Constitution Republicans

[raystone]

As one of the organizers in my local Ron Paul meetup, like dozens of other Ron Paul meetups in our state and nationwide, we are in the middle of changing the name of our group.

(Would love to keep Ron Paul name, however, it seems we've attracted everyone we are going to with the name, and we want to continue growing)

Most of us are members of our local GOP, and we are having good success in influencing it towards Ron Paul philosophies.

We are looking at John Birch, Freedom Force, XXX County Caucus, Are You a Patriot ?, everything..


One name suggestion I haven't seen yet is "Constitution Republicans"


Of course, it brings home we that we believe the Constitution is the law of the land, and our elected officials should treat as such.

Some may confuse it with Constitution Party, but with next word after Constitution is Republicans, so it shouldn't be overly confusing, plus there are dozens other groups with the name Constitution in their name.


And, as you probably realize, an equally important outcome of this name is the reframing or repositioning of the generic Republican Party as non-constitution or anti-constitution Republicans.

This name may attract all the real republicans, indies, moderates that have yet to get on board with Ron Paul. And it is something we can stick with despite election results and particular candidates.

Thoughts ??

[Kotin]

the Austin Ron Paul Meetup is now the Austin Revolution Meetup.

[RPTXState]

Constitutional Conservative
Constitutional Republican
Goldwater Conservative
Goldwater Republican


Find someone poeple will easily understand and run with it!

[tekkierich]

We have used the term "Liberty Republicans"

www.libertymaryland.com

[Minestra di pomodoro]

The terms "liberty" and "freedom" are used so often for things that have nothing to do with freedom or liberty that they've lost their meaning.

[jarofclay]

Repaulicans

[kombayn]

I like Constitutional Conservatives that way you can allow people from 3rd parties into your wing.

[Mark]

As one of the organizers in my local Ron Paul meetup, like dozens of other Ron Paul meetups in our state and nationwide, we are in the middle of changing the name of our group.

(Would love to keep Ron Paul name, however, it seems we've attracted everyone we are going to with the name, and we want to continue growing)

Most of us are members of our local GOP, and we are having good success in influencing it towards Ron Paul philosophies.

We are looking at John Birch, Freedom Force, XXX County Caucus, Are You a Patriot ?, everything..


One name suggestion I haven't seen yet is "Constitution Republicans"


Of course, it brings home we that we believe the Constitution is the law of the land, and our elected officials should treat as such.

Some may confuse it with Constitution Party, but with next word after Constitution is Republicans, so it shouldn't be overly confusing, plus there are dozens other groups with the name Constitution in their name.


And, as you probably realize, an equally important outcome of this name is the reframing or repositioning of the generic Republican Party as non-constitution or anti-constitution Republicans.

This name may attract all the real republicans, indies, moderates that have yet to get on board with Ron Paul. And it is something we can stick with despite election results and particular candidates.

Thoughts ??


You might want to consider joining the "Republican Liberty Caucus", I believe Ron Paul used to be Chairman or something:

http://www.rlc.org/



There are many meetups affiliated with them:

http://rlc.meetup.com/



We have one here in the Triangle area of North Carolina:

http://rlc.meetup.com/92/


"Triangle-Area [NC] Republican Liberty Caucus

Meet other local supporters of the Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC), a political group of liberty-minded individuals within the GOP
advocating less intrusive government, free enterprise, and personal liberty. "That Government is Best Which Governs Least"."

See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RLCNC/ for the e-group of the RLC's affiliated state-level organization."

[mdh]

Classical conservatives.

[Mark]

The terms "liberty" and "freedom" are used so often for things that have nothing to do with freedom or liberty that they've lost their meaning.

We're working to correct that.

[LibertyEagle]

We're working to correct that.

heh. That's right, Mark. :)

Nice to see ya, by the way.

[NH4RonPaul]

The Republican Liberty Caucus was FOUNDED by Ron Paul and they are your best bet for non-RINO, non-globalist, REAL Republicans who are active.

In NH they are our BEST Republican group.

PS - Keep REVOLUTION icons in keeping with the founding fathers (they are the revolutionaries we wish to emulate) and keep away from icons like raised red fists and things that mislead people into branding Ron Paul a "Marxist"....

I am continually appalled at some supporters and their ideas about what RP stands for and the symbols they bring with them.

[rancher89]

I agree w/ the RLC, and I keep track of the RLC and hope to be a big part of the neew RLC chapter in Charlotte (soon to be formed...) but I named our new group the political discussion group, it is open for negotiation. I formed it since the original group didn't seem to be evolving and on the spur of the moment (w/the banning from the group of a long time serious supporter of RP) I had to come up with something. I wanted it to be open to all -- so far so good.

[raystone]

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[Maltheus]

Yeah, I simply won't do the least of two evils thing. Ron Paul has endorsed our local Congressman, Doug Lamborn, and I know a lot of fellow meetup members are now working to help him. But he's a supporter of the war on terror, and while he doesn't have to be ideologically pure for me to support, the war on terror is a pretty freakin' big issue. I believe our economy is tanking over it (among other things) so I can not support the man, even with Paul's endorsement. I may stay on board and work to infiltrate the party, but I doubt I'll be voting for anyone in the party anytime soon.

[grandOPUS]

I don't know if you've ever seen the incredibly appropriate movie, Meet John Doe, by Frank Capra, in which the American people would gather into meetup groups called John Doe Clubs. They were groups of people who were against government getting involved in helping the little guy, which was a local responsibility of neighbor helping neighbor.

I think that it demonstrates the importance of removing the barriers that "Republican" and "Democrat" conjure up in people's minds. Using the name Constitution Republicans would necessitate that Democrats cross the aisle first before embracing the common denominator. However, Democrats and Republicans can be more readily persuaded on the importance of the Constitution as preeminent in federal matters.

Ok, so maybe The John Doe Party might not catch on. But surely there is some name that could draw folks together under the common pursuit of the REAL issue, which is to adhere to the limits of the Constitution, and promote States rights. Some name that is as American as baseball and apple pie, promotes self-reliance with neighbor helping neighbor, and that tells the government to leave us alone to be responsible citizens.

[literatim]

Constitutionalist Republicans

[asheville4paul]

I love the name "constitution republicans"

[grandOPUS]

Has anyone considered developing a Confederation of Constitutional Parties that temporarily consolidates the Constitution, Libertarian and other parties (putting aside certain differences) for the single agreed goal of unseating the current Republicrat system?

[1000-points-of-fright]

I love the name "constitution republicans"

Grammatically incorrect. It should be Constitutional Republicans. But when you really think about it, all parties should be based on Constitutional principles.

Since Jesus has already laid claim to the name Constitution Party, I prefer simply... Constitutionalists. That way it doesn't matter which ever way someone leans politically, you know that they will always work within the confines of the Constitution.

Then there's this guy... http://home.earthlink.net/~jmarkels/cp.html

[LittleLightShining]

I think that it demonstrates the importance of removing the barriers that "Republican" and "Democrat" conjure up in people's minds. Using the name Constitution Republicans would necessitate that Democrats cross the aisle first before embracing the common denominator. However, Democrats and Republicans can be more readily persuaded on the importance of the Constitution as preeminent in federal matters.

Great point. Especially when you consider that the far left and the far right have so much more in common when it comes to liberty than the socialist liberals and their mirror reflection-- neo-cons.

However, this idea implies that a complete break must be made from the Republican (and Democratic) parties. If this is the case, is it wise to propose a brand new 3rd party from amongst the many that already exist? I think the intent of the OP is to revitalize the conservative, Constitutionalist arm of the Republican party.

For now I'm committed to reforming the Republican party, but if a third party is indeed where some believe we should go, I like the American Patriot Party (http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/).

From the platform discussion on their awesome (but kind of ugly) website:


--------------------- 1856 Democratic Republicans Whig Party Platform --------

1. That the Federal Government is one of limited power, derived solely from the Constitution and the grants of power made therein ought to be strictly construed by all the departments and agents of the government and that it is inexpedient and dangerous to exercise doubtful constitutional powers.

2. That the Constitution does not confer upon the General Government the power to commence and carry on a general system of internal improvements. (ie. all "Administrative" so called law and powers should be abolished and restricted)

3. That the Constitution does not confer authority upon the Federal Government, directly or indirectly, to assume the debts of the several States, contracted for local and internal improvements, or other State purposes nor would such assumption be just or expedient. (ie. all "Administrative" so called law and powers should be abolished and restricted)



------------------- 1856 "Democratic Republican" Party Platform ------

" 7. That Congress has "no" power to charter a national bank that we believe such an institution one of deadly hostility to the best interests of the country, dangerous to our republican institutions and the liberties of the people, and calculated to place the business of the country within the control of a concentrated money power, and above the laws and the will of the people and that the results of the Democratic legislation in this and all other financial measures upon which issues have been made between the two political parties of the country, have demonstrated to candid and practical men of all parties, their soundness, safety, and utility, in all business pursuits.

8. That the separation of the moneys of the Government from banking institutions is indispensable for the safety of the funds of the Government and the rights of the people.

9. That we are decidedly opposed to taking from the President the qualified veto power, by which he is enabled, under restrictions and responsibilities amply sufficient to guard the public interests, to suspend the passage of a bill whose merits cannot secure the approval of two-thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, until the judgment of the people can be obtained thereon, and which has saved the American people from the corrupt and tyrannical domination of the Bank of the United States and from a corrupting system of general internal improvements (ie. all "Administrative" so called law and powers should be abolished and restricted).

10. That the liberal principles embodied by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, and sanctioned by the Constitution, which makes ours the land of liberty and the asylum of the oppressed of every nation, have ever been cardinal principles in the Democratic faith, and every attempt to abridge the privilege of becoming citizens and the owners of soil among us, ought to be resisted with the same spirit which swept the alien and sedition laws from our statute books.

And Whereas, Since the foregoing declaration was uniformly adopted by our predecessors in National Conventions, an adverse political and religious test has been secretly organized by a party claiming to be exclusively American, it is proper that the American Democracy should clearly define its relation thereto, and declare its determined opposition to all secret political societies, by whatever name they may be called."
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I think the only thing I really don't agree with is their push for Instant Runoff Voting. In some ways I like the idea, but it also seems to violate the "one man, one vote" tradition. Anyway... sorry to sidetrack.