrisy for me to say "some?" IMO, less taxation is not a gift to ease a financial burden. You're playing their game if you believe that, as if the purchasing power belongs to the government initially. I think it's one less citizen being victimized.
Michael Landon
05-25-2008, 08:01 AM
Why should the tax of cancer patients specifically be waived or reduced?
Why should some diseases be favoured over others?
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
Why should cancer patients as a COLLECTIVE GROUP be treated any different? Cancer sucks and is a financial burden but so are many other diseases, some of which the suffering and financial burden is actually worse than cancer.
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
Pete
If you read the bill you'll notice that it states that it "amends the Internal Revenue Code to waive the employee portion of the Social Security tax for any period in which a taxpayer has been certified by a physician as having cancer or a terminal illness or is the primary caregiver for a spouse, parent, or child with cancer or a terminal disease."
Basically, it covers ALL terminal illnesses so cancer isn't being singled out.
I guess he would be hypocritical for putting forth the following bill also:
H.R. 1059: Teacher Tax Cut Act of 2007 - Amends the Internal Revenue Code to provide a tax credit of $3,000 for full-time elementary and secondary school teachers.
Why should this only apply to elementary and secondary school teachers and not ALL teachers, right?
I think he is trying to chip away at the tax burdens of citizens one group at a time.
- ML
Danke
05-25-2008, 08:11 AM
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
That is already the case for most of us. This only applies to Federally connected earnings. Mostly Government workers.
TruePatriot44
05-25-2008, 09:53 AM
I'm having difficulty picturing how this would be efficiently administered.
Michael Landon
05-25-2008, 11:30 AM
I'm having difficulty picturing how this would be efficiently administered.
Wouldn't it be as simple as having a form filled out by a Doctor and giving it to your employer to stop the withdrawal of Social Security? I'm sure you would have to give a copy of the same form to the Social Security Administration also. Seems simple enough.
- ML
Sally08
05-25-2008, 11:35 AM
Wouldn't it be as simple as having a form filled out by a Doctor and giving it to your employer to stop the withdrawal of Social Security? I'm sure you would have to give a copy of the same form to the Social Security Administration also. Seems simple enough.
- ML
At the train station, there was a man who would park in the handicapped spot (with a handicap sticker on his car) and then sprint to make the train.
Apparently, I was not the only one who reported him.
The city told me that he had the appropriate doctor work, so there was nothing that could be done.
My wish is that he or someone in his family didn't have an available handicap parking spot due to some other thoughtless person like him!
Michael Landon
05-25-2008, 12:32 PM
At the train station, there was a man who would park in the handicapped spot (with a handicap sticker on his car) and then sprint to make the train.
Apparently, I was not the only one who reported him.
The city told me that he had the appropriate doctor work, so there was nothing that could be done.
My wish is that he or someone in his family didn't have an available handicap parking spot due to some other thoughtless person like him!
I have also seen instances similar to that. Too bad morality isn't something everyone is just born with.
- ML
gerryb
05-25-2008, 12:41 PM
Any tax cut is a good tax cut. The goal is to have as many exemptions for the common person as possible.
Michael Landon
05-26-2008, 08:54 AM
Please print any replies you receive from your Representative. Thanks.
- ML
Soccrmastr
05-26-2008, 09:33 AM
Why should the tax of cancer patients specifically be waived or reduced?
Why should some diseases be favoured over others?
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
Why should cancer patients as a COLLECTIVE GROUP be treated any different? Cancer sucks and is a financial burden but so are many other diseases, some of which the suffering and financial burden is actually worse than cancer.
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
Pete
Hey dumbass read the bill lmao
Ozwest
05-26-2008, 09:42 AM
The sheer size of the population, and monies involved, is screwing America.
You need to get the power out of Washington, and bring it back home.
Fast.
Dave39168
05-26-2008, 04:46 PM
Phixion at first glance it may seem hypocritical. But he introduces many many bills to waive taxes for all sorts of people. Like the no taxes for tips. I think he had a bill to make all health care expenses tax deductable, and also one to allow Health Savings Accounts (non-taxable). To me I don't think its hypocritical. Its a known fact RP would end all taxes on income if he could. Since that's not gonna fly, I think this "chipping away" method is a good plan B. Check out some of his other legislation and I think you'd find that its not hypocrital, but part of a bigger picture of cutting taxes.
Michael Landon
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
Here's my Congressman's response:
Dear Mr. XXXXX:
Thank you very much for expressing your concerns about several important issues. I am pleased to hear from you and appreciate having the benefit of your views.
I noted your comments, and I commend you for your interest in these issues. I will not try to comment on each of them, but want to assure you that I have noted your views and will keep them in mind as debate on matters of concern to you continues during the 110th Congress.
With best wishes.
Sincerely,
James L. Oberstar, M.C.
Anyone else get any responses?
- ML
powerofreason
07-03-2008, 08:24 PM
Why should the tax of cancer patients specifically be waived or reduced?
Why should some diseases be favoured over others?
Should it not be as simple as this: If you aren't earning money, you don't pay tax.
Why should cancer patients as a COLLECTIVE GROUP be treated any different? Cancer sucks and is a financial burden but so are many other diseases, some of which the suffering and financial burden is actually worse than cancer.
I don't understand why Ron Paul put forth this bill. It seems well-intentioned but smacks of hypocrisy on the Dr's part.
Pete
Its a step in the right direction. Hopefully if this legislation passes it can be built upon.
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