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Conza88
05-06-2008, 07:35 AM
Well, this was proposed elsewhere - alot of people agreed there should be a plan or process for waking people up. Don't think anyone got around to doing it though.

So here goes my common sense attempt which is more so a (non professional aka Not F.U Frank quality) manipulation approach, too get people to the bright/right side. Anyone out there studied cognitive dissonance? Or psychology or whatever? LoL, please pitch in - including anyone with real life experiences that woke you up, or how you have managed to wake up others.

The goal is a gradual process of getting the person to wake up, to the real reality of things. At least to the point where they reject what they hear on the news, and research for themselves. But basically, an understanding that there is global elite - that there is a NWO, or indeed a proposal for one world government. Now if you reject that notion; Watch. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5420753830426590918) And then if you still reject that notion; tell me Aaron Russo is a liar. And then I'll simply consider you; as scared, you must consider ignorance is bliss, you've had your head in the sand for the entire campaign or you're relatively in denial.

Anyway, we'll see if this plan can wake you up, which shall be its goal, through a slow process - as the mind can't be forced.

“Knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.”~ Plato

Baby steps, otherwise what you're going to experience is massive cognitive dissonance. Where people can't accept the new learning, because they have too much riding on the old. "You conspiracy nut" "thats kookish" etc is a normal reaction.

I think its best to start out with fiction. And more often than not, those asleep - don't read too much. If they do, great - “The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain Getting them to read the book is always going to be more effective aswell. They can take it at their own pace, and its not passive like television.

What we have to remember is, each person is unique. We are all individuals. Thus you should study the person whom you want to save/wake up. What are the issues that are important to them? What paradigms will they have to overcome to realise they are in a false reality? Consider: should you work on the issues that they are not dogmatically against considering, educate them on those issues that they are open to consider - and then eventually, proceed on showing them the truth in the areas they have previously refused to address..?

Furthermore, for 'spreading the words sake' - this process, should really only be taken to great lengths, to those you love, your family and friends. Those you know best. It takes courage & bravery to take that step out of your comfort zone. If you wish, you could do it anonymously, send them a dvd of the video, or suggest they'd really like this book etc. Give it too them as a present, Birthdays/Christmas etc.

It essentially depends on the person. As some people are very open minded and consider what has been presented to them, and then logically and rationally take the time to research further, or the new information may fit and complete a puzzle they were trying to solve. But for others it is much harder. You may already be known to be outlandish, or they think so - and automatically reject your opinions / facts because its you who is presenting them. You may have tried previously, and failed - and now they just switch off when you talk, or pay no attention. The subtle approach is worth trying, if they have rejected your previous honest & open attempts of showing them the light.

This series may help in some regard.
Liberty Sells Itself [1/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_shEnY_lcQI), [2/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFGjeXQuE8), [3/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqVHxZmkNc)

Regardless if they reject what has been mentioned, I dunno - RFID chips being implanted in people etc. Simply exposing them to the truth, evidently it may stick in the back of their mind, and when watching Fox News (straight after watching.. OutFoxed, the techniques used will become evident) PLUS,.. Fox News has something on about RFID chips being required for children to be allowed to attend school.. it just may well click. It is well worth the effort, there is a war on for our minds, and education is what they detest. Knowledge is POWER & education is key - which is why the elite is peeved at Ron Paul and his "education camps" (rallies) Haha. It ain't over yet.

Ok, so this is my first draft. Add your comments & considerations, thoughts and criticisms. I started out writing this, and having finished, kind of considered it rather :confused:. Considered deleting, but I'll post it anyway.. the list is no-where near complete, nor the steps. But add away! Side Note: for general carpet bombing wake ups, consider using a DVD of America Freedom to Fascism or something else?


Step 1. Detachment (Time to Open the Mind)
The Matrix: Trilogy
Animal Farm (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9153412213802919416)
1984 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940)
The End of America - Naomi Wolf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc)
Shooter
Wag the Dog
They Live
V for Vendetta
Lord of War
JFK
Enemy of the State
Dark City

Step 2. The Media is not your information friend.
The Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meranT1UzHo)
Good Night & Good Luck (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433383/)
Media-Opoly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEdDd5zsHo)
Spin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353)
Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428)
Manufacturing Consent (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631882395226827730)

Step 3. You have been lied too.
George Carlin (Who Owns You Americans? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg))
How to Create an Angry American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ)
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173)
The Truth & Lies of 9/11 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145)

Step 4. The War on Terror, is not what you think.
Don't be a Sucker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk)
American WARNING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Y8hFv8I0)
The Power of Nightmares Part 1, (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-53500833677585746)Part 2, (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876)Part 3 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254)
Taxi To The Dark Side (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7553360276446246577)
The Ground Truth: The Human Cost of War (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5188599301918606321)

Step 5. Government is the problem, not the solution.
The Philosophy of Liberty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I)
The Proper Role of Government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5_N86Pblj0)
The Law (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html) by Frederick Basiat
Revolution: a Manifesto by Ron Paul
Road to Serfdom (http://files.meetup.com/516057/upld-release93pdf.pdf) by Hayek

Step 6. The world is run on self-interest
Atlas Shrugged (http://files.meetup.com/516057/Atlas_Shrugged.pdf)

Step 7. The Money System - what it is & the International Bankers
Money as Debt (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279)
Creature From Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450)
The Price of Oil is not rising, the value of the dollar is falling (http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-gold-commodities-47041507)
Duck Tales Inflation Lesson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LWQQrpSc4)
The Kingdom of Moltz (http://www.constitution.org/tax/us-ic/schiff/moltz.pdf)
How an Economy Grows and Why it Doesn't (http://www.restoretherepublic.org/documents/how-an-economy-grows.pdf)

Step 8. False left, false right - One party system, two faces of evil.
We are the Ones we've been Waiting For (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7KHUbuhgpQ&NR=1)
Democrats elected to end the Iraq war
America is not a democracy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qszo8u1m9ZQ)
An Idea whose time has come (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958)

Step 9. The New World Order
Historic Interview with Aaron Russo (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1956773139549147763)
North American Union & VChip Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo)
Endgame (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261)
Esoteric Agenda (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009)
The Big Picture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_Js8Vp1BE&feature=PlayList&p=296DC06913A40D4F&index=0)
The Final Push for World Government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1bjnkOqT8k)

Cognitive Dissonance Articles
http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm
http://www.pabia.org/Archives/Newsletters/Cognitive%20Dissonance/cognitive_dissonance.htm
http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/cognitive_dissonance.htm
http://tip.psychology.org/festinge.html
http://www.afirstlook.com/archive/cogdiss.cfm?
http://www.colorado.edu/communication/meta-discourses/Theory/dissonance/
http://wwwthesixthestate.blogspot.com/2008/03/imperialism-boot-camp-and-cognitive.html
http://www.perrspectives.com/articles/art_cogdis02.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_628.shtml
http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/resistan.htm

dude58677
05-06-2008, 07:38 AM
Bump

UtahApocalypse
05-06-2008, 07:48 AM
Wow I like this idea, good list too.

pinkmandy
05-06-2008, 08:05 AM
Great post!!! Awesome list!!!


“Knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.”~ Plato
Love that. A major reason so many kids fall through the cracks in public schools.


I've been working on friends/family for a long time but I also spend time posting online. What I have been doing online in other forums I'm involved in (not RP related) has been a process of slowly chipping away their blind trust that govt is ultimately good. Long before they will ever consider NWO or FEMA camp (that scares them away- I tried that tactic initially and threads just wouldn't even be read) I started with everyday things. Example, the current recall in plastics. What govt agency was looking out for you my dears? Afterall, they knew about these dangers for years? Who were they looking out for if not you? Why? I do this on a continual basis and there are always current issues that apply. I have for about 2 years (before I heard of RP even). I have their ears now, they are concerned. I've been posting about the economy for a long time. I keep informative youtubes in my siggie and change them every few days. They watch them. I left one board for a bit and got a ton of private messages from people I didn't even know who lurked on my threads, reading and taking it all in, asking me to come back and post again. It works. Have your discussions and heated debates w/nonbelievers who will hold fast to their own beliefs, but remember the lurkers with each word you type.



ETA: Can I repost your list elsewhere?

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-06-2008, 08:27 AM
Nice list. Great plan of action for people you have personal contact with and has pretty much been my approach with friends and family. My vehicle for mass dissemination is www.TrueWorldHistory.info (http://www.TrueWorldHistory.info). The number of people that those of us on these forums have personal contact with compared to the total number of people out there that we really need to reach is miniscule. That's why in addition to working on individuals with what I think they can handle, I am mass marketing the TrueWorldHistory.info website to reach as many as I can that I don't have personal contact with.

pinkmandy
05-06-2008, 08:30 AM
Dirk- that's a cool site. Is it your site?

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-06-2008, 08:37 AM
Dirk- that's a cool site. Is it your site?

Yes, thanks! I recently got some business cards and stickers made and have been recruiting people all over the country to help distribute them. So far I've got about 40 people around the US that I am sending them to. Let me know if you want some! The stickers are small, I made them that way specifically because they fit well above the $ readouts on gas pumps.

Here is another thread I posted on here a few days ago about it:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=135860

I shipped out everything I had yesterday and ordered another 5,000 stickers and 10,000 business cards that should arrive in about a week.

georgiaboy
05-06-2008, 08:51 AM
I'll have to say, it wasn't until my brother handed me a copy of "The Creature from Jekyll Island" that some of the big pieces started coming together for me. In that one book I got a great treatise on the history of money, the Fed, and perhaps most surprising to me, the 'conspiratorial' notion that war might be more than just a 'good vs. evil' last resort, but in fact a tool to manipulate world finances. Though of course not provable, these last several years have given me pause to reflect on the publicly available rationales for all the warring our country is involved in, think about the vague bandied about term "in America's best interests", and realize that in general, where once I trusted the powers that be to be doing the noble thing, now I am much more circumspect and realize that this activity, if one is a defender of the constitution and of national sovereignty, must radically be curtailed. Fortunately, though, there is hope, there is a better way -- in all you good people, and in the principles we're defending.

pinkmandy
05-06-2008, 09:45 AM
Yes, Dirk. I'll be taking some of those stickers. :) When you get more in, post and I'll pm you.

And this is a great thread...

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-06-2008, 02:33 PM
bump

Conza88
05-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Great post!!! Awesome list!!!

Love that. A major reason so many kids fall through the cracks in public schools.

I've been working on friends/family for a long time
ETA: Can I repost your list elsewhere?

Well done on the postings for forums! Another great way to wake people up if you have the will, theres a way. :) I found out about Ron Paul online.. as I am sure many people did. The net is great, because you get presented with words, or visual stimuli.. there isn't a person in front of you that you need to focus on, too read their body language etc. You can concentrate on the message.

Yea you can post it elsewhere.. but its not finished yet :D
(Assignments due in the next few days) So I'll be back, to really give it another crack.)

Conza88
05-09-2008, 04:34 AM
Please add to the ranks, if they are thin. Few more added.

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-09-2008, 05:29 AM
Ring of Power

If you haven't seen this documentary yet you should check it out. It's in 2 parts and about 5 hours total, but very fascinating.


Part 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=NH8gSN2bAo6ArgLNx-3SAg (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=NH8gSN2bAo6ArgLNx-3SAg)


Part 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=RX8gSNiXIoGMrgK04eW-Ag (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=RX8gSNiXIoGMrgK04eW-Ag)

Conza88
05-09-2008, 06:13 AM
Ring of Power

If you haven't seen this documentary yet you should check it out. It's in 2 parts and about 5 hours total, but very fascinating.


Part 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=NH8gSN2bAo6ArgLNx-3SAg (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=NH8gSN2bAo6ArgLNx-3SAg)


Part 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=RX8gSNiXIoGMrgK04eW-Ag (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889&q=empire+of+the+city&ei=RX8gSNiXIoGMrgK04eW-Ag)


Ah its on my other list, but I haven't got round to watching it. I will do if you think it should be on. :D

dirknb@hotmail.com
05-09-2008, 06:21 AM
Ah its on my other list, but I haven't got round to watching it. I will do if you think it should be on. :D

I can't believe I hadn't watched it before this week. I'm going to add it to the homepage of my www.TrueWorldHistory.info (http://www.TrueWorldHistory.info) site. Even ordered a DVD of it.

Conza88
05-11-2008, 02:04 AM
bump. :)

chowdy
05-11-2008, 02:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_serfdom

A big part of my waking up. Add it or not :)

Conza88
05-11-2008, 03:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_serfdom

A big part of my waking up. Add it or not :)

:) yea you're right. Under what section do you think though?
I'll have to scan over all the books, and add in the red pills.
Tried to focus on videos mostly.

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 05:30 AM
Nice work.

Unfortunately most people will not wake up.

History has illustrated this over and over.

There is no present and no future.

Only the past happening over and over again...

Now.

Conza88
05-11-2008, 05:43 AM
Nice work.
Unfortunately most people will not wake up.
History has illustrated this over and over.
There is no present and no future.
Only the past happening over and over again...
Now.

Thats ok, because we don't need a majority.

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever does” ~ Margaret Mead

;)

rpfan2008
05-11-2008, 05:52 AM
Answer to 1 9 8 4 is 1 7 7 6

bump

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 06:06 AM
Thats ok, because we don't need a majority.

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever does” ~ Margaret Mead

;)

Well said...

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 06:07 AM
I'm still sceptical...

Conza88
05-11-2008, 06:20 AM
I'm still sceptical...

Only 10% of the population of the US supported the Patriots, and the fight for the first American Revolution.


"But it was with the publication of Common Sense that Thomas Paine became the voice of a revolution. It was the first American best-seller. Published in January, 1776, it sold 120,000 copies in the first three months and from 200,000 to a half-million copies within the year— estimates vary. This at a time when the total population was only about three million people.

John Quincy Adams would write, years later, “Paine's pamphlet, Common Sense, crystallized public opinion and was the first factor in bringing about the Revolution."http://www.godlessinamerica.com/tompaine.html


It seemed everyone was reading the argument for independence. Rev. Theodore Parker, a Unitarian pastor and social reformer, said “Every living man in America in 1776 who could read, read Common Sense, by Thomas Paine. If he were a Tory he read it, at least a little, just to find out for himself how atrocious it was; and if he was a Whig he read it all to find the reasons why he was one. This book was the arsenal to which colonists went for their mental weapons.”


Paine’s words sent a shock throughout the colonies. With a writing style that was clear and direct, he made the case for independence in terms that all could understand. The cause of America, he wrote, was the cause of humanity.

Historical parallels anyone? As shit gets worse, its only going to get easier to wake people up. Ron Paul's Revolution: A Manifesto, is the Common Sense of today.


Within six months of the publication of Common Sense, the Declaration of Independence was being drafted. Within the year, the American Revolution was under way in earnest.

This is just the beginning.

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 06:25 AM
Only 10% of the population of the US supported the Patriots, and the fight for the first American Revolution.

http://www.godlessinamerica.com/tompaine.html

Historical parallels anyone? As shit gets worse, its only going to get easier to wake people up. Ron Paul's Revolution: Manifesto, is the Common Sense of today.

This is just the beginning.

The beginning of the end started in New Hampshire.

Too many people eating cheeseburgers.

I remain sceptical.

Disgusted...

speciallyblend
05-11-2008, 06:28 AM
The Problem isnt Ron Paul,It's the slimy,corrupt,pathetic Republican Party,until this reality sets in,this movement will not go further inside the republican party. The republican party would rather throw the election then follow its platform.. The Republican Party aka gop is the scum of the earth. I think best to let the gop die....

Fields
05-11-2008, 06:30 AM
Conza your 2 other threads of books and documentaries were great but here I think you outdid yourself. Great work.

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 06:36 AM
Republican/Democrat. Who cares?

Both parties are cash cows.

What happens as the economy implodes?

It's too late to repair the inevitable.

Tough medicine.

Conza88
05-11-2008, 07:21 AM
Republican/Democrat. Who cares?
Both parties are cash cows.
What happens as the economy implodes?
It's too late to repair the inevitable.
Tough medicine.

As the economy implodes, theres going to be a lot of people seeking answers. We have to be there to present the logical solution. It is contained in Ron Paul's book. But further to the point it is nicely summed up in -"The government is the problem. Not the solution." We need to be there to disseminate the message.

“We are continually faced by great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems.” ~ Lee Iacocca


Conza your 2 other threads of books and documentaries were great but here I think you outdid yourself. Great work.

Thanks Fields! :) It's much appreciated. A man, does what he can.

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 07:54 AM
As the economy implodes, theres going to be a lot of people seeking answers. We have to be there to present the logical solution. It is contained in Ron Paul's book. But further to the point it is nicely summed up in -"The government is the problem. Not the solution." We need to be there to disseminate the message.

“We are continually faced by great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems.” ~ Lee Iacocca



Thanks Fields! :) It's much appreciated. A man, does what he can.

Unfortunately my friend,

Your scenario is overly romantic.

Common sense, and analytical observation is not the first phase.

The first phase is fascism.

Check out Mussolini.

Conza88
05-11-2008, 08:20 AM
Unfortunately my friend,
Your scenario is overly romantic.
Common sense, and analytical observation is not the first phase.
The first phase is fascism.
Check out Mussolini.

What part of the First American Revolution didn't you understand?
Apart from stating the obvious, I'm willing to say - it was the beginning.
We're already in the tyrannical stage.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
~ Thomas Jefferson

Not sure what phase book you're following. From the one I'm reading, the first phase is already underway. Hence, the moving onto the second phase - getting out of it. HENCE, Common Sense by Thomas Paine - and HENCE, Revolution: A Manifesto by Ron Paul.

Anywayyy... this thread is for waking people up, NOT "not caring, it won't change anything type of bs attitudes". That defeatist attitude can GTFO. If you can't see that fine, remain skeptical - but do me a favor... whilst you sit in your seat & shoot down Hope with benign platitudes.

Why don't you go ahead & get chipped now. I hear they have early bird rates. :rolleyes:

Ozwest
05-11-2008, 08:27 AM
What part of the First American Revolution didn't you understand?
Apart from stating the obvious, I'm willing to say - it was the beginning.
Anywayyy... this thread is for waking people up, NOT "not giving a shit, it won't change anything type of bullshit attitudes". That defeatist attitude can GTFO.

Why don't you go ahead and get chipped now. I hear they have early bird rates. :rolleyes:

Hooly dooly!

No reason to listen to common sense.

I lived in America for 17 years.

I might have believed you before Bush/Cheney.

PS - I can guarantee you I will never be chipped.

Conza88
05-11-2008, 08:55 PM
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/RTBrooke/hijack.gif

Ok moving on.. :rolleyes:



The Tide is Turning!!
Posted May 12th, 2008 by Nui

The tide is turning. My wife and I were out antique shopping in some of the smaller towns in Texas.
Towns such as Schulenberg, Bertram, Burnet, Lampasas. The winds are changing and we could tell from just chatting with store owners. In quite a few of these towns, the people we talked to would be described as elderly, over 60, conservative and many of them Christians as far as we could tell. Why I say that the winds are blowing another direction is that only a year ago, the general consensus when we would be traveling around Texas and chatting with people was Bush this, Bush that. Let's go get them in Iraq. The war is good.

Well, from the temperature this weekend, it has changed. These people were mad. Mad , Mad. They were actually swearing. Using words such as crooks, liars, etc. They were talking about how the fellows up in Wall Street were a bunch of crooks. Had one group talk about
lynching would be good for a group of them. Now, I would have to say that these people that were expressing
their anger were feeling betrayed. I think they now know that they have been lied to. Betrayal is a funny thing. It will create an anger that is very deep. They were putting two and two together and realizing that finance, government, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, media were working together and stealing from the middle class. Lying and stealing. The media was a topic of conversation and most of them cannot stand to watch the "crap" that is on the news nowadays. Most of these logical thinking people realize that something is very wrong. They are waking up.........

Err what where you saying? :rolleyes:

Conza88
05-12-2008, 08:47 AM
Added to Step 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEdDd5zsHo

rancher89
05-12-2008, 08:57 AM
Thanks Conza, a lot of people have really enjoyed your 'list'

withallmyheart
05-12-2008, 09:26 AM
Great post Conza.
Thank you for sharing this major undertaking.

Uncle_Rahn
05-12-2008, 09:32 AM
Good work! Conza is that you? You little joey....

Knightskye
05-12-2008, 07:04 PM
I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:

Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

Conza88
05-12-2008, 11:44 PM
I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:

Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

Hmmm v. good point. Will have to think of a reworking.

Conza88
05-13-2008, 11:21 PM
Thanks Conza, a lot of people have really enjoyed your 'list'

Great post Conza.
Thank you for sharing this major undertaking.

Good work! Conza is that you? You little joey....

No problem guys. Pleasure is all mine. A man does what he can. :D LoL, heyaa Rahn. ;)


I think they should watch Outfoxed before these two:
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11
If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off. But I think they'd watch Outfoxed.

Considering swapping, Step 3 - The Media is not your information friend, with Step 2. You have been lied too..

I wonder if that makes more sense? What ya think? :)

Conza88
05-18-2008, 05:46 AM
:)

oilboiler
05-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks for that. I copied the post into word and saved it as an html file. I have seen some of these, but others are new.

And ~~~bump~~~

Conza88
05-23-2008, 10:37 AM
Thanks for that. I copied the post into word and saved it as an html file. I have seen some of these, but others are new.

And ~~~bump~~~

Yea, lot of people been contacting me - and asking permission to use my lists on sites.. All get given the go ahead..

Just please let me know before hand. Its polite :)

Conza88
06-12-2008, 10:19 PM
More important than ever.

EternalVigilanc3
07-01-2008, 04:12 PM
That is awesome thank you

pacelli
07-01-2008, 04:39 PM
Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

Conza88
07-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Dang, thanks pacelli theres some good advice in there. :)

pacelli
07-01-2008, 09:08 PM
Dang, thanks pacelli theres some good advice in there. :)

Sure thing. Feel free to ask any further questions about all of these things, usually when I put my psychologist hat on, I become a bit verbose! lol

Nyte
07-01-2008, 10:17 PM
Step 10. Unintended Consequences

Unintended Consequences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_Consequences) by John Ross
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute (http://www.frontsight.com/)
SurvivalBlog.com (http://www.survivalblog.com/index.html)

ronpaulhawaii
07-01-2008, 10:27 PM
Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

Post of the day for me, and great thread Conza...

Conza88
07-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I spouse it's good to remember.. that there are people out there who are 'open' to things..

So blanket campaigning can work. Although... there will be a few nothings & no resulters.. but if you pick up some gems - and wake them up, then that's what makes it worth it.

princessredtights
07-02-2008, 08:15 AM
Conza! WOW!

What a great list - (as all your lists are wonderful)

Our RP group is looking to start a liberty education outreach in the fall- one video per month - (probably) at the public library - and we'll be inviting the public (via newspaper and web) -

would you mind if we used your format?


Thanks -

Karen

revolutionman
07-02-2008, 09:07 AM
awsome list!

raystone
07-02-2008, 09:07 AM
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism
The Truth & Lies of 9/11

If you read them the titles, that alone would scare them off.



Remember when marketing AFTF to mainsteam, to present it as

"From the producer of Trading Places and The Rose, Aaron Russo's America:Freedom to Facism."

Mainstream will buy into it watching it much easier.

nelsonwinters
07-02-2008, 11:01 AM
First I'd like to say excellent post Conza and excellent comments Pacelli. I am very interested in using videos to help educate people. I'm currently involved in creating Operation Education, a web site that pays people to view videos and provide feedback. This way the user feels that not only do we value their time, but we also value their opinion. We can use the feedback to help determine which videos are most effective. Over time, we could get more sophisticated and break down which videos are most effective among different demographics. You can check out our simple report comparing the videos here:

http://operationeducation.org/reports/rptVideos.cfm
(you can review the responses if you click on the number of responses)

I agree with Pacelli that changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is difficult. Fortunately, many people don't know what to believe. Regardless whether this is due to age, or obscurity of a certain topic or whatever, most people don't know what's going on. They're not stupid. They're not asleep. They're drowning! Drowning in too much bad information, too much gossip news (doesn't matter if it's Britney or Barack... just gossip), too much entertainment, too much advertisements and propaganda, too much work, too much change! People are only as smart as the information that they have to make decisions.



Since it was asked in the OP, I've studied psychology through the doctorate level. This subject of changing an individual's fundamental beliefs is extremely complicated. Each person you approach has their own value system which will draw them toward or away from a particular subject. Mental heuristics (i.e. cognitive shortcuts) come into heavy play here.

On a very simple level, a few examples:

1)Someone gives me a 2-hour documentary to watch. I don't feel like sitting through it. I watch the first minute of it and find something more rewarding to do with my time, because I don't like documentaries. The ball game is more rewarding, because I've watched the ball game all of my life.

2) Someone links me to a documentary to watch. The documentary has the word "Fascism" in the title. I immediately conclude that it is a conspiracy-based video and don't bother watching the documentary.

3) Someone gives me a documentary to watch and tells me to "wake up", or they tell me "this is the truth". I feel like they are putting me down, and trying to make me feel like I am stupid and they are smarter than I am. This makes me feel irritated. I immediately decide that anything this person gives me is a reflection of their "one up" approach, thus I will not watch it.

The way to defeat mental heuristics is to apply a highly individualized approach to the individual with whom you are engaged. It helps to do more listening than talking. You will quickly learn the things they value when you hear the vocabulary words they use and the subjects they freely initiate. Hone in on anything that smacks of your value system, reinforce that with nonverbal communication, and verbally redirect the conversation to that particular topic. Jumping around from subject to subject is not advisable. Each person is a long-term campaign, and many of those campaigns may be dead ends. It is sad, but true.

There is also the issue of context. If someone is in the middle of a private activity, and you interrupt that activity, most people will immediately be defensive and suspicious of whatever you tell them.

Finally, examine costs/benefits. There are costs and benefits associated with holding a particular belief system. If the cost of openly evaluating information is the perceived sacrifice of an entrenched belief, it is likely that the person will become defensive and engage in a cognitive heuristic.

Virginia Libertarian
07-02-2008, 11:59 AM
bump forever

goat farmer
07-03-2008, 07:09 AM
This may be something you want to add in there somewhere:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&q=the+energy+non-crisis&ei=Is9sSMmjGKiO4wKWh-SXDw

Mark
07-14-2008, 10:00 AM
This series may help in some regard.
Liberty Sells Itself [1/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr3yEvGOAi8), [2/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4vksazLec), [3/3] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LOyn-vwfVI)




Step 1. Detachment (Time to Open the Mind)
The Matrix: Trilogy
Animal Farm (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9153412213802919416)
1984 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940)
The End of America - Naomi Wolf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc)

Step 2. You have been lied too.
George Carlin (Who Owns You Americans? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg))
How to Create an Angry American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ)
Aaron Russo's: America Freedom to Fascism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173)
The Truth & Lies of 9/11 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145)

Step 3. The Media is not your information friend.
The Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meranT1UzHo)
Good Night & Good Luck (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433383/)
Media-Opoly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEdDd5zsHo)
Spin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353)
Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War On Journalism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428)
Manufacturing Consent (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631882395226827730)

Step 4. The War on Terror, is not what you think.
Don't be a Sucker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk)
American WARNING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Y8hFv8I0)
The Power of Nightmares Part 1, (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-53500833677585746)Part 2, (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876)Part 3 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254)
Taxi To The Dark Side (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7553360276446246577)
The Ground Truth: The Human Cost of War (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5188599301918606321)

Step 5. Government is the problem, not the solution.
The Philosophy of Liberty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I)
The Proper Role of Government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5_N86Pblj0)
The Law (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html) by Frederick Basiat
Revolution: a Manifesto by Ron Paul
Road to Serfdom (http://files.meetup.com/516057/upld-release93pdf.pdf) by Hayek

Step 6. The world is run on self-interest
Atlas Shrugged (http://files.meetup.com/516057/Atlas_Shrugged.pdf)

Step 7. The Money System - what it is & the International Bankers
Money as Debt (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279)
Creature From Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450)
The Price of Oil is not rising, the value of the dollar is falling (http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/oil-gold-commodities-47041507)

Step 8. False left, false right - One party system, two faces of evil.
We are the Ones we've been Waiting For (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7KHUbuhgpQ&NR=1)
Democrats elected to end the Iraq war
America is not a democracy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuninIIpTfc)
An Idea whose time has come (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958)

Step 9. The New World Order
Historic Interview with Aaron Russo (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1956773139549147763)
North American Union & VChip Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo)
Endgame (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261)
Esoteric Agenda (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009)

Cognitive Dissonance Articles
http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm
http://www.pabia.org/Archives/Newsletters/Cognitive%20Dissonance/cognitive_dissonance.htm
http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/cognitive_dissonance.htm
http://tip.psychology.org/festinge.html
http://www.afirstlook.com/archive/cogdiss.cfm?
http://www.colorado.edu/communication/meta-discourses/Theory/dissonance/
http://wwwthesixthestate.blogspot.com/2008/03/imperialism-boot-camp-and-cognitive.html
http://www.perrspectives.com/articles/art_cogdis02.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_628.shtml
http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/resistan.htm


Conza88, I'm loving you're efforts here, including the book list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79751

and Liberty list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=130993

One note though, the 3 "Liberty Sells Itself" youtube links are showing as "Private".

Conza88
07-14-2008, 10:25 AM
Conza88, I'm loving you're efforts here, including the book list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79751

and Liberty list: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=130993

One note though, the 3 "Liberty Sells Itself" youtube links are showing as "Private".

Thanks! :D

I've fixed up those links, so they should be all good to go now. :D

When I get more time, I'll be rejigging / updating all my lists :D.

Conza88
07-14-2008, 10:26 AM
This may be something you want to add in there somewhere:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&q=the+energy+non-crisis&ei=Is9sSMmjGKiO4wKWh-SXDw

True. thanks. Added in. ;)

Mark
07-15-2008, 01:54 AM
Thanks! :D

I've fixed up those links, so they should be all good to go now. :D

When I get more time, I'll be rejigging / updating all my lists :D.

Awesome! Greatly appreciated!

JosephTheLibertarian
08-18-2008, 12:50 AM
hmm. The more I watch Animal Farm, the more I come to the realization that it's nothing but communist propaganda.

Conza88
08-18-2008, 01:16 AM
hmm. The more I watch Animal Farm, the more I come to the realization that it's nothing but communist propaganda.

You're suggesting it departs from the book? I'll take another look.

Otherwise, if it doesn't - you've clearly failed to read it right. It's an epic criticism of communism.. not an advocation.. lol :D

liberteebell
08-18-2008, 05:37 AM
Great post, Conza! You and pacelli have it right: baby steps, finding a common concern and I would add, listen a lot and ask a lot of questions and you'll find an "in". It also helps to be on your best behavior. :p

Dumping too much information on people at one time is like bashing someone in the head with a sledgehammer and expecting them to wake up.

Like pacelli, I love this quote:


“Knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.”~ Plato

Indeed!




Some resources that I've shared with others and that also helped with my own waking up process:

The US Constitution (How many people have actually read it? One of my missions is to get people to understand the Rule of Law and the fact that the function of the federal government is to protect Life, Liberty and Property, not to "do things for people")

George Washington's Farewell Address

War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler

Not Yours to Give by Davy Crockett

The history of how the Ottoman Empire was divided up (those events affect what's happening today and history doesn't happen in a vacuum)

The Uncle Eric Series by Richard Maybury (great, interesting and easy to read intro to economics and the monetary system)

The Balfour Declaration and its relevance to Middle East unrest

The history of US intervention in the Middle East

Osama bin Laden's Fatwa (the motives are outlined)

A Foreign Policy of Freedom by Ron Paul

The Law by Frederic Bastiat

Anything by John Stossel

The Neo-Con agenda: Project for a New American Century: Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century.

ewizacft
08-18-2008, 08:49 AM
I have not read the whole thread but, America is not a Democracy under step 8 has been removed by Youtube.

shida
09-03-2008, 08:22 AM
Population Reduction
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/lmoret2.htm

Someone put this interview in the documentaries section (thanks fatjohn.) Not sure if it fits the description of 'gentle awakening' though. I still feel pretty shell shocked after watching it.

steve005
09-03-2008, 11:35 AM
bump

Conza88
09-11-2008, 06:44 AM
Freedomain Radio: Philosophy Debating Tips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39XlvgGXpYU)


Helpful.... :D Very.

Conza88
09-14-2008, 01:29 AM
Bump for Sally08.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-14-2008, 06:19 AM
You're suggesting it departs from the book? I'll take another look.

Otherwise, if it doesn't - you've clearly failed to read it right. It's an epic criticism of communism.. not an advocation.. lol :D

It is anti-communism but you don't see that right away lol

Conza88
09-16-2008, 09:59 AM
It is anti-communism but you don't see that right away lol

Lol.. :D

nullvalu
09-16-2008, 10:05 AM
It is anti-communism but you don't see that right away lol

one of my favorite books.. my avatar is Napoleon.

Mortikhi
09-16-2008, 03:37 PM
bump

thehighwaymanq
09-16-2008, 04:02 PM
This is such an amazing post, I'm bumping it again!

Captain Bryan
09-22-2008, 03:11 PM
Bump.
I find this thread important.:)

Mortikhi
09-22-2008, 03:27 PM
it needs to be stickied

Captain Bryan
09-22-2008, 09:52 PM
it needs to be stickied
Yeah, I agree.:)

Original_Intent
09-22-2008, 10:04 PM
They Live should be in either the first or third sections. Ilike it anyway, even if it is a B movie.

DirtMcGirt
09-22-2008, 10:13 PM
Conza's list a.k.a. "The Red Pill"

Captain Bryan
09-27-2008, 01:00 PM
I used to be able to find this thread on google by typing in "Blueprint for a wake up". It would be the first result.
Not anymore. :(

QueenB4Liberty
09-27-2008, 02:58 PM
excellent post, thank you so much for putting this together.

I gotta say the link"America is not a democracy" was taken down though. :(

Mortikhi
09-27-2008, 06:14 PM
sticky

Conza88
09-28-2008, 02:59 AM
They Live should be in either the first or third sections. Ilike it anyway, even if it is a B movie.

Goood stuff. Since making that Must See Movies thread; (it was made to supplement this).. I'll go through; see the list and add the most important / best ones I think...

That whole movie list essentially fufills a fair bit of this though.. subtely... some people need it really spelt out for them though; hence the other various links (degree of openness) :D


Conza's list a.k.a. "The Red Pill"

:D !!


excellent post, thank you so much for putting this together.

I gotta say the link"America is not a democracy" was taken down though. :(

Yeah we gotta try find that! I think I may have dloaded it. Will search.

Captain Bryan
10-13-2008, 09:28 PM
bump

Conza88
10-13-2008, 09:43 PM
bump

I need to update this... exams and all that for the next few weeks.. will be done after a few other things, :D

Captain Bryan
10-14-2008, 12:11 PM
I need to update this... exams and all that for the next few weeks.. will be done after a few other things, :D

Awesome, sounds great!
Take your time. Exams are important too!:)

Conza88
11-18-2008, 08:53 AM
I found the America is not a democracy video... :D

Added include; that... also more movies.. And "the Big picture"

heavenlyboy34
11-18-2008, 01:56 PM
I need to update this... exams and all that for the next few weeks.. will be done after a few other things, :D

Good luck on the exams, Conza! :)

Conza88
11-18-2008, 03:52 PM
Good luck on the exams, Conza! :)

Good luck on the results! :eek:

Essays in them mostly.. short answers...

Saying regulation is the cause of the crisis ain't a way to score high marks... :)

Conza88
11-18-2008, 10:22 PM
bumpz

Captain Bryan
12-12-2008, 02:43 PM
Bump!

Conza88
01-13-2009, 11:41 PM
:D

Conza88
01-19-2009, 09:31 AM
This onesss gooooood.

Cults: The Wave (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4689717947890475769&ei=W3F0SZ_YHJaWiQKE35TsCg)

slacker921
01-19-2009, 10:04 AM
It has to be televised.. A series of 30 second commercials can cover this material. It would be effective if repeated often for a couple of weeks. See how the Pickens Plan did it for example. Ask the average non Internet user how we can reduce our dependence on foreign oil and they'll spout the lines fed to them by the Pickens Plan commercials.

A PAC could accept donations and run them in a targeted area each week.

Captain Bryan
03-30-2009, 02:01 AM
Bump

anaconda
03-30-2009, 02:24 AM
Nice list. Great plan of action for people you have personal contact with and has pretty much been my approach with friends and family. My vehicle for mass dissemination is www.TrueWorldHistory.info (http://www.TrueWorldHistory.info). The number of people that those of us on these forums have personal contact with compared to the total number of people out there that we really need to reach is miniscule. That's why in addition to working on individuals with what I think they can handle, I am mass marketing the TrueWorldHistory.info website to reach as many as I can that I don't have personal contact with.

Wow! Sweeeet...

The menu of great looking menu icons is a great way to make the videos compelling to watch and makes for a super nice type of cataloging tool. I'm gonna spread your link around for sure. Thanks for the excellent contribution.

Conza88
04-30-2009, 04:19 AM
bump for the haters.

Captain Bryan
09-28-2009, 12:47 AM
Man, there's got to be a way to fix this thread...:(

Live_Free_Or_Die
09-28-2009, 01:50 AM
nt

Conza88
09-28-2009, 02:12 AM
Man, there's got to be a way to fix this thread...:(

Admins be havin' none of it. Same goes with the must see documentaries one. Complete killed with parsing.. :(

Captain Bryan
09-28-2009, 03:21 AM
I sent them a message that might fix it.
You'll need to edit your post if it goes through, but at least it's an option..

Conza88
04-25-2016, 01:30 AM
I sent them a message that might fix it.
You'll need to edit your post if it goes through, but at least it's an option..

Similar - no time to edit etc. but could pass on, for someone to take up the task.

For the new era.

Son_of_Liberty90
04-25-2016, 09:46 PM
Similar - no time to edit etc. but could pass on, for someone to take up the task.

For the new era.

What are you referring to?

Conza88
04-26-2016, 04:48 AM
What are you referring to?


Man, there's got to be a way to fix this thread...:(

^ ...

kfarnan
04-26-2016, 08:57 AM
So much easier to wake up today than it was for most of us, who had to read real books at libraries, or attend lecture.