Trilateral Commission alarmed that Dr. Paul is causing “significant future damage.”

[Thomas_Paine]

This is one of the biggest developments in the Ron Paul campaign. If you didn't already know The Revolution is working SO WELL it has the elite alarmed and in damage control mode. In this article by veteran Bilderberg reporter James P. Tucker Jr. gives the details of the agenda set at the TC meeting.

The elite have given the task of pressuring Ron Paul to DROP OUT, to Thomas Foley, North American Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (former Speaker of the House). This signals an all out assault, get ready for the pressure to go from bad to worse. If we are going to keep the movement alive we must do everything we can this summer to keep educating your fellow Americans.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_elite_gather_135.html

Please take the time to read the entire article, it is FILLED with valuable information that is deliberately hidden from the view of the general public.

[Perry]

Bump

[Liberty Rebellion]

They should be petrified. It's not only young people at Ron Paul rallies getting educated, but those young people, and other people of various ages and varying degrees of political education, are going out and spreading the message of liberty en masse. This is only the beginning...

[humanic]

Thanks for the article Thomas_Paine.

For those who do not know much about the Trilateral Commission, please take the time to read this as well:
The Trilateral Commission: Usurping Sovereignty (http://www.augustreview.com/issues/globalization/the_trilateral_commission:_usurping_sovereignty_20 07080373)

Note: Zbigniew Brzezinski is Obama's foreign policy advisor

“The Trilateral Commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power – political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical.”
- BARRY GOLDWATER, in his book With No Apologies (1979), p. 280

[rpfan2008]

"answer to 1984 is 1776" ...AJ

[Sarge]

I hope Dr. No remembers to say NO to Foley.

[SteveMartin]

Was the security detail all dismissed as well during the staff cutbacks?

[The One]

There are no sources for any of the information in the article.

[ItsTime]

:confused: ya some sources would be good (I did not even bother reading it when I saw this statement, its a waste of time with no sources)

But with that said; "No army can stop an idea whose time has come"


There are no sources for any of the information in the article.

[Aratus]

2012 = 2012 = 2012 = 2012 = 2012 = 2012 = 2012!!!

:Dthey forgot nader, evidently... and baldwin if not barr:)

[Feelgood]

I emailed RP some months ago, telling him that they would assassinate him, just as they assassinated Abe Lincoln. The only thing to slow it down, might be if he has a strong VP that is as Constitutionally minded as he is. Wanna bet we see items in the news before long, talking about how out dated the Constitution is, and how it may need to be replaced with a document that reflects current times?

[Thomas_Paine]

There are no sources for any of the information in the article.

This is an article by James Tucker who was THERE! How much closer to the source do you want?

[Knightskye]

I emailed RP some months ago, telling him that they would assassinate him, just as they assassinated Abe Lincoln.

Bad analogy. Lincoln was a tyrant. That sort of... contradicts the supposed aim of these "elite groups".

[Thomas_Paine]

In my opinion the elite will descend to any depth to stop this revolution, I would not be surprised if they pressure Ron Paul with treats of violence to his family, blackmail and all other assortments of dirty tricks. This is not a game, the powers of the establishment have been seriously threatened, the future is looking better for liberty and those who seek to totally enslave us will not stand for it. We need to prepare for the coming assault and expose this corrupt system to everyone we meet and know.

[Aratus]

they also expect the revolution to be the rEVOLUTIOn some four years hense!!!

[Thomas_Paine]

Bad analogy. Lincoln was a tyrant. That sort of... contradicts the supposed aim of these "elite groups".

I don't mean to take your comments out of context, but do you mean to say that the Trilateral Commission is not composed of elite members of society who set agendas for government and media?

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

I don't mean to take your comments out of context, but do you mean to say that the Trilateral Commission is not composed of elite members of society who set agendas for government and media?

Ya the TC is, but he was comparing Ron Paul to Lincoln, not the TC to Lincoln.

[JK/SEA]

They gotta do what they gotta do, and WE gotta do what we gotta do.

Screw em.

Keep at it boys and girls, this Revolution is just getting warmed up.

EX brother in law found out i was a RP delegate to State, and said " isn't RP kinda like Ross Perot?...i told him to stop watching FOX news and go online for your news. He is a BOEING worker here in Washington. The level of consciousness of whats going on in this country by its citizens is truly frightning. His eyes actually glazed over when i started to talk about the Constitution...sigh...i need more time with him, but i don't think i can break his matrix. The Union at BOEING, like most Unions support DEMS, so i'm fairly certain he takes that as his marching orders. Sad.


One by one, step by step.

[MS0453]

This is an article by James Tucker who was THERE! How much closer to the source do you want?

So this guy was at an uber elitist enclave and he's sharing secrets from said enclave, which consisted of people willing to do anything to achieve their goals. So exactly why haven't they killed him yet?

[Danke]

This is an article by James Tucker who was THERE! How much closer to the source do you want?

Isn't just a little hard to believe Tucker would be given such access? He has been hounding these groups for 30+ years.

[Aratus]

Danke... like its luck? intuitive timing... ??? whats it to you?

[Danke]

Danke... like its luck? intuitive timing... ??? whats it to you?

You know, I really never understand your posts.

[Thomas_Paine]

So this guy was at an uber elitist enclave and he's sharing secrets from said enclave, which consisted of people willing to do anything to achieve their goals. So exactly why haven't they killed him yet?

I can think of a few reason why the elite wouldn't kill Ron Paul. They have learned from history that killing a figurehead of a philosophy, of an idea, usually does not stop the philosophy or idea, in fact it can add more fuel to the fire. Making Ron Paul a martyr to a Constitutional Republic will make him an permanent icon for decades to come (think Che on roids). Not only that, but this movement is DECENTRALIZED, you can't decapitated it but killing a few guys, it would take a massive genocidal wave to get rid of the revolution. It would be much more advantageous to the elite to wage a propaganda war against this movement.

[Thomas_Paine]

Isn't just a little hard to believe Tucker would be given such access? He has been hounding these groups for 30+ years.

I suggest you look further into this before you seek to discredit Tucker.

[MS0453]

I can think of a few reason why the elite wouldn't kill Ron Paul. They have learned from history that killing a figurehead of a philosophy, of an idea, usually does not stop the philosophy or idea, in fact it can add more fuel to the fire. Making Ron Paul a martyr to a Constitutional Republic will make him an permanent icon for decades to come (think Che on roids). Not only that, but this movement is DECENTRALIZED, you can't decapitated it but killing a few guys, it would take a massive genocidal wave to get rid of the revolution. It would be much more advantageous to the elite to wage a propaganda war against this movement.

I'm talking about Tucker, who is also not a figurehead.

[RonPaulFever]

Sorry, but I call bullshit on this article.

[Danke]

I suggest you look further into this before you seek to discredit Tucker.

Well, besides that article and seeing him on "Endgame" How would one look further into this? Do we have photos of him sitting in on these meetings?

[humanic]

I suggest you look further into this before you seek to discredit Tucker.

Here's footage of some of his exploits:

AFP Interview (2.5 min):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPpH-WiaPQI

Jim Tucker and Daniel Estulin (http://www.danielestulin.com/?idioma=en) at Bilderberg 2006 (17 min combined)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivYKTAjgb5Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTMdjC0kqxc

Older BBC Documentary (48 min)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3725493129921826227

At Bilderberg 2007 (15 min)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2616928400972579533

[Fields]

You know, I really never understand your posts.

Finally someone agrees with me. He speaks in fragmented English, yet when you call him out, he speaks perfectly. I'm not sure what the reasoning is...

[Athan]

Well it was about time that we get around to start pissing on their plans anyway.
Lets just make sure Ron isn't the ONLY revolutionary educating others.

[rpfan2008]

David Rockefeller (CFR founder), page 405 of his 2002 book Memoirs: "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

[jglapski]

I emailed RP some months ago, telling him that they would assassinate him, just as they assassinated Abe Lincoln. The only thing to slow it down, might be if he has a strong VP that is as Constitutionally minded as he is. Wanna bet we see items in the news before long, talking about how out dated the Constitution is, and how it may need to be replaced with a document that reflects current times?

I'm pretty sure the TLC did not assassinate Lincoln.

[jglapski]

Bad analogy. Lincoln was a tyrant. That sort of... contradicts the supposed aim of these "elite groups".

Yes and no.

Lincoln did order the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed millions from slavery. That's the opposite of tyranny.

I agree with your view on his suspending habeas corpus and other rights, however.

[MS0453]

David Rockefeller (CFR founder), page 405 of his 2002 book Memoirs: "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

David Rockefeller, Sr. Born: June 12th, 1915

Council on Foreign Relations: Formed 1921

Very impressive considering I didn't even start my own world domination front group until I was 12.

[aravoth]

David Rockefeller, Sr. Born: June 12th, 1915

Council on Foreign Relations: Formed 1921

Very impressive considering I didn't even start my own world domination front group until I was 12.

He did have a father you know.

[Fields]

creeeeepy crawlersssssssss!

[Thomas_Paine]

The Trilateral Commission: North American Group 2008

TRILATERAL COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

Thomas S. Foley North American Chairman
Peter Sutherland European Chairman
Yotaro Kobayashi Pacific Asia Chairman
Allan E. Gotlieb North American Deputy Chairman
Herve De Carmoy European Deputy Chairman
Han Sung-Joo Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman
Lorenzo H. Zamibrano North American Deputy Chairman
Ainijrzej Olechowski European Deputy Chairman
Shijuro Ogata Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman
David Rockefeller Founder And Honorary Chairman
Paul A. Volcker North American Honorary Chairman
Georges Berthoin Chairman European Honorary
Otto Graf Lambsdorf European Honorary Chairman
Michael J. O’Neil North American Director
Paul Revay European Director
Tadashi Yamamoto Pacific Asia Director

NORTH AMERICAN GROUP

Madeleine K Albright The Albright Group LLC Washington, D.C.
Graham Allison Kennedy School of Government, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Richard L. Armitage Armitage International Washington, D.C.
James L. Balsillie Co-Chief Exec. Officer, Research in Motion Waterloo, Ontario
Charlene Barshefsky Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering Washington, D.C.
Alan R. Batkin Eton Park Capital Management New York, N.Y.
Lael Brainard The Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
Doug Bereuter The Asia Foundation San Francisco.
C. Fred Bergsten Peterson Institute for Int’l Economics Washington, D.C.
Catherine Bertini Syracuse University Syracuse, N.Y.
Robert D. Blackwill Former Deputy Asst, to the President Washington D.C.
Dennis Blair, USN (Ret.) Institute for Defense Analyses Alexandria, Va.
H. Blanco Mendoza Private Office of Herminio Blanco Mexico City
Stephen W. Bosworth Dean, Tufts University Medford, Mass.
David G. Bradley Atlantic Media Company Washington, D.C.
Harold Brown Center for Strategic and Int’l Studies Washington, D.C.
Zbigniew Brzezinski Center for Strategic and Int’l Studies Washington, D.C.
Sylvia Mathews Burwell President Global Development Program Hinton, WV
Louis C. Camilleri Altria Group, Inc New York, N.Y.
Kurt Campbell CEO Center New American Security Washington, D.C.
Raymond Chrétien Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP Montreal, Quebec
William T. Coleman III Cassatt Corporation San Jose, Calif.
Timothy C. Collins Ripplewood Holdings New York, N.Y.
Richard N. Cooper Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
F. Gerald Corrigan Goldman, Sachs & Co. New York, N.Y.
Michael J. Critelli Pitney Bowes Inc. Stamford, Conn.
Lee Cullum “NewsHour with Jim Lehrer,” Dallas, Texas
H. Lawrence Culp, Jr CEO of Danaher Washington, D.C.
Gerald L. Curtis Columbia University New York, N.Y.
Douglas Daft The Coca Cola Company Atlanta, Ga.
Lynn Davis The RAND Corporation Arlington, Va.
Arthur A. DeFehr Palliser Furniture Winnipeg
André Desmarais Power Corporation of Canada Montréal, Quebec
John M. Deutch Mass. Institute of Technology Cambridge, Mass.
Jamie Dimon JP Morgan Chase & Co. New York, N.Y.
Peter C. Dobell Parliamentary Centre Ottawa, Ontario
Wendy K Dobson University of Toronto Toronto
Kenneth M. Duberstein The Duberstein Group Washington, D.C.
Robert Eckert Mattel, Inc. El Segundo, Calif.
Jessica P. Einhorn The Johns Hopkins University Washington, D.C.
Jeffrey Epstein J. Epstein & Company, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Dianne Feinstein U.S. Senate (D-Calif.) Washington, D.C.
Martin S. Feldstein Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
Roger W. Ferguson, Jr. Swiss Re America Holding Corp. Washington, D.C.
Stanley Fischer Bank of Israel; frmr president, Citigroup New York, N.Y.
Richard W. Fisher Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas Dallas, Texas
Thomas S. Foley Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld Washington, D.C.
Kristin J. Forbes Associate Prof. of Int’l Management Cambridge Mass.
Michael B.G. Froman Citigroup Inc. New York, N.Y.
Francis Fukuyama The Johns Hopkins University Washington, D.C.
Dionisio Garza Medina ALFA Mexico
Richard A. Gephardt Former member House of Reps. (D-Mo.) Washington, D.C.
David Gergen Harvard; Editor, USN&WR Cambridge, Mass.
Peter C. Godsoe Scotiabank (ret.) Toronto, Ontario
Allan E. Gotlieb Bennett Jones LLP Toronto, Ontario
Bill Graham Canadian House of Commons Ottawa, Ontario
Donald E. Graham CEO of The Washington Post Company Washington, D.C.
Jeffrey W. Greenberg Aquiline Capital Partners, LLC New York, N.Y.
Richard N. Haass President, Council on Foreign Relations New York, N.Y.
James T. Hackett Anadarko Petroleum Corp. Texas
John J. Hamre Center for Strategic and Int’l Studies Washington, D.C.
William A. Haseltine Haseltine Global Health, LLC Washington, D.C.
Richard F. Haskayne University of Calgary Alberta
Charles B. Heck Senior Adviser, Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
Carlos Heredia International Affairs Mexico
Carla A. Hills Hills & Company, Int’l Consultants Washington, D.C.
Richard Holbrooke Perseus LLC New York, N.Y.
Karen Elliott House Dow Jones & Co. & Wall Street Journal Princeton, N.J.
Alej. Junco de la Vega Grupo Reforma Monterrey, Mexico
Robert Kagan Carnegie Endowment for Int’l Peace Washington, D.C.
Arnold Kanter The Scowcroft Group Washington, D.C.
Charles R. Kaye Warburg Pincus LLC New York, N.Y.
James Kimsey Founding CEO of AOL Washington, D.C.
Michael Klein Citigroup Inc. New York, N.Y.
Steven E. Koonin British Petroleum London
Enrique Krauze Editorial Clio Libros y Videos, S.A. de C.V. Mexico City
Robert Lane Deere & Company Moline, Ill.
Fred Langhammer The Estee Lauder Companies, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Jim Leach Former U.S. Representative (R-IA) Washington, D.C.
Gerald M. Levin AOL Time Warner, Inc. New York, N.Y.
Winston Lord International Rescue Committee New York, N.Y.
E. Peter Lougheed Bennett Jones, Banisters & Solicitors Calgary, Alberta
Roy MacLaren Former High Commissioner to the UK Toronto, Ontario
John A. MacNaughton Frmr CEO Canada Pension Plan Invest. Brd Toronto, Ontario
Antonio Madero San Luis Corporacion, S.A. de C.V. Mexico
John Manley McCarthy Tétrault LLP Ottawa, Ontario
Sir Deryck C. Maughan KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. New York, N.Y.
Jay Mazur Union of Needletrades, Textile Employees New York, N.Y.
James Moore Canadian Parliament Ottawa, Ontario
Marc H. Morial National Urban League New York, N.Y.
Heather Munroe-Blum McGill University Montreal, Quebed
Brian Mulroney Ogilvy Renault Montréal, Quebec
Indra K. Nooyi PepsiCo, Inc. Purchase, N.Y.
Joseph S. Nye, Jr. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
David J. O’Reilly Chevron Corporation San Ramon, Calif.
Meghan O’Sullivan Former Deputy National Security Adviser Washington, D.C.
Richard N. Perle American Enterprise Institute Washington, D.C.
Thomas R. Pickering Consultant, The Boeing Company Arlington, Va.
Martha C. Piper The University of British Columbia Vancouver, B.C.
Richard Plepler Executive Vice President, HBO New York, N.Y.
Joe Ralston, USAF (Ret) The Cohen Group Washington, D.C.
Charles B. Rangel U.S. House of Representatives (D-N.Y.) Washington, D.C.
Susan Rice Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
Hartley Richardson James Richardson & Sons, Ltd. Winnipeg, Manitoba
Joseph E. Robert, Jr. J.E. Robert Companies McLean, Va.
John D. Rockefeller IV U.S. Senate (D-W.V.) Washington, D.C.
Kenneth Rogoff Center for Int’l Development, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Charles Rose The Charlie Rose Show, PBS New York, N.Y.
Irene B. Rosenfeld CEO Kraft Foods Northfield, Ill
Dennis Ross Ambassador Counselor and Ziegler Washington, D.C.
David M. Rubenstein The Carlyle Group Washington, D.C.
Luis Rubio Center of Research for Development Mexico City, Mexico
Arthur F. Ryan Prudential Financial, Inc. Newark, N.J.
Jaime Serra SAI Consulting Mexico City, Mexico
Dinakar Singh TPG-Axon Capital New York, N.Y.
Anne-Marie Slaughter Princeton University Princeton, N.J.
Gordon Smith Centre for Global Studies, U. of Victoria Victoria, B.C.
Donald R. Sobey Empire Company Ltd. Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ronald D. Southern ATCO Group Calgary, Alberta
James B. Steinberg LBJ School of Public Affairs, U. of Texas Austin, Texas
Jessica Stern Program on Terrorism & the Law, Harvard Cambridge, Mass.
Barbara Stymiest RBC Financial Group Toronto, Ontario
Lawrence H. Summers Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.
John J. Sweeney AFL-CIO Washington, D.C.
Strobe Talbott The Brookings Institution Washington, D.C.
George J. Tenet Georgetown Univ., former CIA Director Washington, D.C.
John Thain New York Stock Exchange, Inc. New York, N.Y.
G. Richard Thoman Columbia University New York, N.Y.
Paul A. Volcker Wolfensohn & Co., Inc., frmr Fed. Res. Chair.New York, N.Y.
William H. Webster Former CIA Director Washington, D.C.
Fareed Zakaria Newsweek International New York, N.Y.
Lorenzo H. Zambrano CEMEX Monterey, Mexico
Ernesto Zedillo Former president of Mexico; Yale Univ. New Haven, Conn.
Mortimer B. Zuckerman Chairman, U.S. News & World Report New York, N.Y.
William T. Coleman, Jr. Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
Henry A. Kissinger Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission Washington, D.C.
Robert S. McNamara Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission,
frmr pres., World Bank; frmr sec.of Defense; frmr pres., Ford Motor. Washington, D.C.
David Rockefeller Founder, Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Comm. New York, N.Y.

NEW TRILATERAL MEMBERS ATTENDING FROM EUROPE

Patricia Barbizet CEO Artemis Group, France
Dermot Gleeson Chairman, AIB Group, Ireland
Elisabeth Guigou French National Assembly, France
Nigel Higgins Senior Partner N M Rohschild & Sons, UK
Jerzy Kozminski President & CEO Polish-American Freedom, Poland
Thomas Leysen CEO Umicore, Belgium
Manfred Bischoff Chairman, SNCF, France
Arpad Kovacs Pres. State Audit Office Hungary, Budapest
Friedrich Merz Member of the German Bundestag, Germany
Pietro Modiano Mng. Director CEO Intesa Sanpaolo, Italy
Hans Reisenhuber (returning) Member of the German Bundestag, Germany
Jeroen van der Veer Chief Executive, Royal Dutch Shell, The Netherlands

[Fields]

Those people suck.

[haigh]

The JBS has been trying to expose the ruling elite for the last 50 years, and their effectiveness has been lackluster to be generous. The elite has found it very easy to marginalize these views. It makes no difference whether they are true or not.

Better to get young people excited about a strict interpretation of the constitution, federalism, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. The upside of these ideas are not yet tested. They hold far more potential for bringing down the advocates of big government.

[Akus]

I don't understand why this supposedly powerful evil Trilateral Commission would be so concerned about Ron Paul?

His chances of winning are slim, even as I ask around the loyal Paulites. This movement is hardly new as there are tons of movements with similar or identical messages. The future of the movement after the dust is settled and November 08 passes is unclear as we are so many different voices....

I question this source that says this

[MMolloy]

A Speech by George H. W. Bush, President of the U.S.A., on the new world order. Given to a joint session of the United States Congress, Washington D.C. on 11 September 1990.

"The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge...

We're now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."

UN Founders: Collectivists with no regard for our US Constitution

[Thomas_Paine]

I don't understand why this supposedly powerful evil Trilateral Commission would be so concerned about Ron Paul?

His chances of winning are slim, even as I ask around the loyal Paulites. This movement is hardly new as there are tons of movements with similar or identical messages. The future of the movement after the dust is settled and November 08 passes is unclear as we are so many different voices....

I question this source that says this

You are mistaken, the establishment has much to fear from an educated populace hell bent on the idea of taking back their individual liberty. TC plans to dissolve U.S. sovereignty are no secret and they run completely against what Ron Paul is all about. Winning the nomination is not the central issue here, it is the fact that we are going forward with a very bold move in taking over the GOP machine. You must not have been in the movement long if you still believe that we are weak and ineffective, either that or you believe everything you hear from the media. The future of the freedom movement looks better than ever!

[Knightskye]

I don't mean to take your comments out of context, but do you mean to say that the Trilateral Commission is not composed of elite members of society who set agendas for government and media?

I just put it in quotation marks because it's a definition I don't really use. I'm sure they write things like that in newspaper articles - like something saying: Congressman Paul's supporters agree with him on his foreign policy, which he says follows the "Just-war Theory of Christianity". Something like that, or just getting the exact phrase that was used by the person they're quoting.

Now that you've parsed the second half of my sentence, how about the first part? :cool:

I think Paul's philosophy aligns more with Kennedy than Lincoln, by the way - and they were both assassinated, so it makes for a better analogy. ;)

[Bruno]

A Speech by George H. W. Bush, President of the U.S.A., on the new world order. Given to a joint session of the United States Congress, Washington D.C. on 11 September 1990.

"The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge...

We're now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."

UN Founders: Collectivists with no regard for our US Constitution

Wow. Got a link for that one?

[Knightskye]

Wow. Got a link for that one?

Just looked it up for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo.

[MikeStanart]

They should be petrified. It's not only young people at Ron Paul rallies getting educated, but those young people, and other people of various ages and varying degrees of political education, are going out and spreading the message of liberty en masse. This is only the beginning...

Plus, add on the future politicians Paul is inspiring who might have otherwise lived a life of empathy.

[Akus]

You are mistaken, the establishment has much to fear from an educated populace hell bent on the idea of taking back their individual liberty.

The populace is still very much ignorant and cannot be judged otherwise if people vote because one guy's tie is sexier then another's. True, we have attracted many young people, but if a movement consists of puttin a Ron Paul sticker on a car or making yet another youtube video of one of Ron Paul's speeches over some dramatic music, the movement is worthless. Young people didn't vote and still do not, if Ron Paul's election numbers are any indication, and as far as old people, well they probably still think Osama is hiding behind their TV or something....:rolleyes:


TC plans to dissolve U.S. sovereignty are no secret and they run completely against what Ron Paul is all about. Winning the nomination is not the central issue here.....

Herein lies the core of our disagreement


, it is the fact that we are going forward with a very bold move in taking over the GOP machine. You must not have been in the movement long if you still believe that we are weak and ineffective, either that or you believe everything you hear from the media. The future of the freedom movement looks better than ever!

My view of a movement has nothing to do with either TV, or length of my Ron Paul grassroots' membership. I have eyes, I see ignorance, indifference and resistance, sometimes violent one, to the truth and freedom.

I hope I'm wrong, I want to be wrong. I believe that it takes believing in the candidate. I believe that it takes work. Look at the threads I made

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124804

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113563

and tell me I'm being negative. I want this to work. I want the movement to last....

[Thomas_Paine]

The populace is still very much ignorant and cannot be judged otherwise if people vote because one guy's tie is sexier then another's. True, we have attracted many young people, but if a movement consists of puttin a Ron Paul sticker on a car or making yet another youtube video of one of Ron Paul's speeches over some dramatic music, the movement is worthless. Young people didn't vote and still do not, if Ron Paul's election numbers are any indication, and as far as old people, well they probably still think Osama is hiding behind their TV or something....:rolleyes:



Herein lies the core of our disagreement



My view of a movement has nothing to do with either TV, or length of my Ron Paul grassroots' membership. I have eyes, I see ignorance, indifference and resistance, sometimes violent one, to the truth and freedom.

I hope I'm wrong, I want to be wrong. I believe that it takes believing in the candidate. I believe that it takes work. Look at the threads I made

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124804

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113563

and tell me I'm being negative. I want this to work. I want the movement to last....

Just finished watching Ron Paul's speech at UNC Chapel Hill, there is a part in there where he points out that it doesn't take a majority to effect change. It only takes 5 percent to lead the change and we have 10 percent! I agree that we have created something which can effect great change regardless of the outcome of the primaries.-

[MMolloy]

We have enough numbers to take over many county and state organizations... if our people stay focused; tune out the media; work together and keep getting better informed.

[HPS]

http://hedonisticpleasureseeker.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/cackling-globalist-cabal-infiltrated/

HAH! Trilateral Commish gives props to Ron Paul for causing "significant future damage" to their planned future for us.

Note whose been ordered to shut him down.

The direct link to the AFP article is here but I thought y'all might get a kick out of the pictures I added.

[HPS]

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_elite_gather_135.html

oops forgot the direct link

[MMolloy]

Wow. Got a link for that one?


Links: Just Google "our fifth objective new world order" and you'll find your hearts content.

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

nt

[Cinderella]

The Trilateral Commission—one of the three most powerful globalist groups in the world—held closed-door meetings right here in Washington, D.C. from April 25 to 28. True to form, those members of the media who knew about the meeting—or were themselves participants in the proceedings—refused to discuss what went on inside or report on the attendees. Luckily, AFP’s own editor, Jim Tucker, was on the scene to bust this clandestine confabulation wide open.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_elite_gather_135.html

Source: American Free Press - Jim Tucker

Luminaries at the Trilateral Commission meeting in Washington expressed confidence that they own all three major presidential candidates, who, despite political posturing, will support sovereignty-surrendering measures such as NAFTA and the “North American Union.”

“John has always supported free trade, even while campaigning before union leaders,” said one. “Hil and Barack are pretending to be unhappy about some things, but that’s merely political posturing. They’re solidly in support.”

He was referring to Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

Mrs. Clinton, they noted, held strategy sessions as first lady on how to get Congress to approve NAFTA “without changes.” As president, they agreed, she would do no more than “dot an i or cross a t.”

Candidate Obama has not denied news reports in Canada that his top economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, assured Canadian diplomats that the senator would keep NAFTA intact and his anti-trade talk is just “campaign rhetoric.”

PETRIFIED ABOUT PAUL

While they are confident they can deal with any “potential president,” the Trilateralists paid huge tribute to Ron Paul in an equally large twist of irony, by expressing alarm that he is causing “significant future damage.”
They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker.

The reasons Paul’s “education campaign” strikes fear into Trilateral hearts are obvious. Paul would refuse to surrender an ounce of U.S. sovereignty to an international organization and TC wants world government.

Paul would immediately bring U.S. troops home from Iraq, Afghanistan and from 130 UN “peacekeeping” missions around the globe. TC wants to enjoy war profiteering and global power. Paul would abolish the federal income tax while the TC wants to pile on a global tax payable to the UN.

The formal agenda was loaded with everything Paul and American patriots detest: higher taxes, more foreign giveaways, more immigration, both legal and illegal, into the United States and “engaging Iran,” among others.AMERICA NEEDS TO PAY HER FAIR SHARE?

The Trilaterals got down to real work on Saturday, April 26, with a high-powered panel called “U.S. Foreign and Domestic Policy: Broad Outlines for a New Administration.”

It was presided over by journalistic pimp David Gergen, who will write nothing about TC in his magazine, U.S News and World Report. Also participating were Kenneth Duberstein, former White House chief of staff for President Ronald Reagan; Strobe Talbot, president of the Brookings Institution and former deputy secretary of state; and Joseph Nye, former assistant secretary of defense. Henry Kissinger, former secretary of state and long-time Bilderberg leader, was present and listed as a participant. But a TC staff member crossed his name out. Some speculated he had throat problems.

This panel had these orders for the next president: increase foreign aid across the board because “America does not pay its fair share,” pay up the arrears in UN dues, allow as many immigrants into the United States as want to come and provide “amnesty” for illegal aliens already here.

Little, if anything, was said about the fact that American taxpayers pay one-fourth of the UN’s operating costs and one-third of the cost of 130 “peacekeeping missions” or the fact that immigrants from South America depress wages here and the average immigrant family costs the government thousands of dollars a year in welfare, health and other “benefits.”

Robert Zoellick, president of the World Bank and another long-time Bilderberg boy, largely echoed these views in a sweetheart “interview” by another journalistic strumpet, Lionel Barber, editor of The Financial Times, who will obediently report nothing.

FIGHT WARMING; ALLOW IMMIGRANTS

There were “subgroup” meetings on “climate change,” “water and sanitation” and “migration and development.” Every nation, especially the U.S., should spend big bucks to fight “global warming,” they agreed. The United States should spend more “because Americans cause the most pollution,” one argued. Americans should send more money to Africa so natives can drink clean water and scrub themselves, they said.

Antonio Garrigues Walker, chairman of Garrigues Abogadas y Asesores Tributarios, joined Peter Sutherland, the UN secretary-general’s “special representative on migration and development,” to call on the United States to not only allow unlimited immigration, but to throw more money at Mexico and other impoverished Latin countries. It was, somehow, their “right” to have more U.S. dollars. Sutherland is chairman of British Petroleum and Goldman Sachs International. He is also a long-time Bilderberg leader.

MEDIA BLACKOUT

Bill Emmott, another kept journalist, spoke on “the rise of Asia” at a reception-dinner held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum. Emmott, former editor of The Economist, will report nothing.

Sunday morning, Robert Blackwill, former U.S. deputy national security adviser for Iraq, led a panel discussion on “engaging Iran and building peace in the Persian Gulf Region.” For the first time, there was dissent. Blackwill tried to rationalize the invasion of Iraq. Others doubted that Saddam Hussein was connected to the 9-11 terrorist attacks or was a nuclear threat. Blackwill said the military option remains but he hopes diplomatic efforts succeed.

Other participants were Ray Takeyh of the Council on Foreign Relations, which functions as the propaganda ministry for TC and Bilderberg; Volker Perthes, head of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs and Hitoshi Tanaka, former Japanese deputy minister of Foreign Affairs.

MORE, MORE, MORE MONEY

More foreigners demanded more U.S. money at a lunch panel called “European and Asian views on U.S. Foreign and Security Policy.” Participants were Elisabeth Guigou, a member of the French National Assembly and former minister for European affairs and Han Sung-joo, former minister of foreign affairs for South Korea.

An afternoon session addressed “global health” with more calls for American tax dollars. A major voice in this cause came from Sylvia Mathews Burwell, president of Global Development Programs, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Bill Gates has attended at least one Bilderberg meeting.

EXCUSES FOR IRAQ; PLANS FOR IRAN

John Negroponte, U.S. deputy secretary of state, addressed the evening dinner on “U.S. foreign policy perspectives.” Again, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were rationalized and an invasion of Iran held out as a possibility.

The Monday morning finale addressed the Global Financial Crisis involving these luminaries: Robert Kimmitt, U.S. deputy secretary of the treasury; Martin Feldstein, former chairman of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers; David Rubenstein, managing director of The Carlyle Group; Naoki Tanaka, president of the Center for International Public Policy Studies and Sir Andrew Crockett, president of JP Morgan Chase International.

Among them, there was much talk of the U.S. government’s “duty” to “intervene” on behalf of “financial institutions under stress.” Little or nothing was said of the hundreds of thousands of Americans who are losing their homes because financial institutions lured them into buying houses they could not afford.

Throughout the weekend, no American voices were heard objecting to the demands on their country. Instead, there were smiles, nods and applause.

[Cinderella]

bump because they fear us...hehe

[TruthAtLast]

and yet the People continue to live in their bumble. Luckily more of us are seeing reality. What is the count up to? 1,000,000+ ?

[mmink15]

That article made me think that maybe the best thing for the Ron Paul rEVOLution would be Ron Paul not becoming POTUS, but travelling the country continuing the "education campaign". Could grassroots keep enough money coming in to support a four year campaign for 2012? Imagine Ron Paul holding a rally every other week at a large college or conference hall FOR FOUR YEARS. It would be alot to ask from Dr. Paul, but maybe even a steady stream of weekly youtube videos from Washington or Texas would serve the purpose.

I sincerely hope Ron Paul gets a chance to read this article before Thomas Foley gets a chance to work on his assignment. This to me was the most impressive and scary part of that article:

"They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker."

[Cinderella]

i have alot of ignorant people in my life...and even when i try to talk to them they just dont get it...its really depressing and frustrating i just want to scream " why dont u just get it?!?!?!?!" but i dont want to scare them away

[TruthAtLast]

That article made me think that maybe the best thing for the Ron Paul rEVOLution would be Ron Paul not becoming POTUS, but travelling the country continuing the "education campaign". Could grassroots keep enough money coming in to support a four year campaign for 2012? Imagine Ron Paul holding a rally every other week at a large college or conference hall FOR FOUR YEARS. It would be alot to ask from Dr. Paul, but maybe even a steady stream of weekly youtube videos from Washington or Texas would serve the purpose.

I sincerely hope Ron Paul gets a chance to read this article before Thomas Foley gets a chance to work on his assignment. This to me was the most impressive and scary part of that article:

"They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker."

I like this idea, and I don't think it is any more to ask of Paul than what he'd have to do if he WERE elected President.

[Cinderella]

"They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker."


that scared me becuase what would they do if he said screw u im not stopping anything!

i wish he could become POTUS now but the thought of a 4 year campaign awakening millions of americans would be great! but if he doesnt make it to become POTUS im scared to think of what will happen the next four years

[Hook]

Well, Jim Tucker is somewhat of a sensationalist like Alex Jones. Did Jim actually record the meetings somehow, or is this third-party hearsay?

[dannno]

I sincerely hope Ron Paul gets a chance to read this article before Thomas Foley gets a chance to work on his assignment. This to me was the most impressive and scary part of that article:

"They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker."



Yes we need to watch that Foley character.

[Danke]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=135799

[Cinderella]

woah woah woah.....howd u do that?? combine our threads to one?? im amazed! ;)

[BuddyRey]

I'm not sure I buy the part about the elites pushing for freer immigration. It seems to me that power-hungry politicos would be trying to find a way to restrict immigration and international travel even further, especially to keep Americans from fleeing the country once the economy collapses.

[pacelli]

"answer to 1984 is 1776" ...AJ

My favorite quote of all time.

[RonPaulR3VOLUTION]

That article made me think that maybe the best thing for the Ron Paul rEVOLution would be Ron Paul not becoming POTUS, but travelling the country continuing the "education campaign". Could grassroots keep enough money coming in to support a four year campaign for 2012? Imagine Ron Paul holding a rally every other week at a large college or conference hall FOR FOUR YEARS. It would be alot to ask from Dr. Paul, but maybe even a steady stream of weekly youtube videos from Washington or Texas would serve the purpose.

I sincerely hope Ron Paul gets a chance to read this article before Thomas Foley gets a chance to work on his assignment. This to me was the most impressive and scary part of that article:

"They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker."

It'd be nice if his book sales could fund a continuous tour throughout the U.S. I'm sure many people would show up at the rallies to buy extra copies to keep the tour going. It doesn't look as though this is going to take place, so I'm assuming the book sales wouldn't do enough to help cover the expenses.

[HPS]

For what it's worth folks, according to David Estulin the Bilderbergers were kicking around the idea of "neutralizing" Ron Paul. That's code for assassinate. This was almost a year ago so they must have shelved it.

I don't know if you folks take Benjamin Fulford seriously but "his people" (the Asian version of the Bilderbergers) have already told David Rockefeller - - to his face - - that heads will roll if they touch Ron Paul.

Frankly I think the Asian assassins are better than ours. At least that's the way it goes in the movies, right? ;-)

[BenMuldowney]

For what it's worth folks, according to David Estulin the Bilderbergers were kicking around the idea of "neutralizing" Ron Paul. That's code for assassinate. This was almost a year ago so they must have shelved it.

I don't know if you folks take Benjamin Fulford seriously but "his people" (the Asian version of the Bilderbergers) have already told David Rockefeller - - to his face - - that heads will roll if they touch Ron Paul.

Frankly I think the Asian assassins are better than ours. At least that's the way it goes in the movies, right? ;-)

the first second i heard fulford i thought he was full of it. still think he is full of it. few things jeff rense touches that i trust. jeff and his ufo's make me cringe... and now ninja boy? im gonna hafta take a rain check on this foolishness.

[BenMuldowney]

I'm not sure I buy the part about the elites pushing for freer immigration. It seems to me that power-hungry politicos would be trying to find a way to restrict immigration and international travel even further, especially to keep Americans from fleeing the country once the economy collapses.


they "elites" have been funding it for years.. wake up.

[Cinderella]

I don't know if you folks take Benjamin Fulford seriously but "his people" (the Asian version of the Bilderbergers) have already told David Rockefeller - - to his face - - that heads will roll if they touch Ron Paul.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... :rolleyes:

[dude58677]

The populace is still very much ignorant and cannot be judged otherwise if people vote because one guy's tie is sexier then another's. True, we have attracted many young people, but if a movement consists of puttin a Ron Paul sticker on a car or making yet another youtube video of one of Ron Paul's speeches over some dramatic music, the movement is worthless. Young people didn't vote and still do not, if Ron Paul's election numbers are any indication, and as far as old people, well they probably still think Osama is hiding behind their TV or something....:rolleyes:



Herein lies the core of our disagreement



My view of a movement has nothing to do with either TV, or length of my Ron Paul grassroots' membership. I have eyes, I see ignorance, indifference and resistance, sometimes violent one, to the truth and freedom.

I hope I'm wrong, I want to be wrong. I believe that it takes believing in the candidate. I believe that it takes work. Look at the threads I made

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124804

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113563

and tell me I'm being negative. I want this to work. I want the movement to last....


What about BJ Lawson who is a clone of Ron Paul winning his Congressional district 70-30 percent? What about the 30 other Ron Paul Republicans running for Congress? What about Murray Sabrin running for Senate. We also had many of them win primaries in their congressional district in additon to Lawson's blowout.

[LittleLightShining]

For what it's worth folks, according to David Estulin the Bilderbergers were kicking around the idea of "neutralizing" Ron Paul. That's code for assassinate. This was almost a year ago so they must have shelved it.

I don't know if you folks take Benjamin Fulford seriously but "his people" (the Asian version of the Bilderbergers) have already told David Rockefeller - - to his face - - that heads will roll if they touch Ron Paul.

Frankly I think the Asian assassins are better than ours. At least that's the way it goes in the movies, right? ;-)Where'd you get this from?

[humanic]

Where'd you get this from?

http://www.danielestulin.com/?op=noticias&noticias=ver&id=623
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121407_assassinating_paul.htm

[MMolloy]

i have alot of ignorant people in my life...and even when i try to talk to them they just dont get it...its really depressing and frustrating i just want to scream " why dont u just get it?!?!?!?!" but i dont want to scare them away

My approach is to ask questions, find out what is of concern to them and then get them something to read on the subject.

I usually UNDERSTATE my case for a # of reasons, one of which is that when we start talking about such things as the CFR or the Trilateral Commision or (Mike looks both ways and whispers) conspiracy the media has already preprogramed the listener to assume we're paranoid/emotionally unstable. If I reinforce that perception I lose... If I'm calm, :cool: and collected I have a better chance to reach that individual.

We have to all maintain networks of people who will come to us in times of stress, asking "what's going on?". THIS battle will test our nerves, our resolve, our character... I don't know about anyone else but I'm no superman, so I have to PRAY and then keep working.

Peace,

Mi:cool:

[Cinderella]

We have to all maintain networks of people who will come to us in times of stress, asking "what's going on?". THIS battle will test our nerves, our resolve, our character...

funny u say that because im the one all my friends go to when they need to kno whats going on in the news and in the world.....my friends dont get their news from the media they get it from me....i never complain:cool:

[123tim]

Thank you Cinderella for posting the article on this thread.

It seems like all of the hyperlinks point to the dreaded "forbidden" realm for me.

While I don't doubt one thing that was written in this article, it seems to be written in a way that casts doubt on the content. I wish that it had a little something in it to back up some of the statements which were made.

[libertarian4321]

The elite have given the task of pressuring Ron Paul to DROP OUT, to Thomas Foley, North American Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (former Speaker of the House). This signals an all out assault, get ready for the pressure to go from bad to worse.

Okay, I know some of you believe anything you read.

But lets think about just this one statement for a bit, shall we?

The "Trilateral Commission" wants Ron Paul to drop out (why, I don't know, since 95% of the American population thinks he's already dropped out- but I'll go along).

So they send former congressman, DEMOCRAT Tom Foley to do the job? Give me a break- why in HELL would this powerful organization that allegedly "rules the world" pick a former Democratic congressman to "get Ron Paul to drop out"?

Ron Paul wouldn't drop out all this time, but he's supposed to cave because a DEM ex congressman asks him to?

Thats just plain silly, folks. I read that far, called "BS" and stopped reading...

[HPS]

@libertarian4321: What, you still believe there's a difference between the two political parties? I didn't think there were any of you guys left!

OK snark aside, to really SEE what's happening in this world one needs to drop the False Dichotomy Blinders. The fascists have infested both parties. They "own" the Republicans AND the Democrats. They "own" both Capitalism and Communism. False opposites, all, and getting us to struggle against false opposites is a nifty way for them to get us to bleed our energy dry.

[ClayTrainor]

For what it's worth folks, according to David Estulin the Bilderbergers were kicking around the idea of "neutralizing" Ron Paul. That's code for assassinate. This was almost a year ago so they must have shelved it.

I don't know if you folks take Benjamin Fulford seriously but "his people" (the Asian version of the Bilderbergers) have already told David Rockefeller - - to his face - - that heads will roll if they touch Ron Paul.

Frankly I think the Asian assassins are better than ours. At least that's the way it goes in the movies, right? ;-)

I actually have no reason not to take Fulford seriously.

He did manage to get that Rockefeller interview and has never been busted in a lie before, to my knowledge.

I have very little doubt that he has some very powerful connections.

[MS0453]

@libertarian4321: What, you still believe there's a difference between the two political parties? I didn't think there were any of you guys left!

OK snark aside, to really SEE what's happening in this world one needs to drop the False Dichotomy Blinders. The fascists have infested both parties. They "own" the Republicans AND the Democrats. They "own" both Capitalism and Communism. False opposites, all, and getting us to struggle against false opposites is a nifty way for them to get us to bleed our energy dry.

By trying to sound like you're "in the know", you completely circumvented his point. Are many people within both parties ideologically identical? Sure. However, Ron hasn't dropped out of the race despite complaints from (some) fellow Republicans. Why would a man within the Democratic party convince him to drop out? Essentially it'll be a stranger from a different party that is going to be the man to get him to drop out? You'd think that an organization that controls all events would use someone closer to and on friendly terms with the Congressman to get him to drop out. Apparently not though. Only a fool would think the strategy would work and only a fool would believe the story.

[Rhys]

Does anyone wonder how a reporter gets inside a TC meeting to report on it and does so repeatedly? This wreaks of fiction.

[Deborah K]

A quote from the article:

They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker.

Yet another reason this march on washington is crucial!! Ron Paul is talking publicly about our rally to high-powered groups.

It's time to get on board with this folks!

[Libertytree]

I do take the article with somewhat a dose of salt but as far as Foley goes it might not mean that Foley would personally influence Ron to quit the crusade but that he was in charge of making it happen. This could have many variables as I'm sure a former House speaker has his means and connections with certain, shall we say, sway.

I don't think it'll do any good as I would imagine there's been many higher ups in DC that have tried to get him to drop out and chill out but that ain't gonna happen.

[Danke]

Does anyone wonder how a reporter gets inside a TC meeting to report on it and does so repeatedly? This wreaks of fiction.

Yep:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1435583&postcount=20

[HPS]

@ Clay Trainor

Fulford can get interviews with Rockefeller types because he IS (adjusting my tinfoil hat) "Illuminati." His grandfather was reportedly offed for doing something the Rockefeller types didn't like, something to do with Tesla technologies.

So Ben Fulford is himself an insider, he may be a part of the whole globalist charade for all we know, Good Cop vs. Bad Cop and all that. Then again this might be a true blue(blood) grudge match against the people who killed Grampa. Who knows? Fulford himself seems genuinely well-meaning. God knows there are factions within the elites and they DON'T get along.

It's all just speculation and I hope do someone makes a movie about this when it's all over. "There will be ninjas!"

As for the American Free Press article, the author IS a member of the elite and for all we know he's "exposing" the Trilaterals in accordance with (their) direction. Meaning I have no doubts as to the authenticity of the article but concede some of it might be psyops.

[dsentell]

Does anyone wonder how a reporter gets inside a TC meeting to report on it and does so repeatedly? This wreaks of fiction.

I don't believe that the article ever says he got inside.

Jim Tucker has been trailing the Bilderbergers and TC for decades. Tucker's tactic is to go to the location of the event. He has acquaintances as well as employees working at the event that are able to get inside who slip him information.

In short, his info is not first hand, but comes from sources that he trusts. . . .

[acptulsa]

I have no doubts as to the authenticity of the article but concede some of it might be psyops.

Trying to lure us into a false sense of effectiveness?

[Rhys]

Trying to lure us into a false sense of effectiveness?

or wishful thinking on the part of the author. I think he gets his giggles hoaxing us. "On site reporting" is the part that makes me think he claims to have been there. If he knows people there, why don't they kick his ass for talking when he shows up? Maybe the TC did meet, but I find it highly suspect that this guy knows what they talked about. Sometimes you guys just believe what you want to. If you saw this on CNN, you wouldn't believe it.... but because it comes from "the underground" and says what you want to hear, you're all about it.

newsflash... I was at the TC meeting as a staffer, and they were debating deli tray or fruit spread for their Summer Jubilee. It got heated, and Henry Kissinger called David Gergen a big forheaded clinton sucker. Ted Koppel just shook his head, and wrote down deli tray. I think that's how they left it. I dunno, I was sent out early to get fudge sickles for Janet Reno.

[Deborah K]

or wishful thinking on the part of the author. I think he gets his giggles hoaxing us. "On site reporting" is the part that makes me think he claims to have been there. If he knows people there, why don't they kick his ass for talking when he shows up? Maybe the TC did meet, but I find it highly suspect that this guy knows what they talked about. Sometimes you guys just believe what you want to. If you saw this on CNN, you wouldn't believe it.... but because it comes from "the underground" and says what you want to hear, you're all about it.

newsflash... I was at the TC meeting as a staffer, and they were debating deli tray or fruit spread for their Summer Jubilee. It got heated, and Henry Kissinger called David Gergen a big forheaded clinton sucker. Ted Koppel just shook his head, and wrote down deli tray. I think that's how they left it. I dunno, I was sent out early to get fudge sickles for Janet Reno.


Cute. :rolleyes: You obviously didn't take the time to check out James Tucker:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Tucker,_Jr. most of us who have been at this for several years believe he's a trustworthy source.

[LittleLightShining]

Cute. :rolleyes: You obviously didn't take the time to check out James Tucker:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Tucker,_Jr. most of us who have been at this for several years believe he's a trustworthy source.There's no article there, Deborah.

[Deborah K]

There's no article there, Deborah.

The article is in the OP. I was posting a wiki about the author of the article.

[Deborah K]

There's no article there, Deborah.


Okay, Kade. Did you have something to do with this since you are a writer for Wiki?

LittleLight, when I first posted that link, Wiki had some stuff on James Tucker.

[Deborah K]

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Tucker,_Jr.

hmmmmm I don't get what's happening. If you google James Tucker, a wiki article comes up first, but when I copy and paste the wiki link into the post, it won't work. Never mind, Kade. Sorry for thinking it was you.

[Rhys]

Cute. :rolleyes: You obviously didn't take the time to check out James Tucker:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Tucker,_Jr. most of us who have been at this for several years believe he's a trustworthy source.

duh, I forgot to look him up in wikipedia. What was I thinking? :p

[acptulsa]

duh, I forgot to look him up in wikipedia. What was I thinking? :p

What you can't scrounge up even one grain of salt?

[RonPaulR3VOLUTION]

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Tucker,_Jr.

hmmmmm I don't get what's happening. If you google James Tucker, a wiki article comes up first, but when I copy and paste the wiki link into the post, it won't work. Never mind, Kade. Sorry for thinking it was you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James%5FP%2E%5FTucker%2C%5FJr%2E



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James%5FP%2E%5FTucker%2C%5FJr%2E

[Rhys]

What you can't scrounge up even one grain of salt?

i have lots of salt. I don't know what you mean though. dirt about wiki? plenty. mud about that guy? I don't know who he is. I just know he claims to be a super insider, which doesn't seem likely. if only you guys know who he is, there's no value, only risk, in slipping him info... because no one will read it and no outlets will pick it up. Sorry, he's full of shit. He's got 30 years of work... he should have made several dozen accurate predictions by now. maybe you can sell me on him.

[Rhys]

I just read the wiki about him that you linked. It just tells a couple anecdotes. He could have made those up too. He shows up to a hotel that he THINKS is bilderberg in 1999, and a member of his crew THINKS he recognizes someone important? That doesn't sound like a bilderberg meeting to me. It sounds like a conference that he thought was bilderberg. BBC 4 was with AJ too for that gay ass bohemian grove thing. That was probably staged so AJ could make a name for himself and start his false opposition. There was no one important at that bohemian thing either.... at least on video.

[Danke]

dirt about wiki? plenty.

Say it isn't so!

[Deborah K]

i have lots of salt. I don't know what you mean though. dirt about wiki? plenty. mud about that guy? I don't know who he is. I just know he claims to be a super insider, which doesn't seem likely. if only you guys know who he is, there's no value, only risk, in slipping him info... because no one will read it and no outlets will pick it up. Sorry, he's full of shit. He's got 30 years of work... he should have made several dozen accurate predictions by now. maybe you can sell me on him.

Where's your evidence that he's "hoaxing" us? Come on. All you have is opinion, like the rest of us. :p

[Deborah K]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James%5FP%2E%5FTucker%2C%5FJr%2E



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James%5FP%2E%5FTucker%2C%5FJr%2E



Thanks

[Rhys]

Where's your evidence that he's "hoaxing" us? Come on. All you have is opinion, like the rest of us. :p

my evidence is that it's stupid. lol There's not one good reason to believe him. Tom Clancy is believable too, but he still writes fiction. This guy's just a good story teller.

hell, there's not even a bad reason to believe him!

[Deborah K]

my evidence is that it's stupid. lol There's not one good reason to believe him. Tom Clancy is believable too, but he still writes fiction. This guy's just a good story teller.


What everrrrrrrr!!! LOL!! :D:D

[timosman]

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