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too young to vote RP '08
08-21-2007, 09:49 PM
I am too young too vote in 2008, i am only 16 now. But, I promote Ron Paul whenever i get a chance. I like to know as much as I can on him so it will make me a more effective promoter. Where does Ron Paul stand on govenment earmarking on bills? To me it is an outrage to do such a thing.

0zzy
08-21-2007, 11:16 PM
I am too young too vote in 2008, i am only 16 now. But, I promote Ron Paul whenever i get a chance. I like to know as much as I can on him so it will make me a more effective promoter. Where does Ron Paul stand on govenment earmarking on bills? To me it is an outrage to do such a thing.

Earmarking is just allocating the money to the people rather than to the bureaucratic departments. Either have your district say "We need this much money for this" or give the Department of Homeland Security 600million dollars with no questions asked. They usually end up losing or wasting the money.

However, he votes against his own earmarks. But he knows the government loves to spend money, so he allocates them back to the people.

noxagol
08-21-2007, 11:26 PM
Earmarks are just saying how money, that is going to be spent anyways no matter what, will be spent.

Earmarks are ok, the pork spending that causes them is not.

Matt
08-22-2007, 07:17 AM
This explains RP's position on earmarks. Basically they're just away of distributing funds that have already been allocated so the only way for abuse them would be for a rep. to request earmarks that benefit them personally or otherwise put them in conflict of interest eg. Ted Steven's many excesses.

Earmark Victory May Be a Hollow One

by Ron Paul

Last week's big battle on the House floor over earmarks in the annual appropriations bills was won by Republicans, who succeeded in getting the Democratic leadership to agree to clearly identify each earmark in the future. While this is certainly a victory for more transparency and openness in the spending process, and as such should be applauded, I am concerned that this may not necessarily be a victory for those of us who want a smaller federal government.

Though much attention is focused on the notorious abuses of earmarking, and there are plenty of examples, in fact even if all earmarks were eliminated we would not necessarily save a single penny in the federal budget. Because earmarks are funded from spending levels that have been determined before a single earmark is agreed to, with or without earmarks the spending levels remain the same. Eliminating earmarks designated by Members of Congress would simply transfer the funding decision process to federal bureaucrats rather then elected representatives. In an already flawed system, earmarks can at least allow residents of Congressional districts to have a greater role in allocating federal funds – their tax dollars – than if the money is allocated behind locked doors by bureaucrats. So we can be critical of the abuses in the current system but we shouldn't lose sight of how some reforms may not actually make the system much better.

The real problem, and one that was unfortunately not addressed in last week's earmark dispute, is the size of the federal government and the amount of money we are spending in these appropriations bills. Even cutting a few thousand or even a million dollars from a multi-hundred-billion dollar appropriation bill will not really shrink the size of government.

So there is a danger that small-government conservatives will look at this small victory for transparency and forget the much larger and more difficult battle of returning the United States government to spending levels more in line with its constitutional functions. Without taking a serious look at the actual total spending in these appropriations bills, we will miss the real threat to our economic security. Failed government agencies like FEMA will still get tens of billions of dollars to mismanage when the next disaster strikes. Corrupt foreign governments will still be lavishly funded with dollars taken from working Americans to prop up their regimes. The United Nations will still receive its generous annual tribute taken from the American taxpayer. Americans will still be forced to pay for elaborate military bases to protect borders overseas while our own borders remain porous and unguarded. These are the real issues we must address when we look at reforming our yearly spending extravaganza called the appropriations season.

So we need to focus on the longer-term and more difficult task of reducing the total size of the federal budget and the federal government and to return government to its constitutional functions. We should not confuse this welcome victory for transparency in the earmarking process with a victory in our long-term goal of this reduction in government taxing and spending.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul392.html