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05-01-2008, 12:38 PM
One of the stories of this campaign should be the grass fire of freedom spreading throughout the country.

I am basically a poor person but am willing to spend at least a few hundred bucks a year to help the cause.

I just got an email from Ron Paul Forums about a May 1st money bomb for a candidate for the House named Vern Mckinley. I just don't know what to make of this. How do I know if this is legit? I looked at Vern's website and it's a real mess. I can barely tell what he stands for when I look at it. He only seems to mention what his opponent, Mr. Wolf, stands for. Vern makes NO MENTION of Iraq, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Federal Income Tax, Torture, or the Federal Reserve.

I am DYING to give some money to help Ron Paul people get elected to the Congress, whether they are Democrats or Republicans, but I don't know who to give it to.

The Revolution could wield great power if we could get unified with our money bombing.

I think it would help greatly if Dr. Paul would endorse candidates. Even suggest donation days.

Vern McKinley may the best candidate ever, but it is a real struggle to see it in his website.

I am going to call his headquarters and then call the RP headquaters to voice my concern.

I know there is some information on ron Paul Forums about freedom candidates. I will check it out. Thanks to those who have contributed.

I will also look into this operation cat herder posted on this site.

05-01-2008, 12:43 PM
Check out www.paulcongress.com, click on "Federal Candidates"

You will find many Ron Paul candidates who need your support!

05-01-2008, 12:43 PM
Hi Anaconda, hold on, and we'll get some staff of his to answer this. I have met Vern and he is the real deal.



05-01-2008, 12:46 PM
Also check out BJ Lawson. He went to the same med school as Ron Paul even. :D

05-01-2008, 12:46 PM

Yep, Vern is the real deal!

You will find him on page 4 of www.paulcongress.com

05-01-2008, 12:49 PM
Also check out BJ Lawson. He went to the same med school as Ron Paul even. :D

Yeah, not to take anything away from Vern as he is a great candidate who needs our support, but Lawson is my personal favorite. http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/

Regardless, there are many ways to support the revolution, financially and/or otherwise. Be prepared stick around for the long haul!

05-01-2008, 12:50 PM
All these candidates are great,

but I am partial to BRENT SANDERS ("torchbearer") who is a LONGSTANDING and VERY ACTIVE member of this forum!

Bradley in DC
05-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Vern McKinley is the real deal. He has been a Ron Paul admirer since the early 1980s, like myself.

The website is in the process of being updated (the delay has been my fault, sorry, working on issue pages and answering trade association/PAC surveys). We are running this race to win first the primary and then the general. The website, press statements, public interviews, etc. are all geared at winning over first likely Republican primary voters. If you want to help another candidate who is running to educate voters only, there are better choices. This is a Republican district--if we win the primary, then we have a 57% chance of Vern being the next Ron Paul Republican in Congress.

Vern has written extensively in public policy journals and other academic publications--including on the Federal Reserve. Because of his expertise, he is being interviewed on those issues by the national media:

http://ml-implode.com/viewnews/2008-04-24_InterviewWithCongressionalCandidateVernMcKinley OnTheFinancialCri.htmll


Here's a summary of his public policy position papers, etc.:


Here are some of my posts with his press coverage and interviews:



10th District Blogger Supports McKinley, Criticizes Wolf
The blogger at apocryph.org has taken positive notice of Vern McKinley's
campaign and has some harsh criticism of Frank Wolf.

A while back I mentioned Vern McKinley’s 10th district congressional bid.
He’s gathered enough signatures to make it on the ballot for the Republican
primary, and is gearing up to fight the Feckless Wonder, congressman [...]

McKinley's Ballot Success Mentioned In Winchester Star
Vern McKinley was mentioned in the Winchester Star yesterday. The article
mentioned the successful effort to get on the ballot in opposition to Frank
Through McKinley’s Web site, www.mckinleyforcongress.com, the candidate has
informed voters that he has met the threshold that requires 1,000 signatures of
qualified voters in the 10th Congressional District to get on [...]

It's Official: McKinley Is On The Ballot

Contact: Brad Jansen
This week the McKinley for Congress campaign submitted petitions with
signatures of registered voters to the Chairman of the Republican Party in the
10th Congressional District. Virginia law requires 1,000 signatures of qualified
voters in the Congressional District to get on the ballot for the June 10, 2008
primary election. The General [...]

Grassroots Supporters Introduce Money Bomb For McKinley
The grassroots supporters of the Vern McKinley For Congress Campaign have
invented a novel fund raiser mimicking Ron Paul's now famous "money bomb"

On Thursday, May 1st, 2008 supporters are encouraged to donate generously to
the campaign according to the money bomb website at: MayDayMcKinley.com

This along with other fund raising efforts are certainly welcomed and [...]

Vern McKinley Addresses The Republican Liberty Caucus Of Virginia [Video]
Vern McKinley addressed the Republican Liberty Caucus Of Virginia on March
22nd, 2008. Video is in two parts. Thanks to Rick Sincere and his blog for
recording and posting the speech originally.



Winchester Star Newspaper Covers Vern
The Winchester Star covered Vern McKinley's campaign earlier this month in an
article about Virginia's 10th District House race.
McKinley, who appeared at the mass meeting of Winchester Republicans on March
26, said he wants to offer the voters of the 10th District someone with Reagan
values and a desire for smaller government.

"Since our launch of [...]

McLean Connection Covers McKinley's House Race
The McLean Connection covered the 10th district Congressional race earlier this
month. In the article Vern McKinley is critical of his opponent Frank Wolf on
earmarks and spending.
McKinley decided to run against Frank Wolf in the primary after doing some
research on the congressman during the 2006 election. McKinley was upset that
the National Taxpayers [...]

Vern McKinley To Address Clarke County GOP Mass Meeting
Vern McKinley will address those in attendance at the upcoming Clarke County
Republican Mass Meeting on April 22nd, 2008 at 7:30pm. Fellow limited government
Reagan Republicans in the area are encouraged to attend, meet, and listen to
Location: Old Court House, 102 N. Church Street, Berryville, VA 22611

Dick Heller and Vern McKinley Get Noticed At Gun Show
From the Armed Canadian blog comes an article about meeting Dick Heller who
happened to be present trying to get out the vote at Vern McKinley's campaign
table at the Nation's Gun Show last weekend.
He was at the table for Vern McKinley, who is campaigning for VA Congressional
District 10. He introduced himself and I [...]

05-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Torchbearer is a good man to have on your side!

05-01-2008, 01:43 PM
The only thing I'd add to Brad's post is to check out the interview linked below with McKinley on Liberty Maven... He's obviously a busy guy so hopefully we'll have part 3 of the interview completed soon...

Part 1:

Part 2:

Also for a nice quick blurb on some of his positions see the Loudoun Times article released yesterday:


05-01-2008, 01:51 PM
Yes, Bradley, it was me, "Anaconda." that called you on the phone. Thanks for the update posting with all of the links.

I had a look at the "debate" with Mr. McKinley and Congressman Nadler. Kind of looked like Mr. McKinley believes in tougher rules for people considering bankruptcy. My concern here is several fold...

First of all. I believe that the Constitution expressly provides for relief from debts. This results collectively in the financing of risk-laden entrepreneurship which is vital for economic growth. I would rather see the cost of capital increased to cover the default rate rather than stifle economic creativity and make debtor-slaves out of people. Furthermore, if this is Mr. McKinley's position on this issue then I wonder from the outset about his philosophy regarding the U.S. Constitution and that of the founding fathers. If I make a capital contribution in a stock offering to a corporate start-up, I don't get my money back if they squander it and I don't get to enslave them. The main point should be whether the investors in companies who issue credit cards to risky consumers are sufficiently profitable. If they are not-don't invest. But I don't understand why those investors would expect the Congress to invent unconstitutional laws to lessen their risk of doing business.

I will read on about the Mr. McKinley nonetheless, as I know you have told me that you are a Ron Paul supporter and we need more people like him in Congress.

Thanks again.