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xqqmytude
05-12-2008, 06:47 AM
I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet. :eek:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/ronpaulgop.html


Virtually all the nation's political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.

But in the meantime, quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in St. Paul at the beginning of September.

Paul's presidential candidacy has been correctly dismissed all along in terms of winning the nomination. He was even excluded as irrelevant by Fox News from a nationally-televised GOP debate in New Hampshire.

But what's been largely overlooked is Paul's candidacy as a reflection of a powerful lingering dissatisfaction with the Arizona senator among the party's most conservative conservatives. As anticipated a month ago in The Ticket, that situation could be exacerbated by today's expected announcement from former Republican Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia for the Libertarian Party's presidential nod, a slot held by Paul in 1988.

Nevermind Ralph Nader, Republican and Democratic parties both face....

...potentially damaging internal splits that could cripple their chances for victory in a narrow vote on Nov. 4.

Just take a look at recent Republican primary results, largely overlooked because McCain locked up the necessary 1,191 delegates long ago. In Indiana, McCain got 77% of the recent Republican primary vote, Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, who've each long ago quit and endorsed McCain, still got 10% and 5% respectively, while Paul took 8%.

On the same May 6 in North Carolina, McCain received less than three-quarters of Republican votes (74%), while Huckabee got 12%, Paul 7% and Alan Keyes and No Preference took a total of 7%.

Pennsylvania was even slightly worse for the GOP's presumptive nominee, who got only 73% to a combined 27% for Paul (16%) and Huckabee (11%).

As Politico.com's Jonathan Martin noted recently, at least some of these results are temporary protest votes in meaningless primaries built on lingering affection for Huckabee and suspicion of McCain.

Given the long-since settled GOP race, thousands of other Republicans in these states, who might have put up with a McCain vote, crossed over to vote in the more exciting Democratic primaries, on their own for Sen. Barack Obama or at the urging of talk-show host Rush Limbaugh who sought to support Hillary Clinton and prolong Democratic bloodletting.

According to a recent Boston Globe tally, Paul has a grand total of 19 Republican delegates to Romney's 260, Huckabee's 286 and McCain's 1,413.

The last three months Paul's forces, who donated $34.5 million to his White House effort and upwards of one million total votes, have, as The Ticket has noted, been fighting a series of guerrilla battles with party establishment officials at county and state conventions from Washington and Missouri to Maine and Mississippi. Their goal: to take control of local committees, boost their delegate totals and influence platform debates.

Paul, for instance, favors a drastically reduced federal government, abolishing the Federal Reserve, ending the Iraq war immediately and withdrawing U.S. troops from abroad.

They hope to demonstrate their disagreements with McCain vocally at the convention through platform fights and an attempt to get Paul a prominent speaking slot. Paul, who's running unopposed in his home Texas district for an 11th House term, still has some $5 million in war funds and has instructed his followers that their struggle is not about a single election, but a longterm revolution for control of the Republican Party.

So eager are they to follow their leader's words, that Paul's supporters have driven his new book, "The Revolution: A Manifesto," to the top of several bestseller lists.

While Paul has consistently refused a third-party bid, he has vowed not to endorse McCain, a refusal mirrored by hundreds of his supporters who've left comments on The Ticket in recent weeks. And, no doubt, they'll flock back here today to spread the gospel below.

--Andrew Malcolm

micahnelson
05-12-2008, 06:56 AM
posted at Druuuuuudge

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 07:08 AM
Gee, it will only be a matter of "Time" before these rascally reporters dig up our super secret rocket project.

Conza88
05-12-2008, 07:20 AM
Gee, it will only be a matter of "Time" before these rascally reporters dig up our super secret rocket project.

Lmao.


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8338/RonPaulYoda.jpg

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 07:33 AM
Lmao.


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8338/RonPaulYoda.jpg

Paul/Yoda 2012!

slacker921
05-12-2008, 07:37 AM
The funny/sad thing though is they continue to underestimate the number of Paul delegates by a huge amount all while trying to play up the story that the Paul delegates are going to disrupt or cause revolt at the national convention. ?? How are 19 people out of thousands going to cause the disruption that the reporters are going on about?

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 07:40 AM
The funny/sad thing though is they continue to underestimate the number of Paul delegates by a huge amount all while trying to play up the story that the Paul delegates are going to disrupt or cause revolt at the national convention. ?? How are 19 people out of thousands going to cause the disruption that the reporters are going on about?

I think that's what makes it a subtle hit piece. They are laughing at us... because the efforts of the state GOPs are succeeding at scuttling any chance of Ron Paul victories... or even any delegates at all.
Watch how many states won't have voting delegates at the convention.

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 07:43 AM
How many states will have contested national delegates?
Louisiana
Missouri
Nevada

what other state?

eloquensanity
05-12-2008, 07:59 AM
Gee, it will only be a matter of "Time" before these rascally reporters dig up our super secret rocket project.

LOL Looking forward to that day. :D

FreeTraveler
05-12-2008, 08:17 AM
Gee, it will only be a matter of "Time" before these rascally reporters dig up our super secret rocket project.

What's the first rule of Fight Club?

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 08:19 AM
What's the first rule of Fight Club?

You must not have supported a candidate prior to the convention?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWuhAyJyfZQ

FreeTraveler
05-12-2008, 08:23 AM
You must not have supported a candidate prior to the convention?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWuhAyJyfZQ

?? I was referring to the fact that we should not be discussing the super-secret rocket project in a public forum. :D

acptulsa
05-12-2008, 08:24 AM
Those damned McCain-bots and their tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories! :rolleyes:

Conza88
05-12-2008, 08:28 AM
What's the first rule of Fight Club?

His Name is Ron Paul! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkYJVJh2a6Q)


http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6240/ronpaulsoappp7.jpg

NocturnalC
05-12-2008, 08:44 AM
........his name is Ron Paul..........

torchbearer
05-12-2008, 08:45 AM
?? I was referring to the fact that we should not be discussing the super-secret rocket project in a public forum. :D

Oh- that fight club.
I thought you were talking about THEIR fight club, the one they won't let us into because we supported Ron Paul prior to the convention.

scholarpreneur
05-13-2008, 08:42 PM
Haven't we heard from this Andrew Malcom fellow before? If I didn't know any better, I'd think he was a closet Ron Paul supporter.

Either way, I appreciate the fair coverage he has given RP and the movement.