THIS should put an end to the occasional Obama talk around here

[freelance]

For you people who think that Obama is the second coming, please read this:

http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-on-barack-obama-s2433-global.html

I have NOT had time to verify the links, nor to really check into this source. I put it up in case anyone else has any additional info they'd like to share. I don't have time to research it right now.

ENJOY...

[evilfunnystuff]

For you people who think that Obama is the second coming, please read this:

http://kilosparksitup.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-on-barack-obama-s2433-global.html

I have NOT had time to verify the links, nor to really check into this source. I put it up in case anyone else has any additional info they'd like to share. I don't have time to research it right now.

ENJOY...

seems like an awful strong title for a story you have not had time to verify links and sources for.

not tryin to be nasty here but you should have thought out your post a little more.

jmho

[freedom-maniac]

Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

[aravoth]

Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[LittleLightShining]

You have got to be fucking kidding me.+9000

[evilfunnystuff]

Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

obama would b no better than the other msm candidates even if he does pull us out eventualy he will just be moving them somewhere else.

how about researching all the candidates running and supporting who's policies and actions most closely represent your own.

[RideTheDirt]

Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

+Socialism:rolleyes:

[mdh]

I don't understand how anyone who could claim to support what Ron Paul stands for would ever consider supporting or even voting for Obama. Obama is one of them, a part of the establishment that is destroying this nation.

[freedom-maniac]

+Socialism:rolleyes:

+ socialism with McCain...and 100 years in Iraq.

[ItsTime]

LMAO man thats funny. Obama HIMSELF said the troops will not be out by 2012


Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

[mdh]

+Socialism:rolleyes:

Not that McCain isn't a socialist gun grabber. The fact is that all three of the establishment candidates are socialists, gun grabbers, and pro-war. Any of them will gladly jump into war with Iran or Pakistan or Syria or whoever else.

[freedom-maniac]

I don't understand how anyone who could claim to support what Ron Paul stands for would ever consider supporting or even voting for Obama. Obama is one of them, a part of the establishment that is destroying this nation.

I'm not saying that we should, especially if we're in a state that is clearly going to be won by Mac or Obama in the general election.

However, if you are in a swing state, I think you should vote for Obama in the general election to keep McCain out of the White House.

[mdh]

Fine then. Don't support Obama and end up with McCain and 100 years in Iraq, vs. just 2 or 3 more with Obama.

I can't believe anyone here can be so naive. Wow.

[Nirvikalpa]

You have got to be fucking kidding me.


I can't believe anyone here can be so naive. Wow.

QFT.

[freedom-maniac]

obama would b no better than the other msm candidates even if he does pull us out eventualy he will just be moving them somewhere else.

how about researching all the candidates running and supporting who's policies and actions most closely represent your own.

Ron Paul himself even said that Obama was slightly better than Hillary or McCain.

He won't pull out immediatley like Dr. Paul would, but he will be out with in the next few years (his campaign advisors say that if he's elected that the troops would be home around 2010).

I'm not saying I like Obama or anything, but we have to seriously except the fact that he is the least-bad option, and if we don't, we'll be seeing our country brought to ruin by McCain much faster than it would be by Obama.

Besides, once Obama's in office people will see his message is a fraud, and that neo-cons (McCain) can't win the White House, and it will bring many more to Dr. Paul's side.

[ItsTime]

"You have been lied to" Ron Paul The Revolution: A Manifesto

[UnReconstructed]

ht tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

[freedom-maniac]

I can't believe anyone here can be so naive. Wow.

I'm not naive. I know Obama will continue the war, but just not as long as McCain would.

Ron Paul even said on CNN that Obama is slightly better than McCain on foreign policy. I guess Dr. Paul must be so naive as well.

[mdh]

I'm not saying that we should, especially if we're in a state that is clearly going to be won by Mac or Obama in the general election.

However, if you are in a swing state, I think you should vote for Obama in the general election to keep McCain out of the White House.

Let me be clear about two very simple facts here.

McCain and Obama are owned by the same interests. These include the MIC.

While the rhetoric may vary a bit during the election season, the actions taken while in office would be 100% identical.

There are no substantive policy differences. Neither of them write their own policies or even have a major say in what their own actions/decisions will be when in office. Their statements and their actions are handed down to them by higher powers.

[mdh]

I'm not naive. I know Obama will continue the war, but just not as long as McCain would.

Ron Paul even said on CNN that Obama is slightly better than McCain on foreign policy. I guess Dr. Paul must be so naive as well.

If you're not yet aware that Dr. Paul can be naive, I don't know what to tell you. Go spend some time over on thirdpartywatch and meet one Mr. Eric Dondero. You'll get the picture fast once you realize that Ron Paul hired this guy.

[freedom-maniac]

"You have been lied to" Ron Paul The Revolution: A Manifesto

That is true. I hate when I hear sheeple talking about how Hillary and Obama will end the war right away. I try to explain it to them, but alas, they are sheep.

When I hear Obama say he's going to end the war right away, I know it's a lie. But when you investigate the deeper parts of his policy, you find that he will end it EDVENTUALLY, versus continuing it PERPETUALLY like McCain.

Besides that, there is not much difference between the two.

[pcosmar]

I don't understand how anyone who could claim to support what Ron Paul stands for would ever consider supporting or even voting for Obama. Obama is one of them, a part of the establishment that is destroying this nation.

I think a lot of people came here because Ron Paul was against the War.
Most of the country is opposed to the War, and will vote for any lier that says what they want to hear.

I want us out of Iraq too, but I can not support someone that is just using that as a step into more power.
Ron Paul's long record is what sold me.

[ItsTime]

Slightly better as in. Here you can have this bowl of ape shit to eat or you can have this slightly better bowl of ape shit to eat with chocolate sprinkles.


I'm not naive. I know Obama will continue the war, but just not as long as McCain would.

Ron Paul even said on CNN that Obama is slightly better than McCain on foreign policy. I guess Dr. Paul must be so naive as well.

[freedom-maniac]

Fine then. Stick to your beliefs, but I don't want to hear any of you complain one bit if McCain wins the White House.

[ItsTime]

what do you not get we are going to be complaining no matter who gets into office because THEY ARE THE SAME.


Fine then. Stick to your beliefs, but I don't want to hear any of you complain one bit if McCain wins the White House.

[mdh]

Fine then. Stick to your beliefs, but I don't want to hear any of you complain one bit if McCain wins the White House.

There.

Is.

No.

Substantive.

Difference.

Between.

McCain.

And.

Obama.


I will not complain, I will continue promoting liberty, and candidates who will work for liberty!

It is our duty as citizens to vote for the candidate who best reflects our values, regardless of party. If no reasonable candidate exists, we should run ourselves! Whomever the LP selects will be better than any of these three by miles and miles, and Chuck Baldwin is already on the CP ticket.

[freelance]

Good, well this did exactly what I thought it would. It started the discussion again. I WILL research it, and I'll get back to you guys. I was grubby from the garden, and I just couldn't stand not taking shower, but I had to post this in the hopes that you guys would look at it. Since no one did, I'll do it after dinner.

[AmericaFyeah92]

Obama's slightly better foreign policy positions are cancelled out by his socialistic agenda at home, so its a wash

[RideTheDirt]

It is our duty as citizens to vote for the candidate who best reflects our values, regardless of party.

QFT

Because party values or morals obviously don't mean shit the the Grand Ol' party or the Socialist Democrats

on another note the song grand ol' party crash by Cage is a good song about how the GOP portrays itself

"M16 locked loaded and spittin' properly, whoever's in the line of fire is full of democracy"

[freelance]

As promised:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c110RzF44W::


(4) MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS- The term `Millennium Development Goals' means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).

Lovely!

I would never vote for this guy. Did you hear his wife say that our "souls are broken," and "Obama would never let us rest until we repaired our souls." Then she went on to describe how we were all going to have "to work," whatever that means. And, she said that "we would have to leave our comfort zones." Where does the Constitution say that a President is supposed to push us out of our comfort zones?

This whole messianic voodoo surrounding Obama is just plain spooky! I want no part of it.

[AmericaFyeah92]

As promised:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c110RzF44W::


This whole messianic voodoo surrounding Obama is just plain spooky! I want no part of it.

He has a cult of personality. No doubt about it.

And im not trying to overblow things, but his "lets come together"/"unity"/"change"/"fairness" rhetoric is very reminescent of the rhetoric used by Fascists early in the last century.

Seriously, pull up an early speech by Mussolini and compare it to Obamas.

[satchelmcqueen]

i can barely afford to drive to work now thanks to gas prices, food prices, energy bills blah blah...and now we might have to help end poverty around the world? how about around the STATES FIRST?

[Conza88]

Fine then. Stick to your beliefs, but I don't want to hear any of you complain one bit if McCain wins the White House.

You sir, are delusional if you think for even ONE second, that McCain has any chance in hell of making the presidency.

Pardon my French.. YOU call people sheep? HAHAH. My Gawd.. wake up and smell the roses you hypocrite.

Don't worry, I've been working on a video for awhile now - designed for people just like you. Hell, I'm going to put "Dedicated to Freedom-maniac and every other person, who votes for evil, no matter how small." In the side bar.

Your handle is a joke and should be changed. Freedom-maniac. Ohhh pleaseeee. You'd be voting for your very own oppression if you voted for Obama.

I was going to suggest my video comparison, but I think you know the difference. Go watch the links in the side bar then, and read the article.

</daily rant @ ignorance fulfilled?> :mad:

[DealzOnWheelz]

freedom-maniac?!?

Seriously Obama??

How many blue pills did you take?!?

[devil21]

Ron Paul himself even said that Obama was slightly better than Hillary or McCain.

My morning dump today smelled slightly better than yesterday's.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

My morning dump today smelled slightly better than yesterday's.

It should run for president. Seriously. Based on the "3 remaining candidates," it's probably qualified.

[werdd]

Realisticly someone is going to be president, and even though ill be voting LP this year, i think Hillary would be the best out of the possible 3. Hate mccain, hate obama even more.

Im always pissed about the outcome of politics...

[werdd]

Fine then. Stick to your beliefs, but I don't want to hear any of you complain one bit if McCain wins the White House.

We are staying in this war one way or another, the dems are just sugarcoating it to demogauge theirselves into the whitehouse.

[Aratus]

unless hillary is VERY lucky, unless 50 breaks go her way... its EITHER obama or mcain... if you listen to the pundits!

[LEK]

They are all the same.

Doesn't matter which of the three stooges you choose...you will get the same results.

Just different packaging so the populous thinks there is a choice. Quite ingenious actually - they've covered a good cross-section of the demographics.

Do you think it is by accident that McCain could categorically be labeled a Democrat considering his policies, etc.?

Ron Paul 2008!

[Conza88]

unless hillary is VERY lucky, unless 50 breaks go her way... its EITHER obama or mcain... if you listen to the pundits!

Mis-Info agents.. which is exactly why you don't listen to them, besides acknowledging the current days propaganda - and using it to your benefit..

The thing before super tuesday... People were saying Hillary had Nooooooooo Hope...

I told my whole family.. she's going to win. They couldn't understand it.. And what do you know... ALL the critics were wrong... and they trumpeted it as a MASSIVE come back.

Its not exactly hard... you've just got to put yourself in "their" shoes.. It was like 5 months to go? They were counting her out for good if she lost.. No way they'd let that happen.. the need the SIDE SHOW for 5 months, and they need it too continue..

It's got to remain entertaining. Anyway.. I am rambling..

McCain has no HOPE IN HELL, NONE - ZIP, I'd bet my life on it. There is no fken way the General Election public are going to accept another Republican in the White House... unless its Ron Paul. NO CHANCE.

He's the fall guy, the false opposition. Its the Dem's turn. Ron Paul is a PAIN in the ASS for them, he offers real opposition.

Which is why you see so much GOP opposition. :rolleyes:

[Mesogen]

Ron Paul should be a better judge of people than this.

He says he agrees a lot with Chuck Hagel, but Hagel voted for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act (now he says he's against both).

But Hagel is a co-sponsor of this bill, a bill that gives a whole lot of real power to the UN over the US.


"In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning 'small arms and light weapons' and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," he said.

All sounds noble doesn't it? Just give us complete control and all these problems will go away. Swear.