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RCA
05-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Too bad they are out of stock:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8808671

:rolleyes:

torchbearer
05-18-2008, 03:16 PM
out of stock.

LibertyEagle
05-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Well, at least they're listing it. That's the first step. I'm pretty happy about that right now. :) I surely hope the publisher is in fact printing day and night.

Feelgood
05-18-2008, 06:23 PM
I wonder if it is yet in its second or third printing?

Kludge
05-18-2008, 06:28 PM
I wonder if it is yet in its second or third printing?

We've been told they're going in to their EIGHTH printing soon.

forsmant
05-18-2008, 08:00 PM
I thought Wal Mart was a greedy corporation?

Zera
05-18-2008, 08:04 PM
I hope they have a copy the next time I need food. Seriously, whenever I go to a super market or a book store, they don't have the book... And I want to buy a copy :(

Kludge
05-18-2008, 08:05 PM
I thought Wal Mart was a greedy corporation?

Wal-Mart is probably the most efficient retailer on Earth, and operates in an exceptionally intelligent manner by using the "pull system" to sell by demand and using their immense power to force competition among manufacturers.

Dorfsmith
05-18-2008, 08:09 PM
Wal-Mart is probably the most efficient retailer on Earth, and operates in an exceptionally intelligent manner by using the "pull system" to sell by demand and using their immense power to force competition among manufacturers.

I bought a nice shotgun at wal mart this weekend :cool:

Anti Federalist
05-18-2008, 08:12 PM
I won't spend a dollar in a Wal-Marx.

Their ongoing "downsizing" of firearms sales is one reason. (Dorf notwithstanding. You do know you were put into a video database?)

Another is that they are becoming the modern day equivalent of the company store.

Third is, on many items they are no bargain, unless new to an area in which case they lower prices to below cost and shut down every local retailer, then jack up the price later.

Fourth, they have forced suppliers to "outsource" their manufacturing, even when the manufacturer was able to come in at the cost agreed to.

Kludge
05-18-2008, 08:16 PM
Fourth, they have forced suppliers to "outsource" their manufacturing, even when the manufacturer was able to come in at the cost agreed to.

How do they force manufacturers to "outsource"?

Wal-Mart has "auctions" for manufacturers to sell products. They bring in a few manufacturers and tell them to bid lowest for cost-to-make. The winner gets to sell their products at Wal-Mart.

forsmant
05-18-2008, 08:17 PM
My fault, I did not want to start the Wal Mart debate again.

Kludge
05-18-2008, 08:20 PM
My fault, I did not want to start the Wal Mart debate again.

I did... :) I just wish we could see them in action once we move to a free market.

Dorfsmith
05-18-2008, 08:29 PM
I won't spend a dollar in a Wal-Marx.

Their ongoing "downsizing" of firearms sales is one reason. (Dorf notwithstanding. You do know you were put into a video database?)

Another is that they are becoming the modern day equivalent of the company store.

Third is, on many items they are no bargain, unless new to an area in which case they lower prices to below cost and shut down every local retailer, then jack up the price later.

Fourth, they have forced suppliers to "outsource" their manufacturing, even when the manufacturer was able to come in at the cost agreed to.

Yep, they did mention that.

Anti Federalist
05-18-2008, 09:02 PM
How do they force manufacturers to "outsource"?

Wal-Mart has "auctions" for manufacturers to sell products. They bring in a few manufacturers and tell them to bid lowest for cost-to-make. The winner gets to sell their products at Wal-Mart.

Youtube or google Rubbermaid - WalMart - Frontline.

Bottom line is, and this was just one company, WalMarx told Rubbermaid that, if they wished to keep the wholesale contract with them, they would require that Rubbermaid move their manufacturing overseas, even though RM brought the product to the wholesale market at the cost agreed upon.

Of course, with products like RM's, you can't afford to lose the company store contract.

Mahkato
05-18-2008, 09:06 PM
It was in stock for a short time a few days ago. I'm tracking it in this stickied thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=137141).

Kludge
05-18-2008, 09:09 PM
Youtube or google Rubbermaid - WalMart - Frontline.

Bottom line is, and this was just one company, WalMarx told Rubbermaid that, if they wished to keep the wholesale contract with them, they would require that Rubbermaid move their manufacturing overseas, even though RM brought the product to the wholesale market at the cost agreed upon.

Of course, with products like RM's, you can't afford to lose the company store contract.

The agreed upon cost was only until the contract was terminated by either party. Wal-Mart wanted cheaper prices and Rubbermaid couldn't provide that in the United States because congress has ridiculous laws saying that every man's labor is worth at least a specified amount.

It's government's fault. It ALWAYS is.

A Ron Paul Rebel
05-18-2008, 10:19 PM
out of stock in Hudson, N.H.

christagious
05-18-2008, 10:24 PM
The agreed upon cost was only until the contract was terminated by either party. Wal-Mart wanted cheaper prices and Rubbermaid couldn't provide that in the United States because congress has ridiculous laws saying that every man's labor is worth at least a specified amount.

It's government's fault. It ALWAYS is.

Well I don't think many people would be willing to work in a rubbermaid factory for much less than 8 or 9 dollars an hour, at least. You can't pay McWages at a plastic factory, it's absolutely insane with the quotas you need to meet. I know this because I know A LOT of people who work at Sterilite.

christagious
05-18-2008, 10:26 PM
I did... :) I just wish we could see them in action once we move to a free market.

QFT, what makes me wonder about how good free markets are is when I think about Wal-Mart. I can only imagine that Wal-Mart would love less government regulation and interference.
Can somebody help me out with this? Wal-Mart and free markets, how would this be helpful? I have to admit, I'm kinda biased towards walmart since they drive so many mom and pop businesses out of business.

A Ron Paul Rebel
05-18-2008, 11:01 PM
QFT, what makes me wonder about how good free markets are is when I think about Wal-Mart. I can only imagine that Wal-Mart would love less government regulation and interference.
Can somebody help me out with this? Wal-Mart and free markets, how would this be helpful? I have to admit, I'm kinda biased towards walmart since they drive so many mom and pop businesses out of business.

In a freer market, those small mom and pops store could better
and easier co-op with each other to get better prices by buying
bulk. They could build better business without taxes and without
the redtape of regulations.

Without the FTC (Federal Trade Commissions) they could offer
special discounts and create creative offers which are currently
illegal.

In a freer market, new co-op business would spring up that
have a purchasing power greater than Wal-Mart
thus those mom and pops could actually sell for less than Wal-Mart
does.

And you think, "Well, what happens when that business gets too
big where it starts creating a monopoly and raising it's prices?"

Again, a new co-op would emerge (or several would already exist)
to where no business would 'control the market' thus driving and
keeping prices down.

Hope this helps,

Hunter

p.s. There's also the quality factor... Wal-Mart shoes SUCK!!! They
are plastic and cheaply made. The only time I buy shoes at Wal-Mart
is when I want a crappy pair of work shows that I can also go fishing
with!

RSLudlum
05-18-2008, 11:05 PM
The only time I buy shoes at Wal-Mart
is when I want a crappy pair of work shows that I can also go fishing
with!


Same here!!!

A Ron Paul Rebel
05-18-2008, 11:07 PM
I have to admit, I'm kinda biased towards walmart since they drive so many mom and pop businesses out of business.

I think you mean you are biased against Wal-Mart.

That's another key factor in a free market... Shit on the little guy,
and be prepared to be hated and boycotted.

(I have nothing against 'honest big business' but growing a
'big business' does not require running everyone else out of
business. In a free market, doing so would not mean that your
stock would always increase and Wal-Mart is a perfect example.
The fact that they are as much of a bully that they are, has
hurt their stock. Even if we don't see it on the bottom line. ...I
know I don't shop there as much because of it.)

jd603
05-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Way to go ChinaMart! :)

JMann
05-19-2008, 09:32 AM
I won't spend a dollar in a Wal-Marx.

Their ongoing "downsizing" of firearms sales is one reason. (Dorf notwithstanding. You do know you were put into a video database?)

Another is that they are becoming the modern day equivalent of the company store.

Third is, on many items they are no bargain, unless new to an area in which case they lower prices to below cost and shut down every local retailer, then jack up the price later.

Fourth, they have forced suppliers to "outsource" their manufacturing, even when the manufacturer was able to come in at the cost agreed to.

YAWN.

They employee 100's of thousands of people directly and millions of people indirectly. I hope your personal boycott fails.

A Ron Paul Rebel
05-19-2008, 10:50 AM
YAWN.

They employee 100's of thousands of people directly and millions of people indirectly. I hope your personal boycott fails.

This is the second thread that I see you hacking on
freedom of choice and freedom of speech.

Are you just here to be a hater? Or do you have
anything worthwhile to offer?

RP4EVER
05-19-2008, 01:17 PM
Ya know; I work for Wal-Mart; they pay my bills and i have damn good insurance; knock it if you want to and keep knocking it you'll lose more power by knocking someone; quite a few of my co-workers have visited this sight. Potential new blood and you're knocking our source of income; we arent all as rich as some of you wish you were; we arent all as well to do as some of you think you are.

So I must ask please be respectful and dont knock anything in public that employees at least One Ron Paul Precint Leader and employees many other potential Ron Paul Precint leaders.

kigol
05-19-2008, 01:36 PM
:(

A Ron Paul Rebel
05-19-2008, 01:57 PM
Ya know; I work for Wal-Mart; they pay my bills and i have damn good insurance; knock it if you want to and keep knocking it you'll lose more power by knocking someone; quite a few of my co-workers have visited this sight. Potential new blood and you're knocking our source of income; we arent all as rich as some of you wish you were; we arent all as well to do as some of you think you are.

So I must ask please be respectful and dont knock anything in public that employees at least One Ron Paul Precint Leader and employees many other potential Ron Paul Precint leaders.

I must respectfully disagree!

For one, I don't think there was any bad 'hating' going on.
Just the facts. Wal Mart does willfully run some businesses
out of business, Wal Mart does sell crappy shoes, I don't
shop there as much since I learned about their 'spy-chips'
and some of their practices, etc...

I don't know about some of those other allegations.

Secondly, just because a RP supporter works at a specific
place, doesn't mean that we need to give up our freedom
of speech, does it?

Thirdly, most of what I was talking about anyways was a
hypothetical 'what if' about 'what would WalMart be like
if we had a free market society'. So I shared what I see.

And as I mentioned, I have nothing against 'honest big
business' which I think Wal-Mart mostly is. There are just
a few of their practices and products that I don't like.

They do offer a tremendous value to society and I 100%
love and appreciate that about them, but that doesn't
mean that I have to like EVERYTHING about them and that
I can't speak my mind about them.

Thanks for letting me rant a little.

Here's to honest big business,
Hunter

p.s. The more we honestly speak freely about this, the
more honest they will remain... Stay silent and say nothing
and they very well may become 'corrupt big business'.

christagious
05-19-2008, 10:05 PM
Secondly, just because a RP supporter works at a specific
place, doesn't mean that we need to give up our freedom
of speech, does it?


I agree with you 100% right here. I work at McDonald's (yeah, I know), but it gets me through college, I got a year and a half left.. well anyways, i work for McDonald's and there's plenty of bad things to say about Ronald's place just like there's a lot of bad things about Wally's World.

I do disagree with you about Wal-Mart being mostly an honest big-business. Watch some of the documentaries or read some of the books about Wal-Mart. There's a lot to hate about them, but their stuff is less expensive than some of the other stores around here where I live so I go there, and I feel like one hell of a hypocrite for doing so because I hate alot of their business practices. But I hate a lot of McDonald's practices too and I slave for them. And I eat at other restaurants with bad practices.

Anti Federalist
05-19-2008, 10:07 PM
YAWN.

They employee 100's of thousands of people directly and millions of people indirectly. I hope your personal boycott fails.

So does government.

There are three things to which almost all human misery can be attributed to:

Big Government,
Big Business,
Big Religion.

All are threats to your political, economic and spiritual freedom.

After all, fascism can not exist as an economic system (which it is) without big government. And as we devolve further into fascism, (actually we have the worst of both worlds, economic fascism couple with increasingly authoritarian "welfare" socialism) I'm not so ready to give large corporate entities a "free pass".

So I'll continue to engage in what small amount of economic freedom I have left, and not do business with Wal-Marx.

USAFCapt
05-25-2008, 03:13 PM
The Wal-Mart in Destin, FL did not have the book in their small book section. I asked one of the managers about ordering the book and he said he had NO say in the book ordering. The store placement is all up to the distributors.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
05-27-2008, 05:56 PM
Ya know; I work for Wal-Mart; they pay my bills and i have damn good insurance; knock it if you want to and keep knocking it you'll lose more power by knocking someone; quite a few of my co-workers have visited this sight. Potential new blood and you're knocking our source of income; we arent all as rich as some of you wish you were; we arent all as well to do as some of you think you are.

So I must ask please be respectful and dont knock anything in public that employees at least One Ron Paul Precint Leader and employees many other potential Ron Paul Precint leaders.Blindly supporting an organization that provides some menial benefit to you at the expense of so much more?

Hmm, where have we seen this before?