LibertasPraesidium
05-16-2008, 12:27 AM
Hmmm I think we are missing the point most people do not take the time to actually read the "news." How many of the 300 million or so people can vote. 100 million maybe more, maybe less. How many people actually vote? How many are educated?
Heres a statistic for you, of the 300 million people in this country around 50 million are eligible for military service, now if that is true (and they are aged between say 18 and 50) and RP caters to all ages, how hard should it really be to wake people up? The government has done a good job at getting us tied up in triviality that most don't seem to want to.
But when confronted with logical, sound, and reasonable explanations of say the problem with the economy, not austrian economics or anything like that, but the boom and bust cycle, or maybe they just don't know about economics(or anyother topic) and haven't had 1) an interest 2) a reason for interest. These people are friends, neighbors, and its the summer soon why don't we just pick up and really start fighting, stop trying to get people involved, (but still get people involved, the message sales itself) but we have to promote or educate people.
This may seem a bit mean but if we believe that most of the people in this country are sheep. Then why don't we start educating them on things that they will turn to, small things, like say the price of milk and why gas is so expensive, get their answers, then maybe try to sit and discuss openly and nicely why they think so. Then ask if they want to help you understand more and look it up together. Do some research with them, but overall people will wake up with three things
1) The book
2) The constitution
3) A history lesson(a real one)
4) a bond that shows a real personal connection between people, the only real thing in our society that can stop crime, and help the poor.
Its just kindness, but seriously, if they are so bent on voting for someone else, stop debating and start asking them to prove it online, if they are no good on line then see if you can do it with them. You never know, one morning you could wake up and boom, your neighbors and friends all have RP signs, hmmm wonder what happend.
(Real list)
1) Proper true education, (ie a variety of sources that are credible, and a brain, no more lies, different thoughts on economies, the arts, immigration, anything to help them understand more about the world they live in.) before you walk you crawl?
2) Reading the Book,
3) Seeing RP in person talk about these things,
4) Sitting them down and telling them about how they have been brain washed into believing things that are very much not true. (just pick a topic on this one.)
I believe everyone can open up and understand the revolution, if it unites so many people into a basic understanding of the issue of governance, that are, by and far, the most diverse group of politically active people, standing together. Then, everyone will understand.
Ok, so four things, but you all get my point. It takes time with some, even if they do not believe he will win, see if they will support the message, in part, or entirety, i bet we will surprise ourselves.
SweetMona
05-16-2008, 02:19 PM
This is a common response I get and I am thinking of the best answer to it.
"Although I agree with Ron Paul, I want my vote to count and not be wasted. So I am going to vote for Barack Obama because I feel he is the lesser of the two evils and has more of a chance."
This answer always angers me. I feel that it is the first time your vote actually counts for something! I don't want to be overly aggressive and scare the person. How do I respond to this? I get the same with republicans they'll say.
"I would vote for Ron Paul if he was the republican nominee but I would rather see a republican elected because the democratic's tax increases will be disastrous."
I try to say, well if Ron Paul was president he would get rid of the income tax! Although they feel that is awesome they don't want to "waste" their vote.
People seem to vote not on who they believe will be the best president but who they think will win. That to me seems illogical.
:eek:THAT'S SCARY to see them voting for Obama they hardly know who! Why do they support him? Young, excellent speaker? I don't buy that!
He ran only few years of Senate, he never taught Constitutional Law! At that time, he was a senior lecturer on LEAVE!
I didn't mind if he told the truth that he grew up being Muslim for 31 years and converted to Christian after married to Michelle Obama. However, he has no principles for telling the truth, he told plenty lies that he was raised and practiced as Christian, BS! GO TO WWW.DONTvoteOBAMA.net (http://www.DONTvoteOBAMA.net) and find him wearing a dashski (sp?) (muslim gowns) and other ones standing next to Millionarie Muslim leader. Those pictures are real and shown by another black guy.
His brother is a Muslim Marxist and Militiant (notorious kind of guy!) His father is not goat herder, he is something else that Obama doesnt want Americans to know! Read and learn the facts facts facts! see pictures and Read below....
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The Many Lies of Barack
1.) Selma Got Me Born - Lie, you were born in 1961 - Selma had no effect
on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - Lie, he was a privileged, well educated
youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - Lie, he was part of one of the
most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - Lie, your cousin
Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread
violence in many years.
5.) My Name is African Swahili - Lie, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'
(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
also Arabic and so is Obama.
6.) I Never Practiced Islam - Lie, you practiced it daily at school,
where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,
until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
7.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - Lie, you were registered as
Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
(check your own book).
8.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - Lie, not one teacher says you could
speak the language.
9.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - Lie,
you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the
language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch
cartoons.
10.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - Lie, you were quite
content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no
mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just
fine.
11.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - Lie, Ebony has yet to
find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,
exist.
12.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - Lie, Life has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.
13.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - Lie, here you are,
despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.
14.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - Lie, they are common for
YOU, but not many others have 130 PRESENT VOTES.
15.) Oops, I Misvoted - Lie, only when caught by church groups and
democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
16.) I Was A Professor Of Law - Lie, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.
17.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - Lie, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.
18.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - Lie, you didn't write
it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
19.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - Lie, it took just 14 days from
start to finish.
20.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - Lie, your bill was rejected by your
own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because
of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
21.) I Have Released My State Records - Lie, as of May, 1 2008, state
bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all
the special interests pork hidden within.
22.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - Lie, you were part of
a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
23.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - Lie, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even
YOU voted against your own bill.
24.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - Lie, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
25.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - Lie, they were not YOUR
bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
26.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - Lie, the Candian Government
issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with
them.
27.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - Lie, you missed the Iran Resolution vote
on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction
of Israel.
28.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - Lie, after the NAFTA Memo, a
dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating
how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized
officially.
29.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - Lie, you ran ads ONLY along the
florida border as well as national ads in an attempt to reach Florida
voters 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
30.) I Won Michigan - Lie, no you didn't.
31.) I won Nevada - Lie, no you did not.
32.) I Want All Votes To Count - Lie, you said let the delegates decide,
and you have fought to have another primary in Michigan or Florida.
33.) I Want Americans To Decide - Lie, you prefer caucuses that limit
the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.
34.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - Lie, you passed 26, most
of which you didn't write yourself.
35.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - Lie, that friend is
threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has finally
stopped saying this.
36.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - Lie, you used tactics to
eliminate Alice Palmer (a fellow democrat that wanted you to replace her
in the next term) from running against you by challenging ALL of her
signatures and thus running unopposed.
37.) I Don't Take PAC Money - Lie, you take loads of it. The Obama PAC
is the largest PAC in the US Senate. I dare Obama supporters to go look
this up.
38.) I don't Have Lobbyists - Lie, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.
39.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - Lie, your own
campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
40.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - Lie, Tom, who started MySpace
issued a warning about this to MySpace clients.
41.) I Inspire People With My Words - Lie, you inspire people with other
people's words.
42.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - Lie, you have passed A
BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
43.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - Lie, you weren't in office to
vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike
Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you. You also seem to be stepping
back from your departure date in Iraq - AGAIN.
44.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - Lie, your plan
leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
45.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - Lie, both
companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have
no records of any such letters ever being created or sent.
46.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - Lie,
your wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan,
in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
47.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - Lie, your wife has
received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which
is connected to Wal-Mart.
48.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - Lie, the CEO of Treehouse last year,
made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
49.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - Lie, your wife's pay
raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate (going from $120K to
$320K weeks after you got into the US Senate and tried to get a $1
million pork project for the very same hospital) and the hospital is a
Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They
overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in
general by 538%!
50.) I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - Lie, you have known him
for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a
time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you
divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage
problems started. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you
can't afford, saving you $625,000.
51.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - Lie, you only gave back
Hsu ($72K [Yes, the same Hsu, Obama supporters try to tie Clinton to])
and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught
lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN, it's $250k) their
money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
52.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - Lie, your church is
so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done
blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the
year.
53.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - Lie, you only recently
repudiated Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate
large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message -
hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church
that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that
sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
54.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - Lie, you are not only
connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC
supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi,
who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Mr. Auchi was
also found guilt in another political corruption scandal (largest in
France since WWII). And this is one of Obamas' good supporters that paid
millions into the Obama campaign.
55.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos
on You Tube all day - Lie! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa speech you
said "Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church?
Yes I did." FLIP-FLOPPER
56.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - Lie.
Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that
looked into your records. Could it be that you had them look into yours
to hide the fact you looked into Clinton's and McCain's more than a year
before!
57.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - Lie. Rev. Meeks
appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped
raise money, then AND NOW. He also seems to despise America as much as
Rev. Wright.
58.) My wife didn't mean America is ignorant, she was just using a
phrase - Lie. Again, MicHELLe's comments are perfectly in sync with
Wright's, Meeks', and Farrakhan's, both in language, anger, and
direction.
59.) I am very Anti-Terror - Lie. One of your good pals is long time
radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the
last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed Khalidi, Professor at
Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for
Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published
a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren't there on THAT Sunday either?
How lucky for you.
60.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - Lie. You and
your campaign buddy Penny 'Sub Prime Bank Collapse' Prizker have had
your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103
from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from
Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston,
$11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from
Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from
Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from
Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the
subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
61.) I played a greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control,
the death penalty and abortion - Lie - It was found that Obama -- the
day after sitting for the interview -- filed an amended version of the
questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama's own handwritten notes
added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey. html
version <ssfm/lies.htm>
Is he a lesser of two evils? NOT! There is no such thing as "One lesser of two evils" None of above! We all want Ron Paul period!
We already know Barack Hussein Obama has no experience and no plan, but boy does he give great speeches.... ?
Feel free to give this magic red pill to your folks!
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