The Lantern
05-09-2008, 11:36 AM
Message from the Fred Thompson Forum
Dear Fellow FredHead
Since Fred is no longer running for President, it is our duty to support the Republican nominee John McCain.
Please show your support and join us at the John McCain Forum http://johnmccainforum.com
A Patriotic FredHead
slacker921
05-09-2008, 11:40 AM
I bet there aren't any discussions about 9/11, NAU, or chemtrails on that forum.
Please 4chan.. go have some fun there.
Penners
05-09-2008, 01:27 PM
Ok... I checked it out and just laughed. Looks like any "unMcCain" threads get shifted immediately. Those poor bastards just don't have a clue.... I'll bet Zeitgeist or Endgame would just blow their collective minds.
belian78
05-09-2008, 01:57 PM
this isnt ron paul grassroots material, i think it should be moved.
SWATH
05-09-2008, 02:08 PM
Wow, it looks like Pastor Parsley is already a member over there. I guess to clarify some of his positions on Crusade.
frasu
05-09-2008, 02:20 PM
the mccain forum shows us love:
admin:
People that are voting for Ron Paul are thiefs and maliciously misusing there votes. They should be ashamed!!! They are a threat to democracy and freedom and have no right voting for him.
:rolleyes:
source (http://johnmccainforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27)
rpfan2008
05-09-2008, 02:35 PM
hreads: 24, Posts: 125, Members: 23, Active Members: 23
Welcome to our newest member, Professor
HAHAHA
another RPForums colony
JMann
05-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Who is Fred Thompson? Seems like I remember an old actor that played a racist on TV (Wiseguy) with that name. Did he do something politically significant recently?
BTW I mean he played an actual racist by definition not someone that held prejudice or was a bigot. Unlike most media people I'm trying to use the word racist in the proper context. He actually thought his race was superior to others, not that he just didn't like people of another race which seems to be the meaning of the word post 1984.
mkeller
05-09-2008, 03:32 PM
How could you find that announcement on the Fred Thompson forum? The Fred Forum looks like it's been trashed by spammers so thoroughly, that you couldn't find anything on there.
And the John McCain forum is a scream! (the Giuliani and Huckabee ones were good, too)
The Lantern
05-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Who is Fred Thompson? Seems like I remember an old actor that played a racist on TV (Wiseguy) with that name. Did he do something politically significant recently?
BTW I mean he played an actual racist by definition not someone that held prejudice or was a bigot. Unlike most media people I'm trying to use the word racist in the proper context. He actually thought his race was superior to others, not that he just didn't like people of another race which seems to be the meaning of the word post 1984.
I don't think his character, Knox Pooley, was a racist. He was a salesman. He just spouted out all that racist crap to make a buck. Or maybe that was just an excuse to get off the hook.
I don't think Fred Thompson has ever done anything politically significant. However he did inspire this classic youtube video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JgtLrQijdxo
My Johnson is for Thompson.
The Lantern
05-09-2008, 04:01 PM
How could you find that announcement on the Fred Thompson forum? The Fred Forum looks like it's been trashed by spammers so thoroughly, that you couldn't find anything on there.
I used to subscribe to the Fred Thompson forum. They sent me an email.
Magicman
05-09-2008, 04:55 PM
You want to destroy Mccain on the Fred Thompson Forums send all their members this information. Put as a headline Mccain Appeasing Radical Leftist Extremists La Raza:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/05/politics/horserace/entry4072810.shtml
05-06-2008
WASHINGTON – Sen. John McCain, the de facto Republican presidential nominee, announced today he will attend the national convention of La Raza, a radical Hispanic lobby tied to the movement to reconquer the Southwestern U.S. that was part of Mexico before the Mexican-American War that ended in 1848.
The convention will be held in San Diego July 14.
Though La Raza bills itself as a civil rights organization, the group’s name literally means "The Race."
La Raza was condemned in 2006 by Rep. Charles Norwood, R-Ga., as a radical "pro-illegal immigration lobbying organization that supports racist groups calling for the secession of the western United States as a Hispanic-only homeland."
Norwood has called on La Raza to renounce its support of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan – which sees "The Race" as part of an ethnic group that one day will reclaim Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs. In Chicano folklore, Aztlan includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas.
McCain, who steadfastly opposed efforts to build a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border and supported legislation to permit illegal aliens to remain in the U.S., also announced the launch of his campaign’s Spanish language website.
The announcements came on Cinco de Mayo, the day commemorating an 1862 battle fought by Mexican troops.
"Today, we join together to remember the sacrifice that these Mexican patriots endured, as well as the struggles of all those around the world striving for freedom," said McCain in the statement. "We recognize as well the important friendship that exists between our country and Mexico, and celebrate the many contributions Mexican-Americans have made to our society, culture, security and economy."
McCain Launches Spanish Web Site, Will Speak To La Raza
May 5 2008
It’s Cinco de Mayo, and John McCain’s campaign has chosen the Mexican holiday to launch a Spanish-language version of its Web site.
The site features a Spanish-language ad for McCain and trumpets the phrase "Estamos Unidos Con McCain" – which translates to "We Are United With McCain."
As USA Today notes, McCain was asked today if Republicans will be damaged in November by the hard line many in the party took on immigration. McCain himself took a more moderate position in line with President Bush.
"The tenor of the debate has harmed our image among Hispanics," McCain acknowledged. The McCain campaign also released a statement today commemorating Cinco de Mayo and stating that "we join together to remember the sacrifice that these Mexican patriots [at the the Battle of Puebla] endured."
In related news, McCain announced today that he will address La Raza, a liberal-leaning Latino group, in July. Politico’s Jonathan Martin suggests that McCain is "trying to show that he’s not George W. Bush by going into the lion’s den and taking hostile, unscripted questions from adversarial groups." The McCain campaign says the candidate is scheduling the stop "as part of his commitment to talking with all Americans."
More on the racist ties of the Council of La Raza to its subsidiaries.
10. La Raza supports driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.
9. La Raza supports in-state tuition discounts for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding US citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.
8. La Raza opposes cooperative immigration enforcement efforts between local, state, and federal authorities.
7. La Raza sponsors militant ethnic nationalist charter schools subsidized by your public tax dollars, including the “Aztlan Academy” in Tucson, AZ, the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, AZ, and Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn.
6. La Raza gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), which the late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood rightly characterized as “a radical racist group…[and] one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.”
5. La Raza opposes a secure fence on the southern border.
4. Former La Raza president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach advisor said this:
“US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to US English the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States.
La Raza also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”
3. La Raza is currently leading a smear campaign against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable TV networks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves–in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes.
2. La Raza has consistently opposed post-9/11 national security measures at every turn.
1. The National Council of La Raza means The National Council of “The Race,” for God’s sake.
The Council of La Raza has ties to the Mecha and does not disassociate itself from it.
Racist, racist, racist. That's what I hear from those opposed to America enforcing its immigration laws. Americans who want orderly immigration are simply racist they say. Who are behind these cries of racism though? I'm sure after hearing this for many, many years - from those behind the illegal immigration movement and those who put the marches together through our streets - there are some Americans who think those opposed to illegal aliens and illegal immigration are all connected in some sort of cabal or joint racist organizations headed up by Nazi's and white supremacists.
Of course if this were true it would be on the front page of every Liberal paper in this country. For most of these Liberal media operations are in favor of illegal immigration and amnesty for those already here.
Before you jump the gun and start believing what you hear repeated over and over let's take a little examination of the groups behind this slanderous language. There is an article in Human Events that sums it up pretty well and exposes the groups behind the marches and the calls of racism.
It is past time for all Americans to know what is at the root of this outrageous behavior, and the extent to which the nation is at risk because of "La Raza" -- The Race.
There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall "La Raza" movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza -- the Council of "The Race".
To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.
But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.
The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.
That's right, US taxpayers are behind the funding of these marches through our streets. The government has wrongly given these organizations monies based on false claims and it was then turned around and used to circumvent our laws and to influence our policy.
"Well, those statements above aren't racist at all, maybe it's some fraudulent behavior but it's not racism, so what are you getting at Digger?" you might ask. Well here's your answer.
The section on MEChA - an organizer of the marches through our streets.
Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.
One of America's greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.
This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:
"Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot...Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny." (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)
MEChA isn't at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan" (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):
"In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. ... Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."
That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: "For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing."
If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.
Mainstream racism, in your face...
So what does this have to do with La Raza?
Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.
Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza's Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza's 2002 Annual Convention.
The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.
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La Raza defenders usually respond by calling anyone making these allegations "a racist" for having called attention to La Raza's racist links.
So, the easiest way to fool the public into thinking that you are not a full fledged racist group is to accuse the other side of being racist.
If you didn't know before though, now you know.
The NCLR grew out of efforts to form a national civil rights organization that would advocate for Mexican Americans. In the early 1960s, the National Organization for Mexican American Services (NOMAS) persuaded the Ford Foundation to fund a study of Mexican Americans. The Foundation went further, hiring Herman Gallegos, Dr. Julian Samora, and Dr. Ernesto Galarza to consult with other leaders on ways to improve conditions for Mexican American communities. [2]
As a result of these discussions, Gallegos, Samora and Galarza founded the Southwest Council of La Raza (SWCLR) in Phoenix, Arizona, in 1968. Financial support from the Ford Foundation, the National Council of Churches, and the United Auto Workers allowed the SWCLR to get off the ground, and the organization received 501(c)(3) status later that year.[3]
In 1972, the SWCLR lost federal funding for refusing to endorse Richard Nixon during his reelection campaign.[2]
Denounce and sever all ties with MEChA and any other organizations with which they are now or have ever been associated or funded which held to the racist doctrines published by MEChA. 2. Denounce the statement "Por La Raza todo [sic]. Fuera de La Raza nada" [“For the race everything, outside the race nothing”] as repugnant, racist, and totally incompatible with American society or citizenship.
Hey, why don't you do some actual research instead of look up a wikipedia article. Let's see the organization rewards illegal and criminal behavior as well as supremacism. Just like white power groups standing together claiming they are nationalistic not racist.
10. La Raza supports driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.
9. La Raza supports in-state tuition discounts for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding US citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.
8. La Raza opposes cooperative immigration enforcement efforts between local, state, and federal authorities.
7. La Raza sponsors militant ethnic nationalist charter schools subsidized by your public tax dollars, including the “Aztlan Academy” in Tucson, AZ, the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, AZ, and Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn.
6. La Raza gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), which the late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood rightly characterized as “a radical racist group…[and] one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.”
5. La Raza opposes a secure fence on the southern border.
4. Former La Raza president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach advisor said this:
“US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to US English the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States.
La Raza also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”
3. La Raza is currently leading a smear campaign against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable TV networks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves–in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes.
2. La Raza has consistently opposed post-9/11 national security measures at every turn.
1. The National Council of La Raza means The National Council of “The Race,” for God’s sake.
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