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The One
05-21-2008, 03:50 PM
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/The_View_talks_about_Prescott_Bush_0520.html

When host Whoopi Goldberg raised the issue of George W. Bush's comparing anyone who wants to talk to Iran or Syria with the appeasers of Nazi Germany on Monday's edition of ABC's The View, the panel erupted into furious debate.

Conservative Elizabeth Hasselbeck repeatedly attempted to question whether Bush's remarks were really aimed at Barack Obama. She insisted, "It's not always about him," and suggested Obama is being defensive because he knows his support for talks with Iran is a weak spot.

"I think the president was very clear in what he meant," Goldberg replied tartly.

"The Bush administration is out there talking to North Korea, talking to Syria," noted liberal Joy Behar. "Isn't that what diplomacy is about? This guy doesn't know the difference between the word 'diplomacy' and 'appeasement.' He's just stupid."

"One more point," continued Behar, pulling out a prepared statement. "It's very interesting and ironic that George Bush, Senior's -- er, George Bush, this one -- his grandfather -- this one -- the late -- I don't like to speak ill of the dead, but in this case it's fun -- he was a United States senator, Prescott Bush. Okay -- he was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany."

"This is his grandfather," Behar continued. "He has no business talking to Jewish people when he's got this right in his backyard."

"How come you can bring up this backyard but then it's not alright to dig into Obama's backyard and family history?" was all the flustered Hasselbeck could find to say.

RAW STORY's Larisa Alexandrovna also cited the Prescott Bush connection last week. In her blog, at-Largely, she wrote:

Dear Mr. Bush,

Your speech on the Knesset floor today was not only a disgrace; it was nothing short of treachery. Worse still, your exploitation of the Holocaust in a country carved out of the wounds of that very crime, in order to strike a low blow at American citizens whose politics differs from your own is unforgivable and unpardonable. ...

Well Mr. Bush, the only thing this comment lacked was a mirror and some historical facts. You want to discuss the crimes of Nazis against my family and millions of other families in Europe during World War II? Let me revive a favorite phrase of yours: Bring. It. On!

Your family's fortune is built on the bones of the very people butchered by the Nazis, my family and the families of those in the Knesset who applauded you today. ...

You family did not stop with supporting fascists and Nazis abroad, did they Mr. Bush? Surely you must know of your grandfather's role in the treasonous plot of 1933 to overthrow democracy in America? Let me remind you.

Grandpa Bush - that is to say, your grandfather - wanted fascism imported into the United States, or as you now call this type of transformation, "exporting democracy." Prescott went so far as to subsidize a coup attempt in order to achieve his dream of a fascist America.

AmericaFyeah92
05-21-2008, 04:18 PM
he may be a lot of bad things, but he isn't a Nazi

HOLLYWOOD
05-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Tell 'THE VIEW' tell us something everyone on this board and about 11 MILLION American's already know.

Better, email those 'Fem Nazis' and tell them to join this Forum. They'll get an education in AMERICA's REALITY and information, well ahead of the Masses and the Truth.

The One
05-21-2008, 06:04 PM
Tell 'THE VIEW' tell us something everyone on this board and about 11 MILLION American's already know.

Better, email those 'Fem Nazis' and tell them to join this Forum. They'll get an education in AMERICA's REALITY and information, well ahead of the Masses and the Truth.


11 million.....that's about 3% of the American people.

sratiug
05-21-2008, 06:54 PM
he may be a lot of bad things, but he isn't a Nazi

How many people must you kill to be a good Nazi? You seem to set the bar awfully high.

AmericaFyeah92
05-21-2008, 08:12 PM
How many people must you kill to be a good Nazi? You seem to set the bar awfully high.

KILLING PEOPLE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A NAZI.

Ghengis Khan, Jeffrey Dhamer, and Mao Zedong killed plenty of people, so i guess they would all be Nazis under your defenition.

When you apply the term so broadly, it loses all its meaning.

torchbearer
05-21-2008, 08:16 PM
KILLING PEOPLE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A NAZI.

Ghengis Khan, Jeffrey Dhamer, and Mao Zedong killed plenty of people, so i guess they would all be Nazis under your defenition.

When you apply the term so broadly, it loses all its meaning.

Patriot Act = Enabling Act
Homeland Security = Fatherland Security
Pre-emptive war = Pre-emptive war
Seems to fit the pattern.

IRO-bot
05-22-2008, 08:30 AM
Patriot Act = Enabling Act
Homeland Security = Fatherland Security
Pre-emptive war = Pre-emptive war
Seems to fit the pattern.

Woop Woop.

The Ministry of Truth hath spoken!


Wake up!

Aratus
05-22-2008, 08:32 AM
sadly enough, although prescott bush was one of FDR's advisors and although smedley butler
may NOT have namedropped him earlier, like the Dulles brothers he did have investments in
companies that still did business with the Third Reich. what is lingering around G.W.B is akin
to the stories about "pappa" joe kennedy that sprang up when JFK ran... its whispered about.

acptulsa
05-22-2008, 08:53 AM
what is lingering around G.W.B is akin
to the stories about "pappa" joe kennedy that sprang up when JFK ran... its whispered about.

The difference, of course, being that Joseph Kennedy said to hell with the oppression that was prohibition and brought Americans drink, which most Americans consider sufficiently harmless and actually had reason to appreciate. The same cannot be said of Prescott Bush's merciless profiteering on slaughter.

sophocles07
05-22-2008, 09:55 AM
I fucking Hate Elizabeth Hasselback.


he may be a lot of bad things, but he isn't a Nazi

Ok, he's a mass murderer without that specific ideology.

Who the fuck cares?

The One
05-22-2008, 11:13 AM
I fucking Hate Elizabeth Hasselback.



Ok, he's a mass murderer without that specific ideology.

Who the fuck cares?


I hate Elizabeth Hasselback, too, but I'd still hit it.:D

bucfish
05-22-2008, 11:53 AM
Elizabeth is a brainwashed sheeple! She thinks she is smart thinks she is a God Fearing person. Obviously she is neither smart enough to think for herself nor smart enough to understand the word of God found in the Bible.

The One
05-22-2008, 11:57 AM
Elizabeth is a brainwashed sheeple! She thinks she is smart thinks she is a God Fearing person. Obviously she is neither smart enough to think for herself nor smart enough to understand the word of God found in the Bible.

QFT......but I'd still hit it.:D

sophocles07
05-22-2008, 11:59 AM
I hate Elizabeth Hasselback, too, but I'd still hit it.

She'd have to sign a legal document promising to abstain from talking (except for moans, perhaps) for the duration.

constituent
05-22-2008, 12:13 PM
She'd have to sign a legal document promising to abstain from talking (except for moans, perhaps) for the duration.

"you really should get the ribbed kind next time... and no, double-bagging doesn't work, truuuuuust me, ok?"

AmericaFyeah92
05-22-2008, 03:33 PM
I fucking Hate Elizabeth Hasselback.



Ok, he's a mass murderer without that specific ideology.

Who the fuck cares?


then call him that, to apply the Nazi term so broadly disrespects the victims of the real Nazis

sophocles07
05-22-2008, 03:34 PM
then call him that, to apply the Nazi term so broadly disrespects the victims of the real Nazis


In what way? I'd say it's inaccurate language, but not "disrespectful" to the victims.

torchbearer
05-22-2008, 05:09 PM
Patriot Act = Enabling Act
Homeland Security = Fatherland Security
Pre-emptive war = Pre-emptive war
Seems to fit the pattern.

Why did people follow hitler into aggressive wars?
We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.

AmericaFyeah92
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Why did people follow hitler into aggressive wars?
We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.

that's not true. They followed him initially because he was reclaiming "German" territory like Austria, Poland, etc.

revolutionary8
05-22-2008, 11:04 PM
then call him that, to apply the Nazi term so broadly disrespects the victims of the real Nazis

Oh please. This is old news. Bush is/was a Nazi family.

Bush - Nazi Link Confirmed


by John Buchanan, The New Hampshire Gazette, October 10, 2003


WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.

The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury and FBI, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.

Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial baron for nearly eight months after the U.S. entered the war.

No Story?
For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath.

The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.

The Summer of '42
The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran in the New York Herald-Tribune on July 30, 1942. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months.

"Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess.

The Herald-Tribune also cited unnamed sources who suggested Thyssen's U.S. "nest egg" in fact belonged to "Nazi bigwigs" including Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, or even Hitler himself.

Business is Business
The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury and war bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director.

The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.

After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the U.S.

Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S. entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it.

UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.

The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included partnership with another German titan who supported Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his role in using slave labor and his own steel, coal and arms resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to seven years in prison.

The Family Business
In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC.

However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client.

Seized
On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley.

In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC, Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261) and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp (Vesting Order No. 259). In November, Congress seized the Nazi interests in Silesian-American Corporation, which allegedly profited from slave labor at Auschwitz via a partnership with I.G. Farben, Hitler's third major industrial patron and partner in the infrastructure of the Third Reich.

The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury and war bonds, to their foreign clients overseas as Hitler geared up for his 1939 invasion of Poland, the event that sparked World War II.

That's One Way to Put It
Following the Congressional seizures of UBC and the other four Bush-Harriman-Thyssen enterprises, The New York Times reported on December 16, 1944, in a brief story on page 25, that UBC had "received authority to change its principal place of business to 120 Broadway." The Times story did not report that UBC had been seized by the U.S. government or that the new address was the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian. The story also neglected to mention that the other UBC-related businesses had also been seized by Congress.

Still No Story?
Since then, the information has not appeared in any U.S. news coverage of any Bush political campaign, nor has it been included in any of the major Bush family biographies. It was, however, covered extensively in George H.W. Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Chaitkin's father served as an attorney in the 1940s for some of the victims of the Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

The book gave a detailed, accurate accounting of the Bush family's long Nazi affiliation, but no mainstream U.S. media entity reported on or even investigated the allegations, despite careful documentation by the authors. Major booksellers declined to distribute the book, which was dismissed by Bush supporters as biased and untrue. Its authors struggled even to be reviewed in reputable newspapers. That the book was published by a Lyndon LaRouche's organization undoubtedly made it easier to dismiss, but does not change the facts.

The essence of the story been posted for years on various Internet sites, including BuzzFlash.com and TakeBackTheMedia.com, but no online media seem to have independently confirmed it.

Likewise, the mainstream media have apparently made no attempt since World War II to either verify or disprove the allegations of Nazi collaboration against the Bush family. Instead, they have attempted to dismiss or discredit such Internet sites or "unauthorized" books without any journalistic inquiry or research into their veracity.

Loyal Defenders
The National Review ran an essay on September 1 by their White House correspondent Byron York, entitled "Annals of Bush-Hating." It begins mockingly: "Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, of the entire Bush family? Are you aware of the president's Nazi sympathies? His crimes against humanity? And do you know, by the way, that George W. Bush is a certifiable moron?" York goes on to discredit the "Bush is a moron" IQ hoax, but fails to disprove the Nazi connection.

The more liberal Boston Globe ran a column September 29 by Reason magazine's Cathy Young in which she referred to "Bush-o-phobes on the Internet" who "repeat preposterous claims about the Bush family's alleged Nazi connections."

Poles Tackle the Topic
Newsweek Polska, the magazine's Polish edition, published a short piece on the "Bush Nazi past" in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that "the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp," according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

Still Not Interested
Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.

Aftermath
After the seizures of the various businesses they oversaw with Cornelis Lievense and his German partners, the U.S. government quietly settled with Bush, Harriman and others after the war. Bush and Harriman each received $1.5 million in cash as compensation for their seized business assets.

In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. There is no record of any U.S. press coverage of the Bush-Nazi connection during any political campaigns conducted by George Herbert Walker Bush, Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, with the exception of a brief mention in an unrelated story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune in November 2000 and a brief but inaccurate account in The Boston Globe in 2001.
John Buchanan is a journalist and investigative reporter with 33 years of experience in New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Miami. His work has appeared in more than 50 newspapers, magazines and books. He can be reached by e-mail at: jtwg@bellsouth.net.

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