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Phantom
05-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Ron Paul and Freedom in serious danger from US "brownshirts"

Ian Brockwell
May 09, 2008

Even though Ron Paul has no chance of being nominated as a Presidential candidate (at least under current circumstances), there are some (the "Elite") who still see this remarkable man as a real threat. Even though he may never take up residence in the White House, he continues to provide a much needed political education to the masses, and this is seen as a danger.

For many years the American public have been told what to do, who to vote for, and to obey every command without question. You have been brainwashed into believing that you live in a country that has freedom and democracy, and have been so busy living this "dream" that you havenīt noticed that it vanished a long time ago!

Ron Paul and his valiant supporters have made tremendous efforts to enlighten others, but the "Elite" controlled mainstream media have made certain that his message was kept out of view. No doubt the MSM can congratulate themselves on a "Mission Accomplished"?

As part of the brainwashing, those supporting Ron Paul have been labeled as "kooks", an effective method used to discourage others from doing the same. This tactic is used to prevent people investigating potentially "sensitive" areas (like the JFK assassination, 9/11, UFOs, aerial spraying, chemicals in the water supply and so on).

Those who are brave enough to question these "unexplainable" subjects are called "Conspiracy Theorists", which is a more technical name for "Kooks". But very few people take the time to ask themselves WHY should the authorities label people in such a way? If these "theories" are so ridiculous, why donīt they provide proof to destroy these ideas once and for all? Why are the records of the JFK assassination still secret, why hasnīt there been an independent enquiry into 9/11, why are all UFO sightings dismissed without any investigation, why are the skies been sprayed with chemicals? What do they have to hide?

Just because your leader doesnīt wear a uniform with Swastikas on it and the people are not shouting "Sieg Heil" at his meetings, doesnīt mean America is not living under some dictatorship, it is! And just like before, there are people like Hitlerīs "brownshirts" helping to make it happen. Take the recent Republican Convention in Nevada for example. Ron Paul was certain of victory there, but the vote was cancelled, and in order to stop a further attempt (by having insufficient numbers), the McCain supporters walked out of the Convention room to avoid a head count. Howīs that for American democracy?

In 1920 the "Ordnertruppen" (created by Hitler to protect gatherings of the Nazi party from disruption by rivals) "thrashed" the opposition in a Munich meeting. The Nazis called this event the Saalschlacht (meeting hall battle) and after this the Ordnertruppen became known as the SA (AKA "brownshirts"). After the McCain supporters succeeded in blocking the vote, many were heard to "cheer" the decision.

Whilst the SA was made up of beer drinking thugs with limited IQīs, the SS (who appeared later) were more "middle class" and eventually gained more power than the SA. This pattern will probably repeat itself in the US. The mindless fools who are destroying whatīs left of Americaīs democracy will be pushed aside once their job is done and suffer the same fate as everyone else. What they canīt understand is that they are doing the dirty work of the "Elite", who are not in the least bit interested in their future, only their own!

But what of the danger to Ron Paul? Here is a man who genuinely wants to see what is best for the US and even though he may never become President, he is fighting on. How can anyone who supports the Constitution as strongly as he does be sidelined for the likes of Obama, Clinton or McCain? His views should be at the top of everyoneīs list when selecting a President, if they are truly Patriotic and want to see a free country, but they are not!

The "Elite" have done a splendid job in fooling the American public into doing exactly what they want, again. With your help they have taken away what will probably be your last chance of having a future, and they wonīt stop until all the voices have been silenced. We have already seen what can happen to those who try to speak out, they have their reputations destroyed (at best), have "accidents", develop fatal health conditions, are murdered, or commit "suicide". We must protect Ron Paul by showing the "Elite" that there are MANY voices that will spread the word, and remember that there is safety in numbers.

If you can avoid believing all that your "masters" tell you and question why they do the things they do, there is hope for you and your country. If you canīt, all is lost and you will soon need a tongue to match the color of that shirt!

Link (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/61292)

For more articles on Ron Paul and the Revolution, please visit the first link below.

RonPaulVolunteer
05-09-2008, 12:08 PM
They can't take Ron Paul out. It will make the movement explode. It would be the very worst thing they could do, and they know it. Too many have already been woken up.

Rhys
05-09-2008, 12:17 PM
why do our "supporters" insist on making chem trails and lizard people a part of the debate? can't we just fix the system and stop bring Ron Paul's name into shit we admit is seen as "kooky"?

IF at some point, a Ron Paul convert wants to look up chemtrails, fine... but stop saying "you're brainwashed cause you don't believe in chemtrails so vote Ron Paul before you get mind controlled by radio waves and Hiter!". what the fuck?

Even if it's real, it's sounds stupid!

dannno
05-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Even if it's real, it's sounds stupid!

The reason it sounds stupid is because you are brainwashed. It doesn't sound stupid to me, it sounds maniacal. Why doesn't it sound maniacal to you?

revolutionary8
05-09-2008, 12:26 PM
why do our "supporters" insist on making chem trails and lizard people a part of the debate? can't we just fix the system and stop bring Ron Paul's name into shit we admit is seen as "kooky"?

IF at some point, a Ron Paul convert wants to look up chemtrails, fine... but stop saying "you're brainwashed cause you don't believe in chemtrails so vote Ron Paul before you get mind controlled by radio waves and Hiter!". what the fuck?

Even if it's real, it's sounds stupid!

Why do our "supporters" insist on bringing Lizard People in to the debate, even though nothing of the sort was ever mentioned before their misdirection towards these "mysterious creatures"? :rolleyes:

Rhys
05-09-2008, 12:29 PM
The reason it sounds stupid is because you are brainwashed. It doesn't sound stupid to me, it sounds maniacal. Why doesn't it sound maniacal to you?

FIRST: It sounds crazy cause it is CRAZY no matter if it's real. I AM NOT BRAINWASHED and your insistance than anyone who calls crazy what it is is brainwashed, is why I hate that Ron Paul "supporters" wont leave it in Hot Topics.


because it sounds so maniacal is what makes it sound crazy. most people don't want to think their leaders are psychopathic crazies. They want to believe RP Supporters are! So please don't introduce Ron Paul to people by saying if you don't vote for him, you're a brainwashed nazi!!!!!!! Let them hear the MESSAGE and realize for themselves that they've been Hitler-Lovers. Otherwise they'll continue to think we're the crazy ones.

And if you MUST spread these theories, please don't do it in association with Ron Paul. This is not the "here's everything the government does against us so vote Ron Paul Revolution." It's just the Ron Paul Revolution.

Not to mention, it sounds crazy because it's so outside the realm of what people expect in life. people expect world takeover plans come from James Bond movies, not Chase Manhattan Bank and Fifth Third.

You can't just throw a big does of "chemtrail, mind-control beams" at people because they'll say "just wear a tin-foil hat and the beams can't get you." and then they'll laugh AT you.

Todd
05-09-2008, 12:42 PM
I'm on your side Rhys.

MS0453
05-09-2008, 12:47 PM
As long as we're on this, can we cut the sheeple nonsense too? Its so damn pretentious.

Todd
05-09-2008, 01:03 PM
As long as we're on this, can we cut the sheeple nonsense too? Its so damn pretentious.

I know what you're saying....but I simply love that famous pic.

http://www.danielmountain.com/liveleak/2005/jan/buzzsaw_files/sheeple.jpg

RonPaulVolunteer
05-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Lizard people?? Yeah that's insane. Though there's a pretty convincing guy talking about how he was attacked by an alien, and lost all his toes and most of his fingers in the process. Not sure what to think about that. But Chemtrails, I think the evidence for them is pretty clear.

acptulsa
05-09-2008, 01:15 PM
As long as we're on this, can we cut the sheeple nonsense too? Its so damn pretentious.

I'm on your side, too, Rhys. I think something definitely smells about 9/11, but I don't see why it has to be aired here. I really don't. I don't want to scare potential supporters with it, and I don't want to offend them, either, MS0453 (see my sig).

And while I do believe there are people who would love to see Dr. Paul dead, I don't see them stirring us up that way until they've tried everything else (like threatening to kill him in hopes we'll foam at the mouth and discredit ourselves).

CurtisLow
05-09-2008, 02:28 PM
chem trails are making people into lizard people? Now I'm scared! :D

dannno
05-09-2008, 03:07 PM
Lizard people?? Yeah that's insane. Though there's a pretty convincing guy talking about how he was attacked by an alien, and lost all his toes and most of his fingers in the process. Not sure what to think about that. But Chemtrails, I think the evidence for them is pretty clear.

Exactly.


Problem: Sheople accept the world as it is presented to them by the mainstream media.



So, sometimes people need an extreme example of in order to show them that they've been lied to.... by ALL the news channels. You can try to show them how Ron Paul was blacked out, but if they believe the media they will just think he's an unpopular kook. They will continue to believe that the media didn't give him attention cause he didn't deserve any cause nobody really liked him.

The media puts up barriers in people's minds to protect them from finding the truth. By showing someone an extreme undeniable example of how the media has lied to us (like 9/11), they will finally realize how much control the media has. Then they can begin to explore new ideas.

Without an extreme example, the person is just debating within the false barriers the media has created and can't think outside the box. Sometimes it takes an extreme example to get people out of the box.

PlzPeopleWakeUp
05-09-2008, 03:07 PM
nt

PlzPeopleWakeUp
05-09-2008, 03:26 PM
nt

revolutionary8
05-09-2008, 03:29 PM
Thanks for your post- yes, chemtrails are VERY real.
I mentioned the fact that the Bay area is being sprayed with CheckMate in order to keep moths from mating to one of my skeptic friends, and they stated, "That is different, that is crop dusting, chem trails don't exist".
That tickled me- show me the crops in the Bay area. lol.

JMann
05-09-2008, 03:38 PM
I'm going to say this again....

I work at the 3rd largest structural engineering firm in the country, which is just one small sector of our company. I am the computer wiz here. On a daily basis I design structural analytical models and support over 10 structural engineers. I create custom engineering software on a whim. I have been in commercial construction since I was a teen ager, my family owner a huge general contracting company. I've work on almost many, many major projects in the country like Mall of America to lots of building in Vegas in the late 90's. I watched many of them Vegas buildings come down in person and even partied with some of the demolition crew. In fact, I have worked on every attraction casino in Las Vegas (good to be union affiliated sometimes~). I have a long education in construction management, architecture, and engineering. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I have studied this ever since I watched it live on TV that day, I was taking a day off being an everquest nerd, but I had the 3 TVs on the cable news networks as usual.


THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. NO DOUBT WHAT-SO-EVER. Would you like me to break out the Revit Structure model and RISA and prove it to you spooks again??? You guys really didn't like it when I did it last time because... it proves it. It's wayyy over most people's heads, including most engineers since it deals in physics and not just statics.

So... since our current operating procedure in our world is based upon a lie, and you want me to not talk about the lie, I question your motives, BIG TIME.

[QUOTE=PlzPeopleWakeUp;1446142]I'm going to say this again....


I watched it live too. I saw three airplanes loaded with jet fuel fly into three different buildings. I guess if you accept the fact that W is satin and wants to see thousands of people die only so he can destroy his presidency than there is nothing I can say to change your opinion.

For those idiots that say a fire won't melt steel than I'll point you to this story- which I guess is just another super-intelligent GW Bush cover-up to distract the fact that fire doesn't melt steel. Hold on as anyone ever seen a steel factory melting the metal with fire.?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL

I guess fire does melt steel.

Rhys
05-09-2008, 06:23 PM
i know they're real... but the Ron Paul red pill is big enough to swallow for most people... throw in chem trails, and we've lost em.

show them chem trails, then if they believe, show them ron paul would work too. but don't show them both and associate the two.

as for lizard people, I just want them to be real so bad. It would make the world make sense again. I've seen that episode on star trek The Next Generation. The whole federation got taken over by those earwig things.

DrYongrel
05-09-2008, 06:26 PM
Oh shit!
http://media.threadless.com/product/493/view1.jpg

alaric
05-09-2008, 06:31 PM
why do our "supporters" insist on making chem trails and lizard people a part of the debate? can't we just fix the system and stop bring Ron Paul's name into shit we admit is seen as "kooky"?

IF at some point, a Ron Paul convert wants to look up chemtrails, fine... but stop saying "you're brainwashed cause you don't believe in chemtrails so vote Ron Paul before you get mind controlled by radio waves and Hiter!". what the fuck?

Even if it's real, it's sounds stupid!

sorry, chemtrails are real. they poison us. i got poisoned and it gave me, with a perfect heart, congestive heart failure @ 49 years old. its been downhill since then.:mad:

DrYongrel
05-09-2008, 06:37 PM
sorry, chemtrails are real. they poison us. i got poisoned and it gave me, with a perfect heart, congestive heart failure @ 49 years old. its been downhill since then.:mad:

Sorry for your health troubles.

It wasn't chemtrails.

Fields
05-09-2008, 06:48 PM
I personally don't know much nor believe in chemtrails. To me it's quackery. BUT, I am willing to listen and research; is there any good documentary or analysis of some sort, that someone can point me to?

gb13
05-09-2008, 07:00 PM
I personally don't know much nor believe in chemtrails. To me it's quackery. BUT, I am willing to listen and research; is there any good documentary or analysis of some sort, that someone can point me to?

The answer to your question is probably, "No."

PatriotOne
05-09-2008, 07:21 PM
I personally don't know much nor believe in chemtrails. To me it's quackery. BUT, I am willing to listen and research; is there any good documentary or analysis of some sort, that someone can point me to?


Tons of info on the net about chemtrails. Hard to tell you even where to start. Pictures and video's galore. Go to YouTube and search chemtrails. People take and post video's of the spraying all the time. Clifford Carnicom is a respected researcher and gatherer of information on the subject if you are scientfically minded.

yongrel
05-09-2008, 07:34 PM
Tons of info on the net about chemtrails. Hard to tell you even where to start. Pictures and video's galore. Go to YouTube and search chemtrails. People take and post video's of the spraying all the time. Clifford Carnicom is a respected researcher and gatherer of information on the subject if you are scientfically minded.

Tons of bad info. Tons of pictures of water vapor jet contrails and videos of tiny planes in the sky.

Cliff Carnicom is a cornball.

dannno
05-09-2008, 07:41 PM
I personally don't know much nor believe in chemtrails. To me it's quackery. BUT, I am willing to listen and research; is there any good documentary or analysis of some sort, that someone can point me to?

First thing you have to realize is that Britain's government has already admitted to chemtrailing over a period of decades.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Ok, so all those people who say it's not practical to spray chemicals out the engines like that, or that it is impossible are clearly wrong.

The question is, is OUR government doing it?

The answer is yes, but you will want to check that out for yourself. I recommend visiting the hot topics forum, there's probably a lot of good info there.

If you go to youtube, there are about 5 or 6 reports on chemtrails done by local news stations around the country (and also germany), you definetely want to hit up those.


Here's a couple of videos

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407&q=aerosol+crimes&ei=hFIPSLWZLouWrgKy0-GeBA&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1332178607299698024&q=chem+trails+site%3Avideo.google.com&total=224&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

tpreitzel
05-09-2008, 08:23 PM
Can't you people live and let live? Personally, I believe in all kinds of conspiracies because there is evidence for them. However, I don't feel compelled to force someone else to adopt my views willy nilly. They can investigate the issues for themselves if they want. Also, I can't stand someone telling another person who HAS investigated the more controversial issues to shut up. Folks, learn to live your own life. If someone who supports Paul wants to speak about these issues, let him speak. However, that individual should make it clear that he's NOT necessarily speaking for Ron Paul or his supporters. Good grief. I can hear Billy Preston's song, Will it Go Round In Circles?, every time this subject is raised.

amy31416
05-09-2008, 08:29 PM
The biggest and only problem I have with conspiracy theorists is that they try to shove it down your throat like religious missionaries. And it has just as much substance as a lot of religious dogma.

revolutionary8
05-09-2008, 09:20 PM
Can't you people live and let live? Personally, I believe in all kinds of conspiracies because there is evidence for them. However, I don't feel compelled to force someone else to adopt my views willy nilly. They can investigate the issues for themselves if they want. Also, I can't stand someone telling another person who HAS investigated the more controversial issues to shut up. Folks, learn to live your own life. If someone who supports Paul wants to speak about these issues, let him speak. However, that individual should make it clear that he's NOT necessarily speaking for Ron Paul or his supporters. Good grief. I can hear Billy Preston's song, Will it Go Round In Circles?, every time this subject is raised.

With people that you associate with on a superficial level, this is possible, as long as the relationship doesn't evolve.
With people that you know and love, this is impossible. How could I not tell the people I love about the fluoride in the water, the toxic vaccines, the fact that we have a history of false flag terror, to invest in gold, and get out of debt?
Unfortunately, to some the above is ALL Conspiracy Theory.

What kind of friend would I be if I didn't tell them that? Certainly not a real friend.

If the author of the article has a certain audience that he speaks to, that he considers "friends", that have common interests and ideals, what is wrong with that? It's free speech. It is something I would fight for.

Gosh, I cringe whenever I see someone mention UFOs, but I am telling you - people really believe in that stuff, so more power to them. At least they believe that the funky looking spacecraft flying overhead is something.