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Sarge
04-29-2008, 06:09 PM
Note what they intend to do if this happens. No phones.

As he called three for three, I tend to believe he could have an inside on what he is saying.

http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040467-007,00,00.html

RSLudlum
04-29-2008, 06:34 PM
has anybody else validated his claim that the gov't has a working plan to cut all communication in the event of another terrorist attack?

aravoth
04-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Note what they intend to do if this happens. No phones.

As he called three for three, I tend to believe he could have an inside on what he is saying.

http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040467-007,00,00.html

The amount of shit this guy has done in his life, well..., lets just say you don't experience the things he has without generating enormous amounts of contacts, and people that owe you favors within multiple intelligence communities.

aravoth
04-29-2008, 06:37 PM
has anybody else validated his claim that the gov't has a working plan to cut all communication in the event of another terrorist attack?

I know that the government can gain control of most lines of communication, even vhf and uhf in the event of an emergency, it one of those pesky tyrannical executive orders.

Mach
04-29-2008, 06:41 PM
Gee, inside information coming from an insider. When the cops get a person who keeps predicting crimes before they even happen, they arrest and investigate that person big time, then watch'em............ because they can't be that stupid. On top of that, people have been predicting something was going to happen before Bush left office for years. Out with a bang! If something happens within the next couple of months, you know who's doors to knock on. Could you imagine an Israeli Agent pushing fear on the US? Wow, have monkeys flown out of your butt yet?!
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aravoth
04-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Could you imagine an Israeli Agent pushing fear on the US? Wow, have monkeys flown out of your butt yet?!
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Didn't even think of that, excellent point.

DealzOnWheelz
04-30-2008, 09:19 AM
the other reason is he could then postpone elections because of martial law

Conza88
04-30-2008, 09:31 AM
Ah I can't find the article, the threads broken :confused:
And sarge, are you from aus?

Sarge
04-30-2008, 09:36 AM
Time will tell.

The message is avoid high risk areas when you can.

We are still going to stay at the hotel mentioned, next month, as I don't intend to stop living. We already have our reservations and I am not changing them.

It is hard not to stay at a big hotel in Vegas, so which one do you pick?

Conza88
04-30-2008, 09:40 AM
Link doesn't work for me. :(

acptulsa
04-30-2008, 10:17 AM
Link's still down. Don't expect we'll see it again. Unfortunately, the "risk area" is beginning to look like Seattle.

Then again, the exercises going on during 9/11 removed the squadrons to Alaska. Maybe Seattle is just the place to be!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=135066

Sarge
04-30-2008, 10:24 AM
I can't access the link any more to repost. I found it again but can't get access.

His name is Juval Aviv. You can google his name and see his background.

He has warned the potential for bombings in 5-8 major and rural areas in the next couple of months.

I am not from AUS. I just happened to pick up on the article as it was posted on google news.

Conza88
04-30-2008, 10:32 AM
So it got yanked? geeez.
It's like 2am here in Aus.. that person aint at work. :rolleyes:

edit: time for bed. try find and paste the text.. capture it.

Sarge
04-30-2008, 10:38 AM
I found it on another site.

http://www.alerttoday.com/?p=95

hillertexas
04-30-2008, 10:54 AM
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acptulsa
04-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Just in case they pull this site:

Never mind. Tod posted it all below.

tod evans
04-30-2008, 11:02 AM
So it got yanked? geeez.
It's like 2am here in Aus.. that person aint at work. :rolleyes:

edit: time for bed. try find and paste the text.. capture it.

plagreized from the link sarge provided;

The Next Attack
The following information central to ALERT concerns comes from David Meir-Levi an American-born Israeli currently living in Palo Alto who holds a BA from Johns Hopkins University, and an MA in Near Eastern Studies from Brandeis University. He taught Archaeology and Near Eastern History at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and at the University of Tel Aviv during the 60’s and 70’s. Upon returning to the USA, Mr. Meir-Levi has worked as a professional Jewish educator, most recently in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Since the outbreak of the second Intifada (9/28/00), Mr. Meir-Levi has lectured throughout northern California at synagogues, churches, universities, and service organizations on topics related to the history of the Arab-Israel conflict and the roots of terrorism in the Arab world. He has most recently taught a series of courses at San Jose State University, UC Davis, Cal-Poly Institute, and at the Monterey Institute for International Studies, on the history of the Israel-Arab conflict.

Mr. Meir-Levi is the director of the Israel Peace Initiative (IPI), a grassroots not-for-profit organization in the San Francisco Bay area working to educate the American public and its leaders in to the history of the Arab-Israel conflict and realistic options for resolution. He lectures and teaches in English, Hebrew, and Spanish.

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DML: I received this email from a contact abroad: 7.15.07. My comments are interlinearly inserted, IN CAPS, inside of the author’s.



A week ago, I was able to attend a dinner with Juval Aviv - the Israeli Agent who the movie ‘Munich’ was about… He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games. Tonight he shared information that EVERY American needs to know but our government has not shared. His bio is below, his book is ‘Staying Safe’ and I suggest you buy and read it.

First, I am going to share what he discussed in regard to the Bush Administration, 9/11 and Iraq and then I will share his predictions for the next attack on the U.S. (and he predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week - O’Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show and unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack occurred.)

Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. The Administration ridiculed him and refused to respond (Congress has since hired him as a security consultant - but still the Administration does not listen to him). Within a month, 9/11 occurred.

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS CORRECT. I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT HOW AVIV (I DID NOT KNOW HIS NAME THEN) AND HIS TEAM MET WITH CIA OFFICIALS IN A SAFE HOUSE IN PARIS IN AUGUST OF 2001. THE CIA OFFICIALS LEFT THE MEETING DOUBLED UP IN LAUGHTER. THE CIA HAS A LONG AND TRAGIC HISTORY OF NOT LISTENING TO THE ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE INPUT THAT YUVAL AND OTHERS IN MOSSAD HAVE GIVEN THEM. MANY AMERICANS HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THE CIA’S HUBRIS AND INTRANSIGENCE.

He didn’t agree with going into Iraq - said it didn’t make sense if we wanted terrorists responsible for 9/11 (and also he believes in Golda Meir’s approach which was to bring justice to the terrorists but do not take down civilians - killing civilians only creates more terrorists - but similar to Bush, Israel’s subsequent leaders were not as insightful as Golda Meir) - however, when we did decide to invade Iraq we should have learned from Israel’s past mistakes. He very articulately stated that Israel’s greatest mistake against their war on terror was to invade the West Bank and Gaza and stay there…He said they should have done the proven anti-terrorist strategy which was ‘Hit and Leave’ instead of ‘Hit and Stay.’

THIS IS CORRECT. I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT HOW ISRAELI AND OTHER (FRENCH AND UK) INTELLIGENCE URGED PRESIDENT BUSH NOT TO GO TO WAR, AND THEN, IF THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE, TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE FRENCH IN ALGERIA AND ISRAEL IN THE WEST BANK. MR. BUSH SCOFFED. CHENEY WAS SURE THAT HE COULD DO IT ON A THIN DIME. WE ARE IN A VIETNHAM/REDUX BECAUSE OF THEIR OBDURACY.

Now we are stuck in Iraq and it is worse than Vietnam - Iraq is the U.S.’s West Bank/Gaza. He doesn’t think we will ever be able to truly leave because even when we are able to pull our troops back we will still have to go back regularly which will keep us quagmired. We should have hit hard and left immediately - or actually, we shouldn’t have gone in at all…

MOSSAD INTEL SAYS THAT THOSE ISRAELI AGENTS WHO MET WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AFTER THE RISE OF WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE ‘INSURGENCY’ TOLD HIM - (I PARAPHRASE FROM MEMORY) ”GIVEN YOUR PRESENT INADEQUATE LEVEL OF TROOP COMMITMENT, AND GIVEN YOUR ERRONEOUS AND OVERWEANINGLY SELF-CENTERED AND EGOTISTIC BELIEF THAT THE IRAQIS WILL WELCOME YOU AS LIBERATORS, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GAIN VICTORY NOW, NOR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO RETREAT WITH HONOR, NOR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO STOP THE RISE OF NEW AND WORSE TERRORIST GROUPS. ALL YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL IS THE TIMING AND DEGREE OF YOUR COUNTRY’S HUMILIATION AT THE HANDS OF ILL-ARMED BUT DETERMINED TERRORISTS.”

Now for the scary stuff…. He predicts the next attack on the U.S. is coming within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as the people on the plane will not go down quietly.

THIS IS CORRECT. I HAVE WRITTEN PRES. BUSH ABOUT IT (HE HAS NOT ANSWERED). WE ARE RE-ACTIVE. SO INSTEAD OF WASTING THEIR TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NEUTRALIZE OUR AIRPORT SAFETY PROTOCOLS, THE TERRORISTS SIMPLY SHIFT TACTICS AND LOOK AT TRAINS, BUSSES, BOATS, SHOPPING MALLS, SCHOOLS, NYC’S TIMES SQUARE, NYC HARBOUR, ETC. AFTER THEY HIT ONE OF THOSE (GOD FORBID, BUT IT IS IN THE PLANS), WE WILL UPGRADE SECURITY THERE; AND THE TERRORISTS WILL THEN LOOK FOR NEW TARGETS ELSEWHERE.

Aviv believes our airport security is a joke- we are being reactionary versus looking at strategies that are effective.

1) our machines are outdated. They look for metal and the new explosives are made of plastic

2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire - we now have to take off our shoes, a group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives - now we can’t bring liquids on board. He is waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on their underwear and light up in a plane or in the terminal and then we will all have to travel naked!

3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates, he says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times and on the front end when people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink (and I have done that for people myself) and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. Israel checks bags before people can enter the airport.

HOMELAND SECURITY AND INS AND FBI AND CIA ALL SHARE THE SAME RETICENCE TO TAKE ADVICE FROM ISRAEL. I DON’T KNOW WHY. IT IS HOMOCIDALLY NEGLIGENT TO BE THAT WAY, BUT THEY ALL ARE.

Now, back to his predictions: He says the next attack will come in the next few months and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places that people congregate: Disneyland, Las Vegas, Big Cities (NY, SFO, Chicago, etc…) and there it will be shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, casinos, etc.. as well as rural America (Wyoming, Montana, etc…). The attack will be simultaneous detonations around the country (they like big impact) 5-8 cities including rural areas. They won’t need to use suicide bombers because at largely populated places like the MGM Grand in Vegas - they can simply valet park!

YES. HE IS RIGHT. I HAVE WRITTEN ON THIS TOO. 500 SUICIDE BOMBERS WITHIN C. 5000 TERRORISTS ENTERED OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, DISGUISED AS MEXICANS, VIA MEXICO’S BORDER WITH THE USA, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. THEY ARE SLEEPERS HIDDEN INSIDE THE VAST MUSLIM AMERICAN COMMUNITY, AND ARE MOSTLY INVISIBLE, UNTRACKABLE, UNIDENTIFIABLE. SOME ARE SUPPORTED AS ‘IMAMS’ OR ‘SPIRITUAL LEADERS’ IN ANY OF THE 1,200 MOSQUES AROUND THE COUNTRY (C. 70% OF THESE ARE FUNDED BY OIL-WEALTHY WAHHABI SAUDIS). WHEN THE SIGNAL COMES (VIA EMAILS AND WEB SITES), THESE 500 WILL HIJACK OIL TANKER TRUCKS AND DRIVE THEM IN TO SENSITIVE OR HIGHLY DENSELY POPULATED TARGETS AND BLOW THEM UP, 500 IN ONE DAY, ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, KILLING TENS OF THOUSANDS, CRIPPLING OUR CAPABILITIES TO RESPOND, AND GIVING THE TERRORISTS NEW FODDER FOR THEIR RECRUITMENT VIDEOS (SOME OF THE NON-SUICIDE 4500 WILL BE PERCHED ON ROOF-TOPS TO VIDEO THE SUCCESS OF THE ATTACKS).

He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that Bush will attack Iran and Syria before he leaves office (we are being prepared for that! and I have to wonder if we are not hearing about this impending attack so America will support attacking Iran and Syria?).

HERE I HAVE MY DOUBTS. I COULD BE WRONG. BUT I HOPE THAT PRESIDENT BUSH WILL NOT ATTACK IRAN UNLESS IRAN DOES SOMETHING TOO EGREGIOUS. MR. BUSH SHOULD NOT ATTACK SYRIA. HE DOES NOT NEED TO. OLMERT WILL DEPLOY IDF FORCES TO DO THAT FOR HIM.

In addition, since we don’t have enough troops Bush will likely use small, strategic nuclear weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read ‘US Nukes Islamic World’ and the world will be a different place to such an extent that global warming will be irrevelent.

PER ABOVE. I DOUBT IT. THERE ARE TOO MANY EFFECTIVE WAYS OF HITTING IRAN WITH NON-WMDS. MAKES NO SENSE TO USE WMDS, EVEN SMALL ONES. THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN 3 ‘WORK ACCIDENTS’ AT NATANTZ AND OTHER IRANIAN SITES. A FEW MORE, AND IRAN’S WMD PROGRAM IS SET BACK BY C. 5-10 YEARS….DURING WHICH TIME REGIME CHANGE IS QUITE PROBABLE.

BUT…IF THE USA DOES USE NUKES ANYWHERE, THEN WE CAN BE QUITE SURE THAT EL-QAEDA WILL SAIL ONE OF ITS HI-JACKED OIL TANKER SHIPS IN TO NYC HARBOUR AND DETONATE THE NUCLEAR BOMB INSIDE.

These are not conspiracy theories or crazy rantings. This is the man (and we have all heard/read that the Bush Administration was warned about 9/11 prior to it happening) who did the warning. He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff.

On a good note - he says we don’t have to worry about being nuked - he says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons - they like suicide as the frontline approach.

HERE TOO, I SUSPECT THAT THE REALITY IS A BIT DIFFERENT. HE IS RIGHT THAT THE ISLAMO-FASCIST TERRORISTS PREFER SUICIDE BOMBERS (THEY DON’T WANT THE STIGMA OF BEING THE FIRST TO USE NUKES, EVEN THOUGH SOME IMAMS HAVE ISSUED ORDERS SAYING THAT NUKING THE KUFAR IS OK WITH ALLAH). BUT, IF PRESIDENT BUSH NUKES IRAN, THEN THE GLOVES ARE OFF AND NYC IS NEXT.

He also says the next level of terrorists will not be coming from abroad, but will be homegrown - having attended our schools and universities - but will have traveled frequently back and forth to the Middle East. They will know and understand Americans but we won’t understand them

YES. THIS IS CORRECT. WE SEE THIS ARLEADY IN THE UK. LOCAL IMMIGRANT UK CITIZENS AND NATIVE-BORNS OF PARENTS OF PAKISTANI OR AFGHANI ETC ORIGIN, OR CONVERTS (MORE CATHOLIC THAN THE POPE, SO TO SPEAK) ARE THE PERPETRATORS OR WANNABBEE PERPETRATORS OF ANTI-UK TERROR ATTACKS.

CANADA’S SECRET SERVICE RECENTLY UNCOVERED AND PREVENTED ATTACKS (INCLUDING THE BEHEADING OF THE PM) WHICH WERE PLANNED AND PERPETRATED BY NATIVE BORN AND NEWLY CONVERTED MUSLIMS.

- we still only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks and we need that to change he said…What can we do? From an intelligence perspective he says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence but follow Israel, Ireland and England’s example of human intelligence both from an infiltration perspective as well as trust citizens to help.

COMPLETELY CORRECT. I HAVE WRITTEN ON THE FAILURE OF NIXON’S ‘EYE IN THE SKY’ PROGRAM AND THE DELITERIOUS RESULTS OF HIS, AND SUCCESSOR PRESIDENTS’, CUTBACKS OF ‘HUMINT’ (HUMAN INTELLIGENCE) ONCE ‘EYE IN THE SKY’ WAS IN PLACE. NOTHING REPLACES BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens but our government treats us like babies and thinks we can’t handle it and will panic.

He did a test for Congress recently putting an empty briefcase in 5 major spots in 5 US cities and not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago - someone tried to steal it! In Israel an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds with a citizen shouting ‘Unattended Bag’ and the area cleared slowly, calmly and immediately by the people themselves.

ALL CORRECT. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE 5-SUITCASE EXPERIMENT. BUT I AM NOT SURPRIZED AT THE RESULTS.

Unfortunately, we haven’t ‘hurt’ enough yet for us to be that concerned….

He also discussed how many children were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11 without parents to pick them up and the schools did not have a plan. Do you have a plan with your kids, schools and families if you cannot reach each other by phone? If you cannot return to your house? If you cannot get to your child’s school - do they know what to do? We should all have a plan.

SURE. HE IS RIGHT. BUT LIKE HE SAYS, THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT TO PANIC US….AND DOES NOT WANT TO ADMIT THE EXTENT OF ITS OWN INCOMPETENCE, SO WE ARE ALL IN DANGER.

He said that our government’s plan after the next attack is to immediately cut-off EVERYONE’s ability to use their telephone, cell phone, blackberry because they don’t want terrorists to be able to talk to one another - do you have a plan if you cannot communicate directly with those that you love?

I DID NOT KNOW THIS. THIS IS INSANE. CHENEY’S INANE OFF-THE-CUFF REMARK ON 9/11/01 A FEW MINUTES AFTER THE PLANES TOOK DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS (WELL…NO MORE CURB-SIDE CHECK-IN) WAS INANE. NOT INSANE.

IF WE HAVE NO CELL PHONES, TELEPHONES, BLACKBERRIES, WE WILL BE PARALIZED COMMUNICATION-WISE, AND THE TERRORISTS WILL VERY EFFECTIVELY USE MOTORIZED CORRIER SERVICES, RUNNERS AND CARRIER PIDGEONS BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY WORKED THESE CELL-PHONE LIMITATIONS IN TO THEIR PLANNING.

Again - I recommend his book, ‘Staying Safe’ and I also recommend we heighten each other’s attention now for the inevitable…. In fact, this week the Today Show began with a segment that Al Qaeda was resurfacing - the same kind of action on the Pakistani border occurred before 9/11…

EL QAEDA IS RE-ORGANIZED, RE-ARMED, RE-RECRUITED, AND RE-ACTIVATED. BUT OSAMA AND ZAWAHIRI ARE ON THE RUN AND MAY BE CAUGHT IN WAZIRISTAN ANY DAY…MAYBE, ALLAH WILLING. BUT, THEIR DEATHS DO NOT MATTER. THE GREAT JIHAD IS UNDER WAY AND THERE WILL BE MANY TO TAKE THEIR PLACE AND DARE THE GREAT BLACK SATAN TO COME AFTER THEM.

It is scary, but we do not have panic, we just need to be aware…

.FALSE. WE SHOULD HAVE PANICS YEARS AGO….IT IS NOW TOO LATE FOR PANIC. AWARENESS DOES NOT STOP THE ENEMY. AT BEST IT MERELY LIMITS THE DEGREE OF OUR OWN INJURY.

THE REAL BOTTOM LINE PROBLEM WITH AWARENESS AND NOT PANICKING IS THAT NO WAR WAS EVER WON BY DEFENSIVE MEASURES ONLY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE CAN PROTECT OURSELVES BY TRYING TO SEAL BORDERS AND HEIGHTEN SECURITY AT AIRPORTS ETC.

THE ONLY WAY TO WIN THE WAR IS TO GO ON THE OFFENSIVE. CHENEY REFUSED TO DO THAT IN IRAQ (THIN DIME, THEY’LL LOVE US WHEN WE TOPPLE SADDAM) AND NOW PRESIDENT BUSH IS HAMSTRUNG BY DEMOCRATS AND MEDIA WHO SEEK EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERMINE OR HAMSTRING OR EMASCULATE EVERY OFFENSIVE MEASURE THAT COULD TURN IRAQ AROUND. WHY DEMOCRATS ARE DOING THAT IS UNCLEAR.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN?

JUDGING FROM PAST WARS, WE WILL NEED TO BE HIT HARD ENOUGH FOR OUR GOVERNMENT (CONGRESS MOSTLY) TO INSIST ON A MAJOR MILITARY STRIKE ON THE KNOWN SOURCES: IRAN, ARABIA, PAKISTAN, SYRIA.

WHEN THE USS CONSTITUTION AND THE USS EISENHOWER START SENDING OUT BOMBING RUNS OVER TEHERAN, WE’LL KNOW THAT ARMAGEDON IS NEAR.

Unfortunately, the Bush Administration has not been helpful and we can not change things until 2008. However, remember that when you vote….

Juval Aviv holds an M.A. in Business from Tel Aviv University and is President and CEO of Interfor, Inc., an international corporate intelligence and investigations firm.

Juval Aviv is President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Based in New York with offices around the world, founded in 1979, Interfor provides foreign and domestic intelligence services to the legal, corporate and financial communities and conducts investigations around the world.

In addition, Mr. Aviv serves as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress and other policy makers on issues of terrorism, fraud and money laundering.

A leading authority on terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am 103-Lockerbie terrorist bombing. He was featured in the recent film, Munich, as the leader of the Israeli team that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the Israeli Olympic team. Interfor’s services encompass white-collar crime investigations, asset search and recovery, corporate due diligence, litigation support, fraud investigations, internal compliance investigations, security and vulnerability assessments. Since its inception, Interfors asset investigation services have recovered over $2 billion worldwide for its clients.

Before founding Interfor, Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/Intelligence Unit, and was later selected by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to participate in a number of intelligence and special operations in many countries in the late 1960s and 1970s. While working as a consultant with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the existing security measures in place and updated El Als security program, making El Al the safest airline in business today.

Most recently, Mr. Aviv wrote Staying Safe: The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business, (2004,HarperResource).

He has been a guest on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight, ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers worldwide

Sarge
04-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Yipes, Read the last paragraph.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7376233.stm

and this,

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/needtoknow/2008/04/alqaeda_readies_in_pakistan_wh.html

Sad if true.

It is just amazing when you google news Al Qaeda and see this hitting all over the news.

Spend it all over there and do nothing here. Oh yes, just ignore it.

Not sure if this is intended to escalate the ability to attack or not.

If the agent is right, they are already here, so starting a war over there isn't going to help here. Just my thoughts.

JTM
04-30-2008, 12:41 PM
yea i just got 404'd too.

JTM
04-30-2008, 12:43 PM
Yipes, Read the last paragraph.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7376233.stm

and this,

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/needtoknow/2008/04/alqaeda_readies_in_pakistan_wh.html

Sad if true.

It is just amazing when you google news Al Qaeda and see this hitting all over the news.

Spend it all over there and do nothing here. Oh yes, just ignore it.

Not sure if this is intended to escalate the ability to attack or not.

If the agent is right, they are already here, so starting a war over there isn't going to help here. Just my thoughts.

that GAO article is true.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08622.pdf

al qaeda has fully recovered in the FATA region in pakistan. after we gave pakistan around 6 billion to take them out.

acptulsa
04-30-2008, 12:47 PM
al qaeda has fully recovered in the FATA region in pakistan. after we gave pakistan around 6 billion to take them out.

Is that what it was for? Or for not taking them out? The whole thing reeks to high heaven.

If we can crack this nut and expose this game, we can use it to put Dr. Paul in the White House. Stay vigilant!

slacker921
04-30-2008, 12:52 PM
You all do realize that if there are attacks on US soil like he talks about then McCain will win in November? The general public won't blame Bush and the neo-cons for causing this and not protecting the US - they'll want more protection and will give up more freedoms in the process. Hope and pray it doesn't happen...

JTM
04-30-2008, 12:53 PM
Is that what it was for? Or for not taking them out? The whole thing reeks to high heaven.

If we can crack this nut and expose this game, we can use it to put Dr. Paul in the White House. Stay vigilant!

pakistan mobilized 100k troops in the FATA region (federally administered tribal regions). there were something like 1000 casualties on the paki side and they killed "100s" of terrorists. the GAO article says that AQ forces in the region are fully regenerated.

the FATA region is a very dangerous place. it's still mostly run by the tribes with the paki government claiming that it's theirs. wiki on the FATA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas

Sarge
04-30-2008, 01:23 PM
I happened to see this one. The Risk Managers are worried about what would happen.

http://riskatrims2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/session-human-incubators-and-other_30.html

Human Incubator's. Whoa!

JTM
04-30-2008, 01:24 PM
I happened to see this one. The Risk Managers are worried about what would happen.

http://riskatrims2008.blogspot.com/2008/04/session-human-incubators-and-other_30.html

Human Incubator's. Whoa!

i kind of got sick after reading that.

Sarge
04-30-2008, 02:46 PM
Same here.

It could spread contamination like wild fire.

Americans are less able to fight off infections due to all the antibiotics people have taken over the years. Just look at what MERSA is doing right now.

My sister-in-law just got over a bout and had a PIC in her arm for six weeks with heavy duty antibiotics twice daily. The problem is now she could be even less immune due to six weeks of that drug. Gyms are the worst for spreading MERSA, if one is not careful.

Mach
04-30-2008, 09:11 PM
This is the opposite of Ron Paul, he doesn't take articles and sell fear out of them as reality, quit selling fear.... why don't you guys go into your basements and huddle up or something...... just watch out for those monkeys......... (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6718420906413643126&q=The+Century+Of+The+Self+-+Part+1&ei=rzAZSLmFMYW05AKNnt3sBg&hl=en)

Close your eyes and take long deep breaths. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rPQCPwdwHQ)


:eek: :confused: :mad: (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4472671349450886466&q=terrorism+bullshit&ei=fjEZSOu0KZrC4ALEn6nvBg)

Perry
04-30-2008, 09:14 PM
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