Does anyone actually believe Ron Paul will get a chance to speak at the RNC?

[Perry]

Does anyone actually believe Ron Paul will get a chance to speak at the grand ol' party national convention?

Just a wake up call for those of you who aren't aware.
It's just not going to happen in a million years.
We'll be next door making noise as always.

[slamhead]

No the RNC will hold onto their false conservative agenda and candidate to the grave.

[milly]

After what he has said about not endorsing McCain...no chance at all...unless through some miracle he gets on the ballot...

[RonPaulVolunteer]

I am doing all I can to try and help him WIN the darn convention. A miracle? Sure, but I believe in miracles.

[tomveil]

We'll be next door making noise as always.

Sounds like more fun to me anyway.

[Akus]

I am doing all I can to try and help him WIN the darn convention. as am i:o

[IPSecure]

as am i:o

Same Here!

So looking forward to meeting all of you in June.

Considering modifying my suit to wear my Ron Paul yard sign above my head...

[Perry]

Sounds like more fun to me anyway.

Less media and more fun. I guess that's an equal trade-off. :)

[G-Wohl]

Sounds like more fun to me anyway.

Trust me, the RNC won't have a smoking section (and I mean the Steve Kubby kind of smoking, not the Barack Obama kind).

[Xchange]

Yes...

Lieberman is going to address the RNC...
If RP does get a spot...hell will be paid....

[Thomas_Paine]

I honestly don't know yet

I've been noticing a lot of pressure coming on the GOP to include Ron Paul. 1st there was the Fox and friends talking about how Ron Paul canidacy could hurt McCain and Mike Galager stood up for Ron Paul (and his supporters) and said that Ron Paul should be given a prominent speaking spot at the convention. Also there have been many articles written by the Corp Media which have emphazed that this is Ron Paul's strategy. Most recently in the NPR interview (which you absolutely MUST listen to) Ron Paul was asked if a speaking spot was what he was after, why he was staying in. His response is quite interesting.

In my opinion the establishment is damned if you do, damned if you don't. If Ron Paul is excluded you can be DAMN SURE that we will be heard from on the floor of the convention!!! (And outside) not only that but this will probably cause some media buzz and humiliation for McCain. However allowing Ron Paul to speak would be even more dangerous. They simply can NOT allow him to have ANY credibility within the Republican Party. If he stands at that podium he takes on the authority of the GOP, this is a fight the Neo-Cons can't win, they are losing numbers and momentum everyday, we are GAINING in strength. I still have no idea how this whole convention thing is going to play out.

[tonyr1988]

I honestly don't know yet

I've been noticing a lot of pressure coming on the GOP to include Ron Paul. 1st there was the Fox and friends talking about how Ron Paul canidacy could hurt McCain and Mike Galager stood up for Ron Paul (and his supporters) and said that Ron Paul should be given a prominent speaking spot at the convention. Also there have been many articles written by the Corp Media which have emphazed that this is Ron Paul's strategy. Most recently in the NPR interview (which you absolutely MUST listen to) Ron Paul was asked if a speaking spot was what he was after, why he was staying in. His response is quite interesting.

In my opinion the establishment is damned if you do, damned if you don't. If Ron Paul is excluded you can be DAMN SURE that we will be heard from on the floor of the convention!!! (And outside) not only that but this will probably cause some media buzz and humiliation for McCain. However allowing Ron Paul to speak would be even more dangerous. They simply can NOT allow him to have ANY credibility within the Republican Party. If he stands at that podium he takes on the authority of the GOP, this is a fight the Neo-Cons can't win, they are losing numbers and momentum everyday, we are GAINING in strength. I still have no idea how this whole convention thing is going to play out.

+1

It will be interesting to see how the convention unfolds - they may give Paul a minute speaking role (on a day that no one really watches) as an appeasement.

[rational thinker]

I think there's a good chance he just might.

[RonPaulCult]

If they give him a spot it will be at like 1 PM when everybody is at work. If you think they will give him a primetime speech you are dreaming.

[Conza88]

If they give him a spot it will be at like 1 PM when everybody is at work. If you think they will give him a primetime speech you are dreaming.

Yea true story. It will be at the same time obama gives one or something, and only that will get covered.

[freelance]

I keep hearing that the delegates are not happy with McCain. (Well, duh!)

Do you honestly think that they would even entertain the thought of letting RP address these people, knowing that they're unhappy with McCain? Why on earth do you think they are trying so hard to keep RP delegates from progressing to the national convention. If the delegates were happy with McCain and firm in their conviction (they're not), then they wouldn't care if a few RP delegates slipped through the cracks.

The convention and the delegates are going to be on LOCK DOWN! That's my prediction.

I suspect that the few RP delegates that slip through the cracks will have problems getting past security at the convention site. I'll just bet it'll be the equivalent of being on the no-fly list.

[SteveMartin]

Not a chance in a million he will get a prime-time televised speech.

It's time to forget Ron Paul the man, and just work for the principles, and for candidates who sound like him. He's given up, or been threatened.

[speciallyblend]

Not a chance in a million he will get a prime-time televised speech.

It's time to forget Ron Paul the man, and just work for the principles, and for candidates who sound like him. He's given up, or been threatened.

i look forward to watching the death of the gop and after the general election we can pick up the pieces

[NCGOPer_for_Paul]

Yes. Ron Paul will speak at the Convention, and he may be offered a position in a McCain cabinet as part of a deal.

Here's why. There's still a month plus of primaries, and the Socialist party still hasn't decided on a nominee. Therefore, Hildabeast supporters haven't embraced Obamalamadingdong and vice versa. Yet, both of them lead McCain by at least 5 points in polls. Once the Socialists decide on their nominee, the polls will show them with a 10+ point lead. People will be coming out of the woodwork to register to vote for the Socialist candidate.

The GOP has lost three reliable house districts this year. McCain and the GOP WILL HAVE NO CHOICE but to UNIFY ALL REPUBLICANS! Failure to do so will result in a 60-35% popular vote total, and a 500-30 or so electoral vote count. Not to mention, the Socialists taking 300-350 House seats. The GOP would be rendered basically irrelevant. It would be one party rule for a very long time. Good bye any kind of economic freedom. Say hello to national healthcare. Say hello to unfettered Socialism. The United States would become a third-world nation. The GOP will not risk that.

What's going on right now is the powers that be in the GOP want to hold on to their power and are attempting to show a "unified" party by "kicking out" the Paul supporters, the rabid Romney-ites who won't conform, and the Fredheads who can't support McCain. Once they realize by doing this, they're going to seal their fate, you'll see a different tone. If not, the GOP is stupider than I think they are.

[speciallyblend]

Yes. Ron Paul will speak at the Convention, and he may be offered a position in a McCain cabinet as part of a deal.

Here's why. There's still a month plus of primaries, and the Socialist party still hasn't decided on a nominee. Therefore, Hildabeast supporters haven't embraced Obamalamadingdong and vice versa. Yet, both of them lead McCain by at least 5 points in polls. Once the Socialists decide on their nominee, the polls will show them with a 10+ point lead. People will be coming out of the woodwork to register to vote for the Socialist candidate.

The GOP has lost three reliable house districts this year. McCain and the GOP WILL HAVE NO CHOICE but to UNIFY ALL REPUBLICANS! Failure to do so will result in a 60-35% popular vote total, and a 500-30 or so electoral vote count. Not to mention, the Socialists taking 300-350 House seats. The GOP would be rendered basically irrelevant. It would be one party rule for a very long time. Good bye any kind of economic freedom. Say hello to national healthcare. Say hello to unfettered Socialism. The United States would become a third-world nation. The GOP will not risk that.

What's going on right now is the powers that be in the GOP want to hold on to their power and are attempting to show a "unified" party by "kicking out" the Paul supporters, the rabid Romney-ites who won't conform, and the Fredheads who can't support McCain. Once they realize by doing this, they're going to seal their fate, you'll see a different tone. If not, the GOP is stupider than I think they are.

if he accepts any position in mccains cabinet then i will LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to a bunch of SELLOUTS. There is no way you can even put mccain and ron paul together without ron paul selling out. McCain = a NO VOTE FOR ME IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, the gop can thank themselves for that.

AFTER what the gop has pulled state after state. They have burnt their bridges. IT's RON PAUL as the nominee or nothing. Mccain is dead in the water and the actions of the gop are to blame. i think your right though, the gop is deaf dumb and blind.

[Conza88]

Ron Paul going back on his principles... is like God apologizing to Satan and going down to join him in hell. :rolleyes:

You think that's going to happen? Keep dreamin'.

[freelance]

Yes. Ron Paul will speak at the Convention, and he may be offered a position in a McCain cabinet as part of a deal.

McCain and the GOP WILL HAVE NO CHOICE but to UNIFY ALL REPUBLICANS!

That's like saying that Bush's ratings are sub-30%, so he'll have to start listening. Or, it's like saying, hey we voted you in, now you have to represent us to any of our Congresscritters (with a few notable exceptions).

Ain't gonna happen--IMO.

[MozoVote]

Ron Paul is a politician. Am am sure he is open to offers to drop out and/or support McCain.

Remember Reagan visiting Gorbachev, and coming inches away from a new arms treaty, only for it all to be scuttled by disagreement over space-based defense? Remember Reagan and Ford negotiating all the way to convention day in 1980 about a possible Reagan/Ford ticket?

I expect something like this to take place before the convention.

McCain and Paul WILL talk. They will each deploy some brinkmanship in the negotiatiations. Then somebody will say "that's it, no deal" or "ok, you've got it."

It's politics. As long as there is time left to haggle, they can and probably will.

Personally, I'd like to see them NOT reach a deal. I don't want McCain's disaster of a campaign be blamed on "reaching out" to Paulites, and our arguments shut out in 2012.

[weslinder]

if he accepts any position in mccains cabinet then i will LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to a bunch of SELLOUTS. There is no way you can even put mccain and ron paul together without ron paul selling out. McCain = a NO VOTE FOR ME IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, the gop can thank themselves for that.

AFTER what the gop has pulled state after state. They have burnt their bridges. IT's RON PAUL as the nominee or nothing. Mccain is dead in the water and the actions of the gop are to blame. i think your right though, the gop is deaf dumb and blind.

What if Ron Paul were offered Secretary of the Treasury?

[bulloncoins]

Wow. I love threads like this. Shows exactly where the GOP stands....and as another poster pointed out....their own damn fault!

Yes, the GOP will awaken to the fact that they need the Paul supporters, and no, the Paul supporters whom have come this far are not about to give into McCain for the win....


The GOP is on its deathbed and will have to be reborn from the ashes in 2012, if there is a Country left at all after 4 years of RULE by the dems.

Yes for all those states who have "Support Bush and The War on Terror" written into the Party Platform.....being a litmus test for their version of true republican....

Rome is burning......and Bush is dancing. You are all done.

"That will do pig.....that will do."

[cayton]

if he accepts any position in mccains cabinet then i will LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to a bunch of SELLOUTS. There is no way you can even put mccain and ron paul together without ron paul selling out. McCain = a NO VOTE FOR ME IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, the gop can thank themselves for that.

AFTER what the gop has pulled state after state. They have burnt their bridges. IT's RON PAUL as the nominee or nothing. Mccain is dead in the water and the actions of the gop are to blame. i think your right though, the gop is deaf dumb and blind.

This is a bit counter productive. I dont see any possibility of me voting for mccain; ron paul cabinet spot included, but that doesnt mean I wouldnt like to see paul in the cabinet. I'd see it as a step forward.

Anyway, I think paul can get himself a speaking slot. If the GOP gives him a decent or great one, we ought to let it happen and hold to our word of not making a scene... however if they refuse, I'd like to see us make the most noise possible, including using some of that money in the bank for an ad during the conventions time slots.

[Fyretrohl]

Imagine Ron Paul as the head of the Department of Justice...

Imagine Ron Paul as Provost Marshall <As I recall, the only authority who can arrest a President>

[Conza88]

What if Ron Paul were offered Secretary of the Treasury?

What if Ron Paul were offered to stop the NWO? .... Check your premises. The NWO isn't going to offer Ron Paul the ability to slow down the process, or fix it.:rolleyes:

[MozoVote]

Paul's endorsement would probably not add many votes to McCain's totals. But it could help quiet the open hostility towards McCain, and that's probably enough for him. I am sure he is weighing out just how sweet an offer, he's willing to tolerate making.

I can't really imagine Paul "endorsing" McCain, though. Paul may be willing to take a more "vote your conscience" sort of stance, and be willing to stay out of supporting Barr.

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

I am doing all I can to try and help him WIN the darn convention. A miracle? Sure, but I believe in miracles.

me 3

[Conza88]

Anyone who thinks a NWO candidate (all 3) is going to offer Ron Paul a VP is whackjob.

DO it McCain, I dare ya. :rolleyes: MAUHUAUUHAAH! ;)

Edit: me 4.

[airborne373]

Yes!

[FreedomRings]

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination and if he believes that the GOP can win this year, he should most definitely accept a position as Secretary of State, Defense or Treasury. That will give him more credibility and more opportunities not just to spread the message but to make a real difference. He's a GOP congressman now so I don't see any drawbacks to accepting an upgrade to Secretary of something.

However, if he believes that the GOP can't win this year, it would be much better for him not to accept any position or deal. That way he (and we) can try to completely take over the GOP after the lost election.

[driller80545]

McCain will not offer anything to RP. Those positions are for the candidates cronies. And RP is not one of McCain's cronies.

[freelance]

Imagine Ron Paul as the head of the Department of Justice...

Imagine Ron Paul as Provost Marshall <As I recall, the only authority who can arrest a President>

Head of Dept. of Justice. LOL! You might want to start thinking about what America will look like with Giuliani in that position.

If RP throws his support to McCain, I'm SO outta here... It goes against everything I've known about the man for well over a decade. That's like making the injection while professing to be against the death penalty. THINK ABOUT IT!

[stewie3128]

+1

It will be interesting to see how the convention unfolds - they may give Paul a minute speaking role (on a day that no one really watches) as an appeasement.

Actually, whatever speaking spot they give him, they'll intentionally fuck up with technical glitches - same story as always... The GOP only sells us sour milk.

[Maltheus]

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination and if he believes that the GOP can win this year, he should most definitely accept a position as Secretary of State, Defense or Treasury.

Only if he wants his loyal base to abandon him. Ron Paul would never do this, of course, but if he did, well I'm sure I won't be the only one feeling like the biggest sucker in the world. In fact, I'd be enraged that I ever gave money to him.

The only position that I would accept him accepting would be the head of the Federal Reserve (ironic perhaps, but he could limit their excesses). At least then, he'd have some independent authority and wouldn't have to answer to McSame. But Bernake can't be replaced just yet in any case.

[ClayTrainor]

if they dont let ron paul speak... ohhhhhhhhhh man are we ever gonna start gaining numbers fast. I think all of us will become VERY motivated, even more than we currently are if he is not allowed to speak at the RNC

No matter what it's good for us. We can use this to our advantage no matter what... we have the upper hand.