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[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
From: Ike Hall <ike@ronpaul2008.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:28 -0400
Subject: FORWARD THIS: Delegates For Ron Paul Announcement
[ Admin note: Please read and follow the forum guidelines, forwarding this message as-is proclaims to have the support of the official campaign without direct verification. RPFs.com has been notified that Ike Hall does not endorsement this.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22
+ No posting of any proclaimed campaign announcement that is not supported with a link to the campaigns homepage or other directly verifiable source. ]
Dear Ron Paul Supporter,
I would ask you to please read this letter, then FORWARD IT to as many other Ron Paul supporters, MeetUps, Yahoo! groups, and email lists that you possibly can. I think you'll see why when you read it.
Yours in liberty,
Ike Hall
Georgia State Coordinator
Ron Paul 2008
------ Forwarded Message
From: Bill Greene <bill@delegatesforronpaul.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FORWARD THIS: Delegates For Ron Paul Announcement
Fellow Ron Paul Supporters,
We have a chance to WIN at the Republican National Convention... but our backup plan has even MORE of a chance. Please take a couple of minutes to read this letter, and let me explain.
I am an elected Alternate Delegate to the Republican National Convention, from Georgia.
I am also a Ron Paul supporter. I have been one since heading up North Carolina Students for Ron Paul during his first campaign for President, in 1987-1988. I then followed Dr. Paul out of the Libertarian Party and into the GOP, in order to help begin the process of bringing the party back to its true conservative, limited government roots.
I am writing to you today to let you know about an exciting project we have launched, and to ask you to help us make this project a success. It's a new political committee, which operates much like a PAC, but exists to support delegates only.
It's called DELEGATES FOR RON PAUL FOR VICE PRESIDENT:
http://www.DelegatesForRonPaul.com/
Please don't stop reading. I KNOW we are trying to get Dr. Paul elected as president. I'm right in there with you.
In fact, this Delegate Committee (DC - like a PAC) can be a big boost towards achieving that goal, in spite of its name.
You see, we've created this committee with the primary goal of raising money -- a LOT of money -- enough to send every single Ron Paul supporter who has been elected as a delegate or alternate to the 2008 Republican National Convention in Minneapolis/St. Paul.
We understand that the goal in Minnesota is the presidential nomination. But that can't happen unless we can get all of the people who have worked hard, in order to win their state's delegate elections, UP there to Minnesota.
That's where we come in.
We anticipate that there will be at least 500 delegates and alternates attending the RNC who are Ron Paul supporters (regardless of who they're "pledged" to vote for in the first round of presidential nominations). At an average cost of $3000-5000 per person, there will be a lot of people who really can't afford to go, who are willing to sleep in cars and eat peanut butter sandwiches in order to have the opportunity to affect CHANGE at that convention.
We don't think they should have to do that. That's why we're raising the money to send them.
Supporters of the Ron Paul R3VOLution have come through for the cause, time and again. Now, we need one more push -- and we'll have the chance to accomplish the immediate goal at the National Convention.
But it's going to cost at least $500,000 just to START -- and we need YOUR help to do it:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/
Our Delegate Committee is the "public face" of the current independent effort to get Ron Paul elected at the National Convention. As a "political committee" under 11 CFR 110.14(b)(2) we are committed to two main goals: (1) to raise and donate enough money to send to the 2008 Republican National Convention every single Ron Paul supporter who has been elected as a delegate or alternate delegate; and (2) to promote the candidacy of Ron Paul to every delegate and alternate delegate attending the convention.
As you know by now, Ron Paul CAN still win the Republican nomination for President. Ron Paul will likely have at least 1/4 of the delegates at the Republican National Convention ready to throw their unpledged votes to him if it gets to a second vote (and maybe even on the first vote).
Out of all the delegates heading for the Republican National Convention:
- 471 delegates are bound all the way through the entire convention (which means they can only vote for whomever won the popular vote in their state); however, 14 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot only. These guys have to follow the results of their state election on the first ballot only. After that, if there is not a majority, they are free to vote as they please. If McCain doesn't get over 50% on the first ballot, these guys all go into play after the first vote (however, 156 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out, and 5 of these are already bound to Ron Paul).
- 455 will be bound through two ballots, and then they are free to vote as they please (however, 135 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out, and 5 of these are already bound to Ron Paul).
- 246 will be bound through three ballots, and then they are free to vote as they please (however, 16 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out).
- 463 are unbound all the way through the entire convention.
- 126 are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being Party Delegates (State Chairmen, State Committeemen, State Committeewomen).
All of this means that: (1) there are 910 unbound delegates available from the first ballot (plus another 10 delegates are bound to Ron Paul); (2) if McCain can be held to less than 1191 votes on the first ballot, there will be 1319 unbound delegates available for the second vote - that is, a majority of delegates will be unbound (plus another 5 delegates are bound to Ron Paul). Should a third ballot be necessary, there will be 1639 unbound delegates available (and 1869 available should further ballots be necessary).
[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
It only takes a majority of the delegations from as few as five states supporting a presidential candidate to force a floor vote on that candidate (see Rule No. 40b at http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm ). If there are 1191 Ron Paul supporters voting as unpledged delegates at the Republican National Convention, Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination - IF it gets to a second or third vote.
According to the most accurate record of how delegates are assigned at http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R-PU.phtml , as of April 28th, McCain has 1067 bound or pledged delegates. He STILL needs 124 bound delegates to reach 1191 bound delegates and "sew it up" before the convention. (NOTE: In fact, McCain's "Hard count" of pledged delegates, "the preference as originally assigned," [http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R-HS.phtml ], is still only 823, leaving an additional 368 "hard" bound delegates to go.)
Of the remaining states, here's the breakdown:
Indiana - May 6 - 27 bound and 30 unbound
North Carolina - May 6 - 69 bound
Nebraska - May 13 - 30 bound and 3 unbound
Kentucky - May 20 - 45 bound
Oregon - May 20 - 27 bound and 3 unbound
Idaho - May 27 - 26 bound and 6 unbound
South Dakota - June 3 - 24 bound and 3 unbound
New Mexico - June 3 - 29 bound and 3 unbound
So McCain still needs at least 124 more bound delegates to reach 1191, out of the 274 left. As we know, Ron Paul supporters have gotten very involved in the actual delegate selection process (not the primary and caucus votes, but the precinct, county, district and state conventions where delegates are selected to go to the RNC). They've quickly learned the ropes and rules of the process, and have reportedly gained sizeable minorities, if not outright majorities, in delegations from districts and states across the country. (Long-time Republican strategist Patrick Ruffini believes that the number of Ron Paul supporters attending the convention as delegates may be as high as 20-30%; the best estimate is that at a minimum there will be at least 500 there.)
This is obviously a VERY LONG SHOT effort. It's worth the try -- but there is a "backup" approach that can be engaged, and CAN BE WON on the first vote: The presidential nominee and the vice presidential nominee are NOT voted on together, and delegates are NOT bound to vote for the VP choice of the presidential candidate they may otherwise be bound to support. RNC rules say that the vice presidential nominee is voted on in the same manner as the presidential nominee (but in a separate vote). So, should McCain win the nomination, if a majority of delegates at the convention do not vote for his pick for VP, his pick cannot win the nomination for VP.
Once again, if a majority of the delegations from as few as five states support another vice-presidential candidate, they can force a floor vote on that alternative (see again Rule No. 40b at http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm ). So, should McCain win the nomination, and should the majority of at least five state delegations force a floor vote on Ron Paul for VP, and should Ron Paul then receive a majority of total delegate votes...
Ron Paul can WIN the VP nomination.
This will mean that we have to convince enough delegates coming to the convention -- who aren't already Ron Paul supporters -- to support the ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE for the Vice Presidential nomination.
To do this, we also need to raise the money to fund informational campaigns targeted at national delegates, potential delegates, GOP officials and bigwigs, utilizing email, direct mail, phone banking, "grasstops" (person-to-person) lobbying, and more (it is much easier and less costly to campaign to 4,600 people coming to one location than running in 50 primaries and caucuses with 20 million voters!).
The greatest tool will be giving away thousands of copies of "The Revolution: A Manifesto," with one going to every single GOP delegate that arrives in Minneapolis/St. Paul in September. In fact, this should not be their first "touch" - a copy should already have been sent to their homes before they even left, along with at least four short informational DVDs on Ron Paul.
But it's going to cost at LEAST another $10,000 to send all of this information -- and we need YOUR help to do it:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/
The bottom line is, we are trying to get OUR people to the convention through our "Adopt A Delegate" campaign (https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/ ), and we're trying to convince all of the OTHER delegates going to the convention to vote for Ron Paul on the floor of the convention through our "Convert A Delegate" campaign (https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/ ).
Will you help us do this?
Is it worth one more moment of sacrificial giving to push the Ron Paul R3VOLution OVER THE TOP?
Is it worth one more MONEY BOMB to turn this country around -- by turning the Republican Party around?
WE CAN STILL WIN -- but not without YOUR help.
Check us out at http://www.DelegatesForRonPaul.com/ -- then PLEASE, make your BEST contribution right away.
Thank you.
For the R3VOLution,
Bill Greene
Delegates for Ron Paul for Vice President
P.S. It was another freedom fighter with the last name of Paul -- Alice Paul, the suffragist -- who originally said, "If not us, who? If not now, when?" This is our chance to not only influence history, but to MAKE history.
Opportunities like this don't come along very often in the course of human events. Let's not miss it. Please, help with your best donation NOW:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/
Thank you.
http://www.delegatesforronpaul.com/
[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
.
[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
From: Ike Hall <ike@ronpaul2008.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:28 -0400
Subject: FORWARD THIS: Delegates For Ron Paul Announcement
[ Admin note: Please read and follow the forum guidelines, forwarding this message as-is proclaims to have the support of the official campaign without direct verification. RPFs.com has been notified that Ike Hall does not endorsement this.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22
+ No posting of any proclaimed campaign announcement that is not supported with a link to the campaigns homepage or other directly verifiable source. ]
Dear Ron Paul Supporter,
I would ask you to please read this letter, then FORWARD IT to as many other Ron Paul supporters, MeetUps, Yahoo! groups, and email lists that you possibly can. I think you'll see why when you read it.
Yours in liberty,
Ike Hall
Georgia State Coordinator
Ron Paul 2008
------ Forwarded Message
From: Bill Greene <bill@delegatesforronpaul.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FORWARD THIS: Delegates For Ron Paul Announcement
Fellow Ron Paul Supporters,
We have a chance to WIN at the Republican National Convention... but our backup plan has even MORE of a chance. Please take a couple of minutes to read this letter, and let me explain.
I am an elected Alternate Delegate to the Republican National Convention, from Georgia.
I am also a Ron Paul supporter. I have been one since heading up North Carolina Students for Ron Paul during his first campaign for President, in 1987-1988. I then followed Dr. Paul out of the Libertarian Party and into the GOP, in order to help begin the process of bringing the party back to its true conservative, limited government roots.
I am writing to you today to let you know about an exciting project we have launched, and to ask you to help us make this project a success. It's a new political committee, which operates much like a PAC, but exists to support delegates only.
It's called DELEGATES FOR RON PAUL FOR VICE PRESIDENT:
http://www.DelegatesForRonPaul.com/
Please don't stop reading. I KNOW we are trying to get Dr. Paul elected as president. I'm right in there with you.
In fact, this Delegate Committee (DC - like a PAC) can be a big boost towards achieving that goal, in spite of its name.
You see, we've created this committee with the primary goal of raising money -- a LOT of money -- enough to send every single Ron Paul supporter who has been elected as a delegate or alternate to the 2008 Republican National Convention in Minneapolis/St. Paul.
We understand that the goal in Minnesota is the presidential nomination. But that can't happen unless we can get all of the people who have worked hard, in order to win their state's delegate elections, UP there to Minnesota.
That's where we come in.
We anticipate that there will be at least 500 delegates and alternates attending the RNC who are Ron Paul supporters (regardless of who they're "pledged" to vote for in the first round of presidential nominations). At an average cost of $3000-5000 per person, there will be a lot of people who really can't afford to go, who are willing to sleep in cars and eat peanut butter sandwiches in order to have the opportunity to affect CHANGE at that convention.
We don't think they should have to do that. That's why we're raising the money to send them.
Supporters of the Ron Paul R3VOLution have come through for the cause, time and again. Now, we need one more push -- and we'll have the chance to accomplish the immediate goal at the National Convention.
But it's going to cost at least $500,000 just to START -- and we need YOUR help to do it:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/
Our Delegate Committee is the "public face" of the current independent effort to get Ron Paul elected at the National Convention. As a "political committee" under 11 CFR 110.14(b)(2) we are committed to two main goals: (1) to raise and donate enough money to send to the 2008 Republican National Convention every single Ron Paul supporter who has been elected as a delegate or alternate delegate; and (2) to promote the candidacy of Ron Paul to every delegate and alternate delegate attending the convention.
As you know by now, Ron Paul CAN still win the Republican nomination for President. Ron Paul will likely have at least 1/4 of the delegates at the Republican National Convention ready to throw their unpledged votes to him if it gets to a second vote (and maybe even on the first vote).
Out of all the delegates heading for the Republican National Convention:
- 471 delegates are bound all the way through the entire convention (which means they can only vote for whomever won the popular vote in their state); however, 14 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot only. These guys have to follow the results of their state election on the first ballot only. After that, if there is not a majority, they are free to vote as they please. If McCain doesn't get over 50% on the first ballot, these guys all go into play after the first vote (however, 156 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out, and 5 of these are already bound to Ron Paul).
- 455 will be bound through two ballots, and then they are free to vote as they please (however, 135 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out, and 5 of these are already bound to Ron Paul).
- 246 will be bound through three ballots, and then they are free to vote as they please (however, 16 of these are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being bound to candidates who have dropped out).
- 463 are unbound all the way through the entire convention.
- 126 are unbound all the way through the entire convention due to being Party Delegates (State Chairmen, State Committeemen, State Committeewomen).
All of this means that: (1) there are 910 unbound delegates available from the first ballot (plus another 10 delegates are bound to Ron Paul); (2) if McCain can be held to less than 1191 votes on the first ballot, there will be 1319 unbound delegates available for the second vote - that is, a majority of delegates will be unbound (plus another 5 delegates are bound to Ron Paul). Should a third ballot be necessary, there will be 1639 unbound delegates available (and 1869 available should further ballots be necessary).
[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
It only takes a majority of the delegations from as few as five states supporting a presidential candidate to force a floor vote on that candidate (see Rule No. 40b at http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm ). If there are 1191 Ron Paul supporters voting as unpledged delegates at the Republican National Convention, Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination - IF it gets to a second or third vote.
According to the most accurate record of how delegates are assigned at http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R-PU.phtml , as of April 28th, McCain has 1067 bound or pledged delegates. He STILL needs 124 bound delegates to reach 1191 bound delegates and "sew it up" before the convention. (NOTE: In fact, McCain's "Hard count" of pledged delegates, "the preference as originally assigned," [http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/R-HS.phtml ], is still only 823, leaving an additional 368 "hard" bound delegates to go.)
Of the remaining states, here's the breakdown:
Indiana - May 6 - 27 bound and 30 unbound
North Carolina - May 6 - 69 bound
Nebraska - May 13 - 30 bound and 3 unbound
Kentucky - May 20 - 45 bound
Oregon - May 20 - 27 bound and 3 unbound
Idaho - May 27 - 26 bound and 6 unbound
South Dakota - June 3 - 24 bound and 3 unbound
New Mexico - June 3 - 29 bound and 3 unbound
So McCain still needs at least 124 more bound delegates to reach 1191, out of the 274 left. As we know, Ron Paul supporters have gotten very involved in the actual delegate selection process (not the primary and caucus votes, but the precinct, county, district and state conventions where delegates are selected to go to the RNC). They've quickly learned the ropes and rules of the process, and have reportedly gained sizeable minorities, if not outright majorities, in delegations from districts and states across the country. (Long-time Republican strategist Patrick Ruffini believes that the number of Ron Paul supporters attending the convention as delegates may be as high as 20-30%; the best estimate is that at a minimum there will be at least 500 there.)
This is obviously a VERY LONG SHOT effort. It's worth the try -- but there is a "backup" approach that can be engaged, and CAN BE WON on the first vote: The presidential nominee and the vice presidential nominee are NOT voted on together, and delegates are NOT bound to vote for the VP choice of the presidential candidate they may otherwise be bound to support. RNC rules say that the vice presidential nominee is voted on in the same manner as the presidential nominee (but in a separate vote). So, should McCain win the nomination, if a majority of delegates at the convention do not vote for his pick for VP, his pick cannot win the nomination for VP.
Once again, if a majority of the delegations from as few as five states support another vice-presidential candidate, they can force a floor vote on that alternative (see again Rule No. 40b at http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm ). So, should McCain win the nomination, and should the majority of at least five state delegations force a floor vote on Ron Paul for VP, and should Ron Paul then receive a majority of total delegate votes...
Ron Paul can WIN the VP nomination.
This will mean that we have to convince enough delegates coming to the convention -- who aren't already Ron Paul supporters -- to support the ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE for the Vice Presidential nomination.
To do this, we also need to raise the money to fund informational campaigns targeted at national delegates, potential delegates, GOP officials and bigwigs, utilizing email, direct mail, phone banking, "grasstops" (person-to-person) lobbying, and more (it is much easier and less costly to campaign to 4,600 people coming to one location than running in 50 primaries and caucuses with 20 million voters!).
The greatest tool will be giving away thousands of copies of "The Revolution: A Manifesto," with one going to every single GOP delegate that arrives in Minneapolis/St. Paul in September. In fact, this should not be their first "touch" - a copy should already have been sent to their homes before they even left, along with at least four short informational DVDs on Ron Paul.
But it's going to cost at LEAST another $10,000 to send all of this information -- and we need YOUR help to do it:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/
The bottom line is, we are trying to get OUR people to the convention through our "Adopt A Delegate" campaign (https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/ ), and we're trying to convince all of the OTHER delegates going to the convention to vote for Ron Paul on the floor of the convention through our "Convert A Delegate" campaign (https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/ ).
Will you help us do this?
Is it worth one more moment of sacrificial giving to push the Ron Paul R3VOLution OVER THE TOP?
Is it worth one more MONEY BOMB to turn this country around -- by turning the Republican Party around?
WE CAN STILL WIN -- but not without YOUR help.
Check us out at http://www.DelegatesForRonPaul.com/ -- then PLEASE, make your BEST contribution right away.
Thank you.
For the R3VOLution,
Bill Greene
Delegates for Ron Paul for Vice President
P.S. It was another freedom fighter with the last name of Paul -- Alice Paul, the suffragist -- who originally said, "If not us, who? If not now, when?" This is our chance to not only influence history, but to MAKE history.
Opportunities like this don't come along very often in the course of human events. Let's not miss it. Please, help with your best donation NOW:
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpadopt/
https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rpdvd/
Thank you.
http://www.delegatesforronpaul.com/
[Admin note- please see post below by Debbie Hopper, Ron Paul 2008 PCC - National Field Director. As noted, this is not endorsed by the official campaign.]
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