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nodope0695
05-06-2008, 09:39 PM
Here are the current numbers from Indiana and NC. What more proof do we need that our nation is populated my complete and total morons.

Indiana, 87% Reporting:

McCain 300,534 77%

Huckabee 39,192 10% --- WTF????

Paul 29,305 8%

Romney 18,526 5% --- WTF????


North Carolina, 97% Reporting:

McCain 371,955 74%

Huckabee 61,353 12% --- WTF????

Paul 36,480 7%

No Preference 19,657 4% --- WTF????

Could Huck's Army be voting in Protest? What about Romney? And what about that "no preference" vote in NC? Why even go vote if you're going to vote No Preference? I'm so over this primary season, and I'm over the entire "election" process as a whole. While the "Bad Man" will leave office on Jan 3, 2009, I'm afraid the damage has been irreversably done. He will be replaced by another Bad Man/Woman, and our spiral down into hell will continue. Good bye America...good bye freedom.

tonyr1988
05-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Could Huck's Army be voting in Protest? What about Romney? And what about that "no preference" vote in NC? Why even go vote if you're going to vote No Preference? I'm so over this primary season, and I'm over the entire "election" process as a whole. While the "Bad Man" will leave office on Jan 3, 2009, I'm afraid the damage has been irreversably done. He will be replaced by another Bad Man/Woman, and our spiral down into hell will continue. Good bye America...good bye freedom.

Yes, they are mainly protest votes.

The reason they even go vote is because they feel strongly enough against McCain that they are willing to vote for someone that has dropped out (or "No Preference") to show their dissatisfaction with their party's presumptive nominee.

We should use this towards our advantage.

OhioMichael
05-06-2008, 09:44 PM
LOL at No Preference getting nearly 20,000 votes in North Carolina! If you don't have a preference, why the hell did you vote?

Bradley in DC
05-06-2008, 09:46 PM
What more proof do we need that our nation is populated my complete and total morons.

Or at least those running the RP presidential campaign. :p

robmpreston
05-06-2008, 09:49 PM
LOL at No Preference getting nearly 20,000 votes in North Carolina! If you don't have a preference, why the hell did you vote?

Um, I would guess to send a message to the party.

MozoVote
05-06-2008, 09:52 PM
I'm glad "No Preference" was there. It's an embarrassment to the party for that to even be above 1%.

AJ Antimony
05-06-2008, 09:55 PM
The good news is that once more 20+% of Republican voters are so against McCain they are voting for impossible candidates.

Add that to the Republican sheep who are against McCain but nonetheless vote for him "with their noses plugged" and you'll have at least some optimism.

LibertiORDeth
05-06-2008, 09:55 PM
rated 5*! Why are hucky and romney even on the ballot??? That should be illegal!

pahs1994
05-06-2008, 09:58 PM
I think it is brilliant, every state should have "no preference" on the ballot. I have a feeling i would be voting for that quite a bit, especially where i live.

porcupine
05-06-2008, 09:58 PM
I keep on telling you all, there aren't enough of us to make a difference unless we UNITE in one place and join our efforts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xk40mkqNx4). It's the only way.

TER
05-06-2008, 10:02 PM
I have spent my entire life casting a protest vote, and voting for someone in order to help prevent another person from getting elected. This year, I finally found someone I truly want to vote for, and most of the country doesn't know about him or has shrugged him off because of the power of the MSM...

But on the flip side, America is waking up. Slowly, but surely, the people will wake up. Hopefully before we go completely broke or we find ourselves in another war.

rancher89
05-06-2008, 10:04 PM
Every vote for Huck , Romney or no preference was a protest vote. This sends a BIG message to the gop.

10 + to AJ, good point

Don't forget, there are other ballot issues, local elections, State, House and Congressional seats. These will bring voters out, even if they don't really want to vote for the "top" tier race......and since you are there, and you don't like mccain, and "your man" is on the ticket....

Huckabee and Keyes were on the NC ballot, there was probably an issue with when they dropped out in relation to their still being on the ballot, right mozo??

rancher89
05-06-2008, 10:05 PM
I have spent my entire life casting a protest vote, and voting for someone in order to help prevent another person from getting elected. This year, I finally found someone I truly want to vote for, and most of the country doesn't know about him or has shrugged him off because of the power of the MSM...

But on the flip side, America is waking up. Slowly, but surely, the people will wake up. Hopefully before we go completely broke or we find ourselves in another war.

+ 1776

billjarrett
05-06-2008, 10:05 PM
LOL at No Preference getting nearly 20,000 votes in North Carolina! If you don't have a preference, why the hell did you vote?

Maybe there were other things on the ballot? In my primary election, there were two heavily advertised referendums for the elementary school district.

flames2dust77
05-06-2008, 11:47 PM
I have spent my entire life casting a protest vote, and voting for someone in order to help prevent another person from getting elected. This year, I finally found someone I truly want to vote for, and most of the country doesn't know about him or has shrugged him off because of the power of the MSM...

But on the flip side, America is waking up. Slowly, but surely, the people will wake up. Hopefully before we go completely broke or we find ourselves in another war.

QFT

Remember people...slow but steady. You didn't expect to get our way this soon, did you? Look at how many people are voting AGAINST McCain;) We can't give up...I truly believe we are getting somehwere. Maybe in small baby steps...but they are small baby steps in the right direction:)

wowabunga
05-07-2008, 12:04 AM
I keep on telling you all, there aren't enough of us to make a difference unless we UNITE in one place and join our efforts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xk40mkqNx4). It's the only way.


Some silver lining success stories tell me we can make a huge difference in the summer months: Bless the Granny Warriors and their RV Effort.... amazing what a good crew and one RV can accomplish. Thanks to my pal John ( small business owner ) who simply wears his Ron Paul pin everyday... he says so many stop and ask him if Ron Paul is still in the race. Thumbs up to all the state elected delegates slopping thru their local GOP muck. Thanks to the folks who are putting together that "cat herding" website... we really need to pull together ( yea that strength in numbers deal ) and gain a collective enthusiasm and really get serious about waking up our neighbors. Oh I forgot about the dedicated family duo north of me ( dad laid off 5 times in 2 years... mom wants no part of the Iraq mess for her growing children ) as they on meager funds make their own DVD's and are determined themselves to wake up their economically ravished manufacturing town of 11,000 citizens.

From the top looking down, this John McCain candidate is not the best man for the job ( go figure ) so why are we in this mess ? One of the greats in the Advertising Hall of Fame, actually they call him the father of advertising, was fond of saying:


"Can advertising foist an inferior product on the consumer?
Bitter experience has taught me that it cannot. On those rare occasions when I have
advertised products which consumer tests have found inferior to other products
in the same field, the results have been disastrous." - David Ogilvy (Dove Soap ads)

Would you agree, that our "Boots on The Ground" grass roots campaign has no central plan, no hub, nor direction.

Hell folks we don't even have a grass roots central office... maybe we do but heck if I know of it. Back in January I kept saying, "forget spending millions on ads as the exposure would be superficial and would only line the pockets of those who aggressively wish for our demise" and rather it would be better to fund 3-4 grass roots campaign buses and criss cross the country. Take Best Buy stores and how they have a huge traveling "Game Zone" complete with huge beautiful tents and tech laden semi-rigs, and each weekend they are in a new town promoting their electronics business... why can't we do the same? Summer is full of festivals and large public events... otherwise who wants to painfully watch former candidates like Huck continue to tromp our collective ass week after week. It is the minds and hearts of the general public we've failed to reach, and will continue to fail to reach, without serious course remedy.

Another Hall of Famer Leo Clow (Apple's 1984 commercial) says: "I've never found a client's business problem that could be solved solely through advertising."

The kicker here is that we have a great product in our statesman Ron Paul... so our failure must be laid squarely on a lack of advertising. Ok so there we have it... we just need to advertise our great product, as well as promote the additional ground up candidates running for office Dr Paul's inspired. The answer is so simple... it's right there in front of our noses... advertise... like the Warriors do, so wear a pin daily like my pal John, make your own DVD's, hey how about our own hall-of-famer that guy with the 30 foot pole...!

It's the little things that all add up to big things. Last Tuesday at the Missouri State Capitol I handed out over 100 handmade fliers to 2 activist groups who held rallies that day on the steps and in the rotunda... VERY receptive to my home made fliers that makes sure the raw deal we're getting in Nevada is not buried by the MSN, and the real deal is known to my fellow activist friends. One of the gals with the bikers rights groups I made friends with said they can muster 3,000 riders if and when needed. Prior weekend I paid for a booth at Earth Day and the display was so "creative and down to earth" we had a continual stream of attendies standing around talking up a storm about politics. The same Local Earth Day promoters recently pulled together a collalition of 13 activists groups and had a 1,100 person "sit in for peace rally" here in central Missouri. 4 weeks ago at a huge yard sale outside of Saint Louis I made sure there were Ron Paul signs at the exits of the Six Flags parking lot... 5,000+ bargain shoppers had to stop at that stop sign and there was just no way they could miss the 2 bright blue Ron Paul signs.

The future is bright for anyone willing to do the work. As I've learned the hard way... if I fail to plan... I must also plan to fail. And one more quote from the advertising halls of fame ( the guy who put some well built American Tourister Luggage in a cage with a gorilla ), ad great Bill Bernbach was totally convinced and sold on the simple premise:


"Word of mouth is the best medium of all."


http://arewestillfree.com/pics/earthday2.JPEG

adam1mc
05-07-2008, 12:06 AM
Here are the current numbers from Indiana and NC. What more proof do we need that our nation is populated my complete and total morons.

Indiana, 87% Reporting:

McCain 300,534 77%

Huckabee 39,192 10% --- WTF????

Paul 29,305 8%

Romney 18,526 5% --- WTF????


North Carolina, 97% Reporting:

McCain 371,955 74%

Huckabee 61,353 12% --- WTF????

Paul 36,480 7%

No Preference 19,657 4% --- WTF????

Could Huck's Army be voting in Protest? What about Romney? And what about that "no preference" vote in NC? Why even go vote if you're going to vote No Preference? I'm so over this primary season, and I'm over the entire "election" process as a whole. While the "Bad Man" will leave office on Jan 3, 2009, I'm afraid the damage has been irreversably done. He will be replaced by another Bad Man/Woman, and our spiral down into hell will continue. Good bye America...good bye freedom.


I'm pissed and I've been :mad: all night

Knightskye
05-07-2008, 12:11 AM
I think it is brilliant, every state should have "no preference" on the ballot. I have a feeling i would be voting for that quite a bit, especially where i live.

That's sort of like what Jesse Ventura suggests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lUhVFpwhgE) - having "None of the above" on the ballot.

I think in one interview, he said it would get a higher percentage than the candidates running. :D

wowabunga
05-07-2008, 12:19 AM
I'm pissed and I've been :mad: all night

We all have our "threshold" where we get so steam'n mad that we are forced to make life choices to make our "tomorrow" a better place.

My breaking point was when I found out that the company that makes the Paul Revere skillets no longer make them in the USA. Go to a fancy store and on the back of a RevereWare skillet you'll see a silhouette of Paul Revere stamped into the metal of the skillet ( wearing his tri-fold patriot hat ) ... and you'll also see the words Made in The USA are sadly no longer to be found there. YES Dorthy... we don't manufacture much here in Kansas, or Connecticut or anywhere else matter of factly here in the once "good ole USA". And while I'm ranting... Sean Hannity and his "Great Americans" and his daily parroted "Prosperity Propaganda" can simply shove my foreign made 3 piece set of skillets right up his traitor ass.

A simple skillet showed me the light... can you believe it, some greasy little weasel actually sold out the name of Paul Revere for a few bucks more profit.
My WE are in deep deep do do. Yes I was/am pissed... have been that way since October. Bad new for the GOP is that I don't like to dwell in pity rather I'm "shake'n and wake'n" all my neighbors. Got no choice but to work and help educate the masses who lack internet savey and the abundance of truth which is found here.

Some entertaining truth for your tired ears...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORezvU12LWc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V9uxeQP6_w

.

Grandson of Liberty
05-07-2008, 01:17 AM
Glass half full results:

You could fill an NFL stadium with the Ron Paul voters from today alone. I don't have the figures on voters to date throughout the primaries, but I'm guessing it's a pretty dang good chunk of folks.

Remember folks, this is just the beginning. Stay on it. Don't ever give up.

wowabunga
05-07-2008, 01:38 AM
Glass half full results:

You could fill an NFL stadium with the Ron Paul voters from today alone. I don't have the figures on voters to date throughout the primaries, but I'm guessing it's a pretty dang good chunk of folks.

What existing networks can we use to reach these people....? What can we print and hand them when we bump into them... it needs to be something they can run over to the copy center and copy 100 copies themselves and keep the ball rolling.

Being a classic car collector ( '65 Rambler Wagon ) I know darn well that the hobbist who collect classic cars have been organized and well connected since the 1950's. The mecca of classics cars meets in PA in October with a attendance of 200,000 tinkerers, rebels, hot rodders, machinest, vendors and the average joe. It's my hope to hand out as many fliers as my laser printer will push out.

Please name some groups of citizens already networked.... off the top of my head... Shriners, VFW, NRA, Lions Club, etc...

libertarian4321
05-07-2008, 01:53 AM
LOL at No Preference getting nearly 20,000 votes in North Carolina! If you don't have a preference, why the hell did you vote?

Because there is more than one election to decide on the ballot.

We aren't just electing a President- when I voted in the Republican Primary, I must have had at least 20 primary contests to vote on- everything from congressman to district judge.

libertarian4321
05-07-2008, 01:54 AM
rated 5*! Why are hucky and romney even on the ballot??? That should be illegal!

Paper ballots were likely printed months ago.

dude58677
05-07-2008, 05:53 AM
I'm pissed and I've been :mad: all night

The BJ Lawson victory is exciting.

libertea
05-07-2008, 06:13 AM
Jesse Ventura said "None of the above" would win if it were on the ballot. I guess he was way off base.

Buffalo Bruce
05-07-2008, 07:20 AM
Huck's religious supporters also dislike McCains's liberal record but are still hooked on the war. The good Reverend stuck around long enough to get a good national address list of religious conservatives. We should expect his supporters to be well organized in four years and highly motivated after four years of socialism and religious slights.

libertea
05-07-2008, 07:35 AM
"No Preference" was treated very unfairly by the media.