Ron Paul University

[dude58677]

Should we start a college based on Ron Paul's principles. We could have classes in economics, constitution, history, political science, medicine, journalism and business? Michael Badnarik could be one of the professors as well as Michael Sheumer. Student loans from the Department of Education are prohibited, also government work-study programs are prohibited.
We could hold money bombs to get this university funded.

[dude58677]

once you have 1 billion dollars to spend.

We raised 20 million for Ron Paul's campaign, couldn't we raise that much for this?

[LibertyIn08]

We raised 20 million for Ron Paul's campaign, couldn't we raise that much for this?

It is going to take much, much more than that.

There are plenty of good conservative departments, such as Economics at U of C.

Better to get those more recognition than to try a project that has a very low chance of short or mid-term success.

[mdh]

I hear Duke's political science department is very well run. ;)

[Rhys]

yes, it can be done. I have a post with the same exact title from about a month or two ago.

[dude58677]

yes, it can be done. I have a post with the same exact title from about a month or two ago.

We could start out the university with only distance learning courses and once it becomes popular we can then move the university to a campus. Like you said, Ron Paul wasn't built in a day.

Edward Griffin can also be a professor at the university.

[Rhys]

We could start out the university with only distance learning courses and once it becomes popular we can then move the university to a campus. Like you said, Ron Paul wasn't built in a day.

Edward Griffin can also be a professor at the university.

that's an excellent idea. groundbreaking, in fact. we're already so connected online, what's adding an online college? like taking one more step, really.

The advances in the Ron Paul Revolution could overtake the advances in the porn industry, one day.

[constitutional]

We need professionals-- Judge Andrew Napolitano can be the dean. :D

[soapmistress]

(((love love love))) this idea.

I'll be the first to sign my kids up. I'll start making payments now while they're little and have it all paid for in advance. I'll beat inflation!

[Rhys]

(((love love love))) this idea.

I'll be the first to sign my kids up. I'll start making payments now while they're little and have it all paid for in advance. I'll beat inflation!

we'll pro-rate for inflation :eek:

[nate895]

Ron Paul University is already taken.

http://www.ronpauluniversity.com/

How about Constitution University?

[NoxTwilight]

that's an excellent idea. groundbreaking, in fact. we're already so connected online, what's adding an online college? like taking one more step, really.

The advances in the Ron Paul Revolution could overtake the advances in the porn industry, one day.

A client of mine is starting an online highschool (there are about 20 or so currently) She just told me today that the software and hosting that runs the whole thing is $10K. Research showed that not only is it the best but also the most affordable. If someone wants to really get into it and wants to know more details PM me and I'll find out more info.

Think it is a great idea and well worth looking into and making it a part of our overall future plans. Sure there are many qualified people that would participate and as Rhys says, we are already online and the technology available is really staggering when you think about it. I personally would give to support such a project.

[BarryDonegan]

everyone should be an online university of ron paul knowledge

[Rhys]

everyone should be an online university of ron paul knowledge

exactly. but where will they learn it? from us or from Yale?

[dude58677]

Should there be open admission or should there be strict requirements to get in? Should the students need 1300 on their SAT's to get accepted?

[dude58677]

Ron Paul University is already taken.

http://www.ronpauluniversity.com/

How about Constitution University?

University of Ron Paul?

[BarryDonegan]

from each of us, every day. from our mouths. change in america comes from mouths before anything else.

[Rhys]

from each of us, every day. from our mouths. change in america comes from mouths before anything else.

we're talking econ and public policy and law type degrees, not just public awareness

[BarryDonegan]

the educational community shifts with public awareness. if teachers teach things to adults who are smart enough to pursue those types of degrees which are in dissonance with their general understanding of the world, the universities themselves would go under.

but, bottom line, one private university wouldn't do that much to spread liberty on its own. if you are going to try and propagandize for a movement by controlling educational instutitutions, youre going up against the rockefeller types who have endowments at every university in america.

the top echelon of academics do not wind up buying into the stuff they are forcefed, most are academics by virtue of their inquisitive nature and therefor they reject most ideas presented to them.

however, if the entire of society accepts something as a truth, it will leak upward into the type of educational spin that is allowed by curriculum.

creating a university for a type of people who all collectively believe something doesn't seem to me like it has much purpose. That is much like the Christian music industry. Christian music is much more about profiting off of the Christian Market than it is about outreach. It is doubtful that a young teenager who enjoys listening to Tool, will convert to Christianity because he hears a Christian inspired band who imitates tool. In reality, it seems like its more about taking the 10$ from a Christian kid who doesn't want to hear the message of Tool, but would love to hear the sound.

Preaching to the choir IMO.

[NoxTwilight]

University of Ron Paul?

Liberty U?

[yongrel]

It's much easier to fantasize about raising millions of dollars to fund a RP university than it is to donate 20 bucks to Murray Sabrin or Vern McKinley, apparently.

[nate895]

Liberty U?

Jerry Falwell stole that one.

[NoxTwilight]

Jerry Falwell stole that one.

THE BASTARD!!!

He has no business having that!!

[dude58677]

It's much easier to fantasize about raising millions of dollars to fund a RP university than it is to donate 20 bucks to Murray Sabrin or Vern McKinley, apparently.

We don't need millions with the university only being a distance learning university.

[yongrel]

We don't need millions with the university only being a distance learning university.

I have such a hard time taking you seriously.

[dude58677]

I have such a hard time taking you seriously.

So we should only run campaigns and not educate the populace? I have trouble taking that seriously. We need educated voters.

[constitutional]

Should there be open admission or should there be strict requirements to get in? Should the students need 1300 on their SAT's to get accepted?

open admission bitches.

[constitutional]

It's much easier to fantasize about raising millions of dollars to fund a RP university than it is to donate 20 bucks to Murray Sabrin or Vern McKinley, apparently.

It is. What are you going to do about it?

[dude58677]

open admission bitches.

Ok, open admission it is. University of RP students need 1300 SAT's to get into the Honors program.

[rockandrollsouls]

It'd be nice to have a real conservative college with real values. Honestly, I wouldn't put any requirements on acceptance. That's how the big schools got stuck up and snobbish, and if I was the head of the school I'd give some people a fair chance. I mean, just because you're "book smart" doesn't mean you have "street smarts." Scores don't mean you can figure out what's really going on in the world...some of the most intelligent people in the world were never judged by an SAT score. I say, the lower your SAT, the more desirable you are for the honors program!

Let's face it; alot of the kids that dropped out in high school realized well before anyone else what a scam it was. I never dropped out, but I don't doubt the ones who did.

And ps. Fuck yongrel. I'll donate money to murray's campaign and fantasize about a real conservative college. What you gonna do then?

[constitutional]

It'd be nice to have a real conservative college with real values. Honestly, I wouldn't put any requirements on acceptance. That's how the big schools got stuck up and snobbish, and if I was the head of the school I'd give some people a fair chance. I mean, just because you're "book smart" doesn't mean you have "street smarts." Scores don't mean you can figure out what's really going on in the world...some of the most intelligent people in the world were never judged by an SAT score. I say, the lower your SAT, the more desirable you are for the honors program!

Let's face it; alot of the kids that dropped out in high school realized well before anyone else what a scam it was. I never dropped out, but I don't doubt the ones who did.

And ps. Fuck yongrel. I'll donate money to murray's campaign and fantasize about a real conservative college. What you gonna do then?

Spot on. They'd just have to take a small liberty test. :D

[dude58677]

It'd be nice to have a real conservative college with real values. Honestly, I wouldn't put any requirements on acceptance. That's how the big schools got stuck up and snobbish, and if I was the head of the school I'd give some people a fair chance. I mean, just because you're "book smart" doesn't mean you have "street smarts." Scores don't mean you can figure out what's really going on in the world...some of the most intelligent people in the world were never judged by an SAT score. I say, the lower your SAT, the more desirable you are for the honors program!

Let's face it; alot of the kids that dropped out in high school realized well before anyone else what a scam it was. I never dropped out, but I don't doubt the ones who did.

And ps. Fuck yongrel. I'll donate money to murray's campaign and fantasize about a real conservative college. What you gonna do then?

Ok, no SAT score. This is about spreading the message of freedom and everyone needs to hear this as we cannot continue to have a dumbed down society.

[constitutional]

What would be our college animal or 'mascot' as they call it?

I'll start with the worst suggestion on the list:

http://www.ideagrove.com/blog/uploaded_images/oreillyface-727911.jpg


or

http://www.landofbile.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/00003-lady-liberty.jpg

[nate895]

What would be our college animal or 'mascot' as they call it?

I'll start with the worst suggestion on the list:

http://www.ideagrove.com/blog/uploaded_images/oreillyface-727911.jpg

The Liberty Bell.

I am applying for acceptance in a couple of years. How much would tuition be?

[constitutional]

The Liberty Bell.

I am applying for acceptance in a couple of years. How much would tuition be?

I'm not sure how much tuition would be. What do you think?

[dude58677]

The Liberty Bell.

I am applying for acceptance in a couple of years. How much would tuition be?


What do you think a fair price would be? Should it be 20 times less the average college tuition as this is what the price of college would cost in 1913?

[nate895]

What do you think a fair price would be? Should it be 20 times less the average college tuition as this is what the price of college would cost without Federal Reserve inflation?

How about the students pay in gold? or silver?

[constitutional]

How about the students pay in gold? or silver?

Bingo, I like this idea.

[rockandrollsouls]

tuition should be just enough to keep the college well sustained i'd say. Some of you are probably joking, but I think this is a very good idea to be honest.

[libertythor]

There should be some sort of standards, but the SAT isn't the only test.

The ACT is the competition of SAT, and its widely accepted. The format is a bit different. There are also several other exams that can be used. ASVAB (military entrance exam .... one can take it for free without joining the military :) ) is another good one.


It'd be nice to have a real conservative college with real values. Honestly, I wouldn't put any requirements on acceptance. That's how the big schools got stuck up and snobbish, and if I was the head of the school I'd give some people a fair chance. I mean, just because you're "book smart" doesn't mean you have "street smarts." Scores don't mean you can figure out what's really going on in the world...some of the most intelligent people in the world were never judged by an SAT score. I say, the lower your SAT, the more desirable you are for the honors program!

Let's face it; alot of the kids that dropped out in high school realized well before anyone else what a scam it was. I never dropped out, but I don't doubt the ones who did.

And ps. Fuck yongrel. I'll donate money to murray's campaign and fantasize about a real conservative college. What you gonna do then?

[dude58677]

tuition should be just enough to keep the college well sustained i'd say. Some of you are probably joking, but I think this is a very good idea to be honest.

Ok, how do we contact Michael Badnarik, Lew Rockwell, Michael Schuerer, Peter Schiff, and Edward Griffin to ask them if they are interested in being professors for the university?

[yongrel]

The Ron Paul rocket is less of a fantasy than this.

[NoxTwilight]

tuition should be just enough to keep the college well sustained i'd say. Some of you are probably joking, but I think this is a very good idea to be honest.

and most schools have fundraising .. this should be no different .. scholarships and grants also would be good to have at least eventually

online schools are the wave of the future and will far surpass the traditional form someday .. as long as we can keep the gov't fingers out of it that is

[dude58677]

The Ron Paul rocket is less of a fantasy than this.

Hardly, that is going to space. We're simply talking about giving distance courses online. That's all!

[libertythor]

tuition should be just enough to keep the college well sustained i'd say. Some of you are probably joking, but I think this is a very good idea to be honest.

If it becomes well-established, endowments could come into play.

[nate895]

The Ron Paul rocket is less of a fantasy than this.

Why do you post on threads that are trying to be productive stating that they are being delusional. You're delusional for thinking ten house seats and a Senate seat should be our sole focus and that this alone will do everything we need.

[yongrel]

Why do you post on threads that are trying to be productive stating that they are being delusional. You're delusional for thinking ten house seats and a Senate seat should be our sole focus and that this alone will do everything we need.

Ah, you seem to be misinterpreting my position rather severely.

I feel that many members of this movement have eyes bigger than their stomachs, as it were. Idealism is fantastic, but only when tempered with realism.

[dude58677]

Why do you post on threads that are trying to be productive stating that they are being delusional. You're delusional for thinking ten house seats and a Senate seat should be our sole focus and that this alone will do everything we need.

We need educated voters and the establishment has flooded our unviversities with communist and neocon propaganda. This has to stop.

[nate895]

Ah, you seem to be misinterpreting my position rather severely.

I feel that many members of this movement have eyes bigger than their stomachs, as it were. Idealism is fantastic, but only when tempered with realism.

What is "unreal" about this? If we can't get anyone to teach at it, it failed, but that doesn't make this potential "unreal."

[Rhys]

yongrel's just a party pooper.

the college needs more than just a tuition rate and an acceptance policy though.

this isn't a side-project sort of thing.

[dude58677]

yongrel's just a party pooper.

the college needs more than just a tuition rate and an acceptance policy though.

this isn't a side-project sort of thing.

We need professors like Michael Schuerer. How do we contact him?

[yongrel]

We need professors like Michael Schuerer. How do we contact him?

Dear Mr. Schuerer,

I write this letter to inquire as to your interest in being a professor at the college I am starting.

The college I envision would have no admissions standards, because standardized tests are the NWO's fingers and grades are totalitarian. Not to mention, students would pay only in gold. Also, there is the distinct possibility that this will be a distance learning college, like University of Phoenix, but classier.

Also, it will be without pay, since we have a shoestring budget.

Would you be interested?

Sincerely,
A Ron Paul Supporter With Too Much Free Time.

[Rhys]

I have to agree with Yongrel on this one. you don't just contact him.

there's a lot of footwork that needs to be done first.

[nate895]

Dear Mr. Schuerer,

I write this letter to inquire as to your interest in being a professor at the college I am starting.

The college I envision would have no admissions standards, because standardized tests are the NWO's fingers and grades are totalitarian. Not to mention, students would pay only in gold. Also, there is the distinct possibility that this will be a distance learning college, like University of Phoenix, but classier.

Also, it will be without pay, since we have a shoestring budget.

Would you be interested?

Sincerely,
A Ron Paul Supporter With Too Much Free Time.

That's why you'd start up a fund raiser to get some money, and I'd have admissions standards (though they should be fairly low).

[fahayek]

Mises University (http://mises.org/events/103)

[nate895]

Mises University (http://mises.org/events/103)

Is that just those five days or an actual, physical university?

[puppetmaster]

why don't you think about buying an existing college forum either online or brick and morter

[dude58677]

Mises University (http://mises.org/events/103)

Mises University is only based on economics. The University of Ron Paul would be based on not just economics but political science, medicine, journalism, constitution, and history.

[dude58677]

What books/documentaries should be sold to students? Is this a good list?:

The Revolutution Maniefsto-Ron Paul
How I found freedom in an unfree world-Harry Browne
Why We Fight documentary(DVD)
Common Sense-Thomas Paine
On Liberty- John Stuart Mill

[FireofLiberty]

I hear Duke's political science department is very well run. ;)

Indeed it is.

[LibertyIn08]

Why is this thread still alive?

We have more important things to do at the moment, like those pesky congressional campaigns.

Trust me, the work involved is not worth it.

[dude58677]

Why is this thread still alive?

We have more important things to do at the moment, like those pesky congressional campaigns.

Trust me, the work involved is not worth it.


We can't have a dumbed down society. The establishment teaches marxist propaganda in schools and colleges. It's time that people had a real education.

[american.swan]

We can't have a dumbed down society. The establishment teaches marxist propaganda in schools and colleges. It's time that people had a real education.

Your goal of making the populous smarter is honorable and great but I think there are is a far easier way to do that.

monthly newsletter mailed to every GOP registered person in your district each month would hit the nail on the head.

Make the name some kind of neutral name that GOP wouldn't be turned off by.

Have the newsletter focus on the views of Ron Paul without actually saying his name very often. Also focus on voting records. Local "publishers" of the "national" newsletter could include something about their "local" candidates voting records.

Have the "newsletter" based on voting records announce in it's limited space pages that it supports such and such a candidated because he/she supports the true GOP way.

[dude58677]

Your goal of making the populous smarter is honorable and great but I think there are is a far easier way to do that.

monthly newsletter mailed to every GOP registered person in your district each month would hit the nail on the head.

Make the name some kind of neutral name that GOP wouldn't be turned off by.

Have the newsletter focus on the views of Ron Paul without actually saying his name very often. Also focus on voting records. Local "publishers" of the "national" newsletter could include something about their "local" candidates voting records.

Have the "newsletter" based on voting records announce in it's limited space pages that it supports such and such a candidated because he/she supports the true GOP way.


This isn't about promoting candidates. You won't be able to talk about libertarianism in a single monthly newsletter. A full libertarian education takes years to get so a student must go through a 4 years of intense education. An example of not being able to get an entire libertarian education is the movie "Why We Fight" which is a documentary on American Foreign Policy that is over two hours.

Another thing is that you need a professor to explain the reading material that they are getting.

[AzNsOuLjAh27]

We raised 20 million for Ron Paul's campaign, couldn't we raise that much for this?

How about we raise up some billboards in the major city's and not waste so much money?

[dude58677]

How about we raise up some billboards in the major city's and not waste so much money?

That is why we switched to the idea of having a distance learning university instead.

[DriftWood]

There are some Ron Paul economics type of educational institutions around. Why not hook up with them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute

http://www.wanniski.com/ssu.asp (to bad it closed down a couple years ago)

Cheers

[BillyDkid]

My feeling is we should start a new political party. The Libertarians have gone of the rail to a large extent and the GOP could not be further from what all of us believe in and every other party has some other non-liberty associated agenda - they all advocate government controls or either the economy or of our personal lives. I would be more than happy to write up a basic platform and run it by everyone for their approval. Honestly, I think anything other than starting fresh is a lost cause. You will notice that the Libertarians have changed their platform in some fundamental way which amount to comprimise in terms of advocating liberty and many of the flag bearers for the libertarian movement have become decidely unlibertarian in many respects. I believe there are some very basic principles on which we can all agree - rule of law (ie. Constitution) and not the rule of men, self ownership, the old non-aggression axiom and so on - basically libertarian principles. To me the Libertarian brand has been tarnished or discredited by the media to the extent it can't be restored. There is no reason why we can't break the strangle hold of the two main parties on power in this country - there are enough of us to form an influencial new party if we can all pull together. If you think this is a bad idea, tell me, but it seems to me we need a fundamental break with the past and a new start. The Ron Paul movement seems like the perfect vehicle for this.

[majinkoola]

I hear Duke's political science department is very well run. ;)

Not from what I hear. That one guy who organized RP's speech might be good, but everyone else in the department is liberal. The guy who taught constitutional law is in the mold of Kucinich.

[LibertyIn08]

We can't have a dumbed down society. The establishment teaches marxist propaganda in schools and colleges. It's time that people had a real education.

Between the conservative think tanks (Mises, etc.) and the conservative schools (University of Chicago, LSE, etc.), we already have the schools necessary. Best to promote and expand these schools when the start up costs are already amortized.

[Rhys]

billboard = little name recognition when it really doesn't matter anymore.

college = fresh crop of highly educated Ron Paul thinkers every year.

I say if you can pull off making a new college, it's way better than wasting money on advertising for a person who wont win. A college could promote the ideas much more than a billboard with Ron Paul's mug on it.

how about this:

someone pays for a billboard, someone else goes to the full time job of making a college (which will take a couple years to even get it started)

[dude58677]

billboard = little name recognition when it really doesn't matter anymore.

college = fresh crop of highly educated Ron Paul thinkers every year.

I say if you can pull off making a new college, it's way better than wasting money on advertising for a person who wont win. A college could promote the ideas much more than a billboard with Ron Paul's mug on it.

how about this:

someone pays for a billboard, someone else goes to the full time job of making a college (which will take a couple years to even get it started)

Ron Paul wants his message spread and a college is a great way to do it.

[dude58677]

My feeling is we should start a new political party. The Libertarians have gone of the rail to a large extent and the GOP could not be further from what all of us believe in and every other party has some other non-liberty associated agenda - they all advocate government controls or either the economy or of our personal lives. I would be more than happy to write up a basic platform and run it by everyone for their approval. Honestly, I think anything other than starting fresh is a lost cause. You will notice that the Libertarians have changed their platform in some fundamental way which amount to comprimise in terms of advocating liberty and many of the flag bearers for the libertarian movement have become decidely unlibertarian in many respects. I believe there are some very basic principles on which we can all agree - rule of law (ie. Constitution) and not the rule of men, self ownership, the old non-aggression axiom and so on - basically libertarian principles. To me the Libertarian brand has been tarnished or discredited by the media to the extent it can't be restored. There is no reason why we can't break the strangle hold of the two main parties on power in this country - there are enough of us to form an influencial new party if we can all pull together. If you think this is a bad idea, tell me, but it seems to me we need a fundamental break with the past and a new start. The Ron Paul movement seems like the perfect vehicle for this.


Third parties never get into office because of the electoral college and because the Democrats and Repoublicans keep them off the ballot. Ron Paul running as a Republican has been very effective in getting the message out. Ron Paul is also trying to take back the Republican Party because a real Republican is a libertarian.

[dude58677]

Between the conservative think tanks (Mises, etc.) and the conservative schools (University of Chicago, LSE, etc.), we already have the schools necessary. Best to promote and expand these schools when the start up costs are already amortized.

University of Chicago teaches neo-conservatism. Leo Strauss is one of the professors who taught Paul Wolfowitz.

Mises universty only teaches economics and doesn't teach about American Foreign Policy and the Constitution nor does it teach about journalism which this last Presidential election has taught us that we need honest journalists for tommorow's future.

[Michael Ingram]

University of Chicago teaches neo-conservatism. Leo Strauss is one of the professors who taught Paul Wolfowitz.

Mises universty only teaches economics and doesn't teach about American Foreign Policy and the Constitution nor does it teach about journalism which this last Presidential election has taught us that we need honest journalists for tommorow's future.

Cato

[Rhys]

Cato

joking, right?

[rathskeller]

Ok, open admission it is. University of RP students need 1300 SAT's to get into the Honors program.


I can't believe that you put any stock in a meanigless standardized test that does nothing to actually measure a student's ability to succeed in school or life.

[dude58677]

I can't believe that you put any stock in a meanigless standardized test that does nothing to actually measure a student's ability to succeed in school or life.

I stated in a later post that the SAT was dropped.

[Jason726]

I like this idea of starting with an online college, and if it works out, build to bigger and better things. If we could get a real degree and this was completely legit I will bet my life on at least 15,000 people would enroll from the start.

[LibertyIn08]

An online entity doing small seminars or such would be far more cost-effective, and within the realm of a feasibility.

I don't think many here understand the costs associated with developing a RESPECTED institution of higher learning.

[kigol]

neato

[ThePieSwindler]

This idea can't be TOO biased, otherwise you won't get accredited. Obviously teach the constitution, economics, etc without a statist bias, but don't try to overdo it or skew it too much... otherwise theres less of a chance of accrediation - and there'd be no point in starting this university if accreditation is not a goal.

[dude58677]

An online entity doing small seminars or such would be far more cost-effective, and within the realm of a feasibility.

I don't think many here understand the costs associated with developing a RESPECTED institution of higher learning.

This IS an online university. I was considering having an affiliate marketing program to sell admissions.