Nader + Paul support at 9%?

[AJ Antimony]

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=47554&cat=5

USAElectionPolls.com is apparently a new polling site. They recently polled California regarding a possible general election containing Obama, McCain, Nader, and Paul.

Other poll sites only use Obama and McCain, whereas this one decided to include more than two names. The results?

Nader and Paul combine to take 9% of the vote.

They say that once the Libertarians nominate a candidate, his name will replace Paul's in the poll.

Not too bad a number. That would probably get a lot higher if Paul actually went Independent.

[Jeremy]

It would make sense that the LP candidate would replace Paul's... in fact Barr is getting about 6% in polls already. However... what about Chuck Baldwin? Our vote will be divided.

[Bradley in DC]

USAElectionPolls.com is apparently a new polling site.

Um, no, I've been posting links to it from the beginning here--with a very mixed reaction. :cool:

[AJ Antimony]

Um, no, I've been posting links to it from the beginning here--with a very mixed reaction. :cool:

From the link..
"USAElectionPolls.com has thrown its hat into the ring with respect to polling and is releasing their first ever results, first up: California."

:confused:

[hillbilly123069]

It's all being manipulated. We covered this.Youtube,digg,yahoo,google,election fraud? You could be reading the comic books for the level of reality being reported by american media.Secret Societies have taken over Our government.
The BUSH family Tree... Generations of Skull and Bones Members YALE University

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Skull and Bones Society Members Well, Well, the Apple doesn't fall far from the Bush Tree!

James Smith Bush (June 15, 1825 – November 11, 1889) He was the father of business magnate Samuel Prescott Bush, grandfather of US Senator Prescott Bush, great-grandfather of former US President George H. W. Bush and great-great-grandfather of current US President George W. "Dubya" Bush. also a member of the Elite Secret Scroll & Key Society.

Prescott Sheldon Bush was born May 15, 1895, in Columbus Ohio, Died October 8, 1972 was on the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency, the Senate Committee on Public Works, the Committee on Armed Services, a congressional Joint Economic Committee, assisted in funding the German NAZI party during late 1920- early 1930's

George Herbert Walker Bush (born June 12, 1924), 41st President, Gulf War 1991, known for his push for NWO (New World Order)

Jonathan J. Bush (Jonathan James Bush) (1931- ) is an uncle to President George Dubya Walker Bush "Banking and Finance Scams"

George Walker "Dubya" Bush (born July 6, 1946) is the 43rd and current President; ChickenHawk - Draft dodged Active military duty and the Vietnam War, DUI, WMDs - Weapons of Mass Destruction, (known for his violations and comment pertaining to the United States Constitution) "The Constitution is Just a G*d Damn piece of paper!"

Skull & Bones Secret Society was founded at Yale College in New Haven, Connecticut in 1832. It is the oldest and most prestigious of Yale's seven secret societies. Among the others are: Scroll & Key, Book & Snake, Wolf's Head, Elihu, and Berzelius. These fraternities serve as recruiting grounds for young people destined for careers in government, law, finance and other influential sectors of American life. Skull & Bones is the elite of the elite among these societies. Only Scroll & Key can claim a near equal status.

Since its founding, Skull & Bones has inducted about 2,500 members. At any given time, about 600 or so members of the Order are alive. The society was exclusively male until the 1990s, when the society voted to admit women.


History Wolf's Head Secret Society not nearly as "Far Out There as the Skull and Bones Societies"

The Class of 1884 agreed to support the revolt against the society system with a vote of no confidence to coincide with its commencement. It had been understood the society system was beyond reform and might well be abolished. However, over 300 alumni and fifteen members of the senior class incorporated a society in 1883. Those undergraduates were the society's initial delegation, and had met as such during their senior year. An appropriate meeting hall had been erected by 1884. The Third Society was accepted immediately among Yale undergraduates and alumni, and managed its affairs similarly to the extant groups. Members were known as Grey Friars.

The New Haven Register reported in 1886: "Wolf's Head is not as far out of the world, in respect to its public doings, as are the other two secret societies [Skull & Bones and Scroll & Keys]. There is a sufficient veil of secrecy drawn around its mechanism, however, to class it with secret societies, and this gives it a stability and respectability in Yale College circles that it might not have otherwise." The incorporation continued successfully the tradition of founding a society if enough potential members thought they had been overlooked by the extant groups. Bones was organized after a dispute over elections to Phi Beta Kappa; likewise, Keys was organized after a dispute over elections to Bones. The Third Society sat at the apex of a social pyramid with freshmen, sophomore and junior societies as well as student-run organizations, clubs and fraternities as brick.

The society changed its name to Wolf's Head Society in 1888 after undergraduates noted approvingly the design, by Tiffany & Co., of the society's pin, a stylized wolf's head on an inverted ankh, an Egyptian hieroglyphic known as the Egyptian Cross or "the key of life". Life is symbolized rather than death or erudition; by contrast, members of Bones and Keys wore their pins face down on cravat or lapel.

The tone set by the Grey Friars, as had been written about the music of Charles Ives, "had a wicked sense of humor and delibrately set out to deflate every kind of pomposity". Grey Friars mocked as "poppycock" the seemingly Masonic-inspired rituals of Bones and Keys. Before the turn of the nineteenth century, for example, a theater troupe visited New Haven to perform The Pirates of Penzance. When members learned the pirate king wore a hat bearing a skull and crossbones, a visit was made to the actor to suggest he display the numbers 322 below the skull and crossbones. When the character appeared on stage with the altered hat, several students vacated the theatre to the howling delight of the remaining audience. Stephen Benet mocked playfully the aspiration to join a society: "Do you want to be successful?/ Form a club!/ Are your chances quite distressful?/ Form a club!/ Never mind the common friendships/ That no politician has!/ Seek the really righteous rounders/ and the athletes of the class!/ And you'll get your heart's desiring-/ and the rest will get the raz!"

However, the society maintained many traditions, including the code of secrecy. Paul Moore recounted the night before he first saw battle in World War II: "I spent the evening on board ship being quizzed by...about what went on in Wolf's Head. He could not believe I would hold back such irrelevant secrets the night before I faced possible death."

The exchange of personal histories highlights the undergraduate body's regimen. Meetings are held Thursday and Sunday nights. The next delegation is tapped after a review of each member of the current academic year's junior class. Women have been tapped since 1992. The society's endowment is comparable with its older rivals. The alumni association, named in honor of Edward Phelps, reunions throughout the year.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

It would make sense that the LP candidate would replace Paul's... in fact Barr is getting about 6% in polls already. However... what about Chuck Baldwin? Our vote will be divided.

Unfortunately, yes. That's why I wanted them to spoil themselves and nominate Keyes.

[Jeremy]

Unfortunately, yes. That's why I wanted them to spoil themselves and nominate Keyes.

I wish the parties would work together and have Baldwin run as the VP or something... this just doesn't seem possible. Baldwin likes his VP person and I doubt he ever even considered "working together" with the LP... same with the Libertarian Party... I'm sure they don't care about the CP's nominee.