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tangent4ronpaul
05-21-2008, 06:30 PM
This is a leaked document that proves fraud by the Hawaii GOP.

Please help get this document into EVERY media outlet in-box in the country, get it to your Meetup members and have them mail the media too.

Copies have been deposited here:

http://files.meetup.com/567112/GOP%20script.pdf

and should be publicly readable.

There is a long list of media contacts along with a few links to meta sources of media contacts. Send it to all of them!

http://operationcatherder.com/index.php/Old_Media

then start calling talk shows!

thanks,

-n

hillertexas
05-21-2008, 06:34 PM
wow

OptionsTrader
05-21-2008, 06:37 PM
Can the OP summarize in the first post (edit) why this is relevant? Posting a 19 page pdf and assuming people will read it is asking for too much if you really want people to read it and if this is really that important you need to understand human behavior and that people are not going to be tempted to spend the time necessary unless you give them a hook.

tangent4ronpaul
05-21-2008, 07:00 PM
page 2 points them at the important part starting on page 7.

but yeah, briefly

-n

ronpaulhawaii
05-21-2008, 07:08 PM
This thread has been added to the State Convention Documentation WIKI (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=138231)

Thanks

wgadget
05-21-2008, 09:12 PM
I hope you don't mind, I just posted this to the Craigslist Politics Forum:



Wanna have a GOP convention? Here's a script...


http://files.meetup.com/567112/GOP%20script.pdf

Next time you want to stage a work imitating "democracy," you can use this. You will have to come up with your own actors and costumes. To make it realistic, you could even use real elected delegates from around your state. Just keep the script a secret, okay? Wouldn't want to disappoint anyone....

torchbearer
05-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tomveil
05-21-2008, 10:48 PM
Can the OP summarize in the first post (edit) why this is relevant? Posting a 19 page pdf and assuming people will read it is asking for too much if you really want people to read it and if this is really that important you need to understand human behavior and that people are not going to be tempted to spend the time necessary unless you give them a hook.

It's the script that was followed at the Hawaii convention. Scary stuff.

suzypotaka
05-21-2008, 10:55 PM
mahalo catherder i KNEW you could help us!!

...now everyone else puleeeeze circulate this to the max!!! us acquiring the script is one thing...yet it needs to be blasted!!! there were some very sincere, true, long time conservatives at the convention that were livid w/what transpired...now if everyone knows the *choreography* that was utilized...it's a whole new story!!

for the person commenting on 17 pgs.....just understand the deep corruption everyone was put through that day...read the progression....+ it's a HUGE heads up for upcoming conventions!!!

revolutionary8
05-21-2008, 11:01 PM
:eek::eek::eek:

Oh my gosh. They are going to have to come up with a new script and very quick.

lmao.

I would suggest taking a copy, and having one brave soul in the gallows echo every word. They should start off speaking low, and then slowly raise their voice- for effect of course. :D

tomveil
05-21-2008, 11:13 PM
:eek::eek::eek:

Oh my gosh. They are going to have to come up with a new script and very quick.

lmao.

I would suggest taking a copy, and having one brave soul in the gallows echo every word. They should start off speaking low, and then slowly raise their voice- for effect of course. :D

Oh my. That would be AWESOME.

torchbearer
05-21-2008, 11:16 PM
Oh my. That would be AWESOME.

I keep picturing Bill O'reilly looking at the teleprompter screaming... "What does that mean... to play us out?"
Everything is scripted in this make-believe world.
Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

tomveil
05-21-2008, 11:17 PM
I keep picturing Bill O'reilly looking at the teleprompter screaming... "What does that mean... to play us out?"
Everything is scripted in this make-believe world.
Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

FUCK IT!

WE'LL DO IT LIVE!

FUCK IT!

hillertexas
05-22-2008, 07:57 AM
bump

ronpaulhawaii
05-22-2008, 08:41 AM
someone could do a youtube puppetshow ...

ronpaulhawaii
05-22-2008, 09:45 AM
From my inbox...



Regardless,
we didn't get any delegates for the bottom line: WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
NUMBERS! We could argue that we did previously, but folks decided to stand
down for whatever reasons. Was it scummy that they did what they did?
Yeah. Does it matter? NO! Because people backed out and we lost the
numbers.Did we get to see them enter numbers into the computer? NO!
Does it matter? NO! Why? Cause WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS! It sucks? Yes
it does. Watch RP's video when everyone decided to drop out. Watch it
again and listen to what he says about the 'hard core'. We needed
numbers, and folks chose to drop out prior to the convention. Do I
blame them? No, not really, maybe, but I remember a bunch of "I'm in
it til the end!". ReallY? Could have been helpful this past
weekend.In any case, what happened this weekend was a sham, but don't
be discouraged. If anything, it only makes the fight to change things
stronger. Put Up or SHUT UP!



agreed. The other thing we missed out on was catering to people who
were disinterested in McCain. I met a couple of former Romney supporters
that did not want to vote for McCain, but had no choice (because the GOP
couldn't get the final delegate list up on the screen and when they did it was
too small, and the McCain people had handed everyone who walked in the door a
McCain cheatsheet -- it was easier to just drop that in the ballot box.)
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, eh? I hope this doesn't kill the new surge in GOP
members; the party needs it.



There are about almost 200 members of the 'Ron Paul
Meet Up' group on Oahu. Does it make you wonder what
these posers are 'Thinking' when there to afraid to do
the work required of 'Real Americans'?

They must NOT know that: "If your Not a Part of the
Solution, Your a Part of the Problem".

Do you think there more concerned with what other
people may say about them if they dare speak 'Truth
To Power' and then do something about it?

Throughout the annals of History: Power holds no
respect for those who cower in silence, to afraid to
take fate into their own hands.
THE SHEEPLE ARE LED TO THEIR DEMISE.

It took Courage on your part to accept and respond to
what made sense to you by my perception of the
convention and it touched the core of what you know
deep down inside to be 'TRUE'.

You are not alone and thanks for being there, Outreach
will follow soon on details. Stay Tuned. IN LIBERTY

LONG LIVE
THE REPUBLIC




I understand what you're saying. But I'm not condemning or
belittling those who dropped out, just voicing my frustration at the fact
of the loss. Besides the Ron Paul Meetup group numbers, we all knew
other people who weren't on the meetup group that supported Paul.
Myself included, I had 17 other people not signed up that were
'interested' but in the end dropped out. (Of course, we're having
'discussion' now :) Our total numbers would have been much
bigger than 200+. I understand the passion, but I won't resort to
calling those who dropped out 'posers' simply due to loss of faith
(and that RP video didn't help either). If anything, let this be a
lesson not to be repeated. This whole process was quite a learning
experience for me (and ongoing) and I'm honored to know all those in the
meetup group regardless if they showed up or not (frustrated, but still
:). Onward, forward, if we even have that chance.
Peace

PS - Thanks to all those who put in blood sweat and tears on the Platform
Committee. Although it didn't work out, I appreciate the dedication
of those who were involved. From what I understand, it was a lot of
work and I thank you folks.



In any case, what it show us is that we need the positions of power inside the GOP. We have all learned much about the challenges of politics (we should have given everyone our list instead of keeping it secret). I hope that our faithful supporters remain interested in the movement. With strong leadership within our movement we can still have success with long term goals. Now that the goal of electing delegates for the National Convention is past and our Hawaii Republican 2006 Platform remains unchanged, it is time to move forward.

What is next on the agenda? Getting Daniel Brackins elected?

..."Who is going to be our next ruler? McCain or Obama or
Hillary. I just don't care." They are more alike than different.

dannno
05-22-2008, 10:10 AM
Fuckin thing SUCKS!

goldstandard
05-22-2008, 10:20 AM
Fuckin thing SUCKS!

...big time :mad:

wgadget
05-22-2008, 10:29 AM
Let's a few of us send this over to Drudge. I had sent him the "Jesus" quote by our GA State GOP leader and it actually got on his page.

Millions of people watch Drudge.

www.drudgereport.com

Fyretrohl
05-22-2008, 11:07 AM
First question...Can this be legally validated?

Second question...Can it be coroborated?

Third question...What was wrong on Page 7?

Now, not suggesting that having a script is wrong. Just looking for the specifics. Do we have any recordings that would suggest that this script was followed? How about non supporter coroboration?

goldstandard
05-22-2008, 11:42 AM
First question...Can this be legally validated?

Second question...Can it be coroborated?

Third question...What was wrong on Page 7?

Now, not suggesting that having a script is wrong. Just looking for the specifics. Do we have any recordings that would suggest that this script was followed? How about non supporter coroboration?

^^this

goldstandard
05-22-2008, 03:45 PM
bump