*Grassroots Tool* Robert Rules cheat sheet!

[torchbearer]

In an effort to make our delegates even more powerful, I am providing a Robert's Rules of Order cheat sheet.
Including a pdf download:

http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules.pdf

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/2447042326_3e12e89cb2_o.jpg

Here is a link that will explain how each motion is to be used/said: http://www.robertsrules.org/motions.htm


Instructions:

download adobe reader here(it's free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
*be sure to uncheck the google tool bar option before you download

after installing it download pdf from here(it's free): http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules.pdf


Open up pdf with the reader (you should be able to do this by double clicking on the pdf if the program got its associations right)

then once inside the program click on the printer button.


I wouldn't suggest printing the jpg... i put that up so you could see what you were downloading.

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And courtesy of catherder, here are some more tools, hosted from my congressional site:

Roberts_Rules.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules.pdf)
ROBERTS_Rules_10th_pobox.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/ROBERTS_Rules_10th_pobox.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc)

[TruthAtLast]

nice. cool cheatsheet.

[torchbearer]

Notice, to take a recess requires a majority vote.
Needs to be seconded.
And can be amended.

[mdh]

So if you didn't get much sleep the night before, and you're tired... make a motion to lay on the table, as this may provide a more relaxing position. Keep in mind that your motion must pass with a majority vote.

[ronpaulhawaii]

I see NV lit a fire last night :D

Cool sheet, thanks

[torchbearer]

I see NV lit a fire last night :D

Cool sheet, thanks

I want to be able to help in anyway I can...
If asked, I would go and help them on the ground.
Maybe even bring some of our top lieutenants from LA with me.

[Soccrmastr]

This is very very useful. Thanks a lot dude!

[FireofLiberty]

Very cool. I wish I had this yesterday for the district conventions. I would have printed a bunch up and passed them out to our people.

[torchbearer]

Very cool. I wish I had this yesterday for the district conventions. I would have printed a bunch up and passed them out to our people.

We still have many conventions coming up... we need to get this sheet to all our delegates in advance.
Sorry it took me awhile to track it down.
The chairman of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana had brought them to the state convention.
I sent an email to him requesting a pdf. He sent it this morning.
I took a screenshot to post the jpg for visual and hosted the pdf from my congressional website asap.

I wish we all had this about a year ago, but we have it now.. so lets get this out there!

[torchbearer]

Do we have a library of grassroots tools?
LIke canvassing aids, grassroots owns(open source-like) voter list. etc.
If we take everything we learned from the last 12 months and put it into a body of work that easy to use. We will have the advantage for years to come.

[withallmyheart]

Thanks for this info. This is great.

[torchbearer]

np

[freedom-maniac]

Cool. I just bought a paperback copy of Robert's Rules of Order yesturday. I'll be taking a class over the summer on state and local government that involves parlimentary procedure.

[Meatwasp]

What would we do without our intellegent members. Thanks torch

[robert4rp08]

Nice, thanks.

[freedom-maniac]

How exactly would I print this? I checked both links for the picture, and one is too small, and I'm not sure how to print the PDF (I'm not very tech-savy, please forgive me).

[torchbearer]

How exactly would I print this? I checked both links for the picture, and one is too small, and I'm not sure how to print the PDF (I'm not very tech-savy, please forgive me).

download adobe reader here(it's free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
*be sure to uncheck the google tool bar option before you download

after installing it download pdf from here(it's free): http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf


Open up pdf with the reader (you should be able to do this by double clicking on the pdf if the program got its associations right)

then once inside the program click on the printer button.


I wouldn't suggest printing the jpg... i put that up so you could see what you were downloading.

[torchbearer]

:)

[ForLibertyFight]

bump :D

[brooklyn]

Thanks torchbearer for the help and info.
If you would like to offer assistance please contact Brian at briank@ronpaul2008.com
Brian is one of the heads of our las vegas chapter here in Las Vegas.
Thanks for the offer and we'll keep fighting the good fight .

[torchbearer]

Thanks torchbearer for the help and info.
If you would like to offer assistance please contact Brian at briank@ronpaul2008.com
Brian is one of the heads of our las vegas chapter here in Las Vegas.
Thanks for the offer and we'll keep fighting the good fight .

I sent the following email to Brian:


Brian,

To catch you up to speed on how I got your contact info, I direct you to the conversation here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=134726
I have put up a cheat sheet for Roberts Rules for our future state and national delegates to use in assistance with their conventions. (I attached a copy for you)

I also wanted to extend an offer of help on the ground if needed in NV. We had a similar situation in Louisiana this caucus season and some of our experience from these battles could be useful in your fight in Nevada.
As I stated in the thread above: "I want to be able to help in anyway I can...
If asked, I would go and help them on the ground.
Maybe even bring some of our top lieutenants from LA with me."

Which spurred someone from your NV group to give me your email.

The offer stands. We are willing to do whatever it takes to assist you in your efforts.


Sincerely-

Brent Sanders
http://www.joinsanders.com

[pinkmandy]

Thank you so much for that! I was overwhelmed by those rules!

[torchbearer]

np

[brooklyn]

Torchbearer-
Should you decide to come to Las Vegas to assist the campaign, you and your lieutenants will have a place to stay.
PM me.

[torchbearer]

Torchbearer-
Should you decide to come to Las Vegas to assist the campaign, you and your lieutenants will have a place to stay.
PM me.

When the date is set, i'll let you know.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Do we have a library of grassroots tools?
LIke canvassing aids, grassroots owns(open source-like) voter list. etc.
If we take everything we learned from the last 12 months and put it into a body of work that easy to use. We will have the advantage for years to come.

We are building one - has not launched yet:

OperationCatHerder@gmail.com

-n

[torchbearer]

We are building one - has not launched yet:

OperationCatHerder@gmail.com

-n

I checked it out, the only thing i'd change, where it says Roberts Rules of Order. i'd add (Cheat Sheet) or (Cliff's Note) (Condensed) or something to show its not the full book. but an easy to use guide to party procedure.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I checked it out, the only thing i'd change, where it says Roberts Rules of Order. i'd add (Cheat Sheet) or (Cliff's Note) (Condensed) or something to show its not the full book. but an easy to use guide to party procedure.

Done - thanks for the feedback!

-n

[torchbearer]

;)

[Conza88]

This shit is FTW!
Great work!

GL with operation cat herder aswell! Need tools like this, with canvassing recommendations etc.

[torchbearer]

Spread the message!

[libertythor]

So if you didn't get much sleep the night before, and you're tired... make a motion to lay on the table, as this may provide a more relaxing position. Keep in mind that your motion must pass with a majority vote.

LOL

[Knightskye]

So if you didn't get much sleep the night before, and you're tired... make a motion to lay on the table, as this may provide a more relaxing position. Keep in mind that your motion must pass with a majority vote.

Hahahaha.

Do remember that your motion may be amended if the committee deems a pillow appropriate to the situation. :D

[torchbearer]

bump

[yongrel]

Much appreciated. I have a few copies of rulebooks lying around my house for reasons unknown, but this is handier.

[adam1mc]

In an effort to make our delegates even more powerful, I am providing a Robert's Rules of Order cheat sheet.
Including a pdf download:



Instructions:

download adobe reader here(it's free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
*be sure to uncheck the google tool bar option before you download

after installing it download pdf from here(it's free): http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf


Open up pdf with the reader (you should be able to do this by double clicking on the pdf if the program got its associations right)

then once inside the program click on the printer button.


I wouldn't suggest printing the jpg... i put that up so you could see what you were downloading.


Good job... This needs to be more detailed though. Maybe add a second page that people could print out on the back.

I would suggest a brief description of what the word and motions used in RR actually mean.

What we need to say to prevent what happened in NV to happen again.

What we need to say when the GOP starts touting McCain.

What we say when the GOP attempts to install unapproved delegates



You know.. things of that nature.

[Banana]

I probably would want to red circle the line "Appeal the decision of chair" to emphasize that it is the assembly's decision that is always binding, never the chair.

Maybe add the two assumptions of RRO (you can find it on the introduction or something like that, IIRC):

1) Assembly decides everything! (e.g. it's never the chair)
2) Silence is consent! (e.g. it's your job to cry foul when a dirty trick is pulled)

In case of Nevada's convention, when Beers declared a recess, someone could have had stood up and called for an appeal to chair's decision, even if he left. Also, I'm pretty sure (but will need to find the citation) that RRO states that any motion, including recess, made without the proper procedures is null and void. This should be on the cheat sheet as well so anyone can cite it when same trick is tried again.

[torchbearer]

Good job... This needs to be more detailed though. Maybe add a second page that people could print out on the back.

I would suggest a brief description of what the word and motions used in RR actually mean.

What we need to say to prevent what happened in NV to happen again.

What we need to say when the GOP starts touting McCain.

What we say when the GOP attempts to install unapproved delegates



You know.. things of that nature.

Well, we have a think tank of intelligent people here.

If people will help me organize the second page with definitions of each type of motion and when they are used, that would be a big help to me.
I can create the final pdf.

We can call it the RRO addendum.
Maybe even make it a learning tool.

I'm game, but i don't want to do this alone.

[torchbearer]

bump

[Banana]

I have RRO... I could try and see if I can make something out of this and maybe include citations?

(I'm not sure how this will work if there are different editions out there, though...)

What about the idea of including assumptions? Would that help or just confuse people?

[torchbearer]

I have RRO... I could try and see if I can make something out of this and maybe include citations?

(I'm not sure how this will work if there are different editions out there, though...)

What about the idea of including assumptions? Would that help or just confuse people?

THis chart is made of the 1990 revised addition.

[torchbearer]

In an effort to make our delegates even more powerful, I am providing a Robert's Rules of Order cheat sheet.
Including a pdf download:

http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/2447042326_3e12e89cb2_o.jpg


Instructions:

download adobe reader here(it's free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
*be sure to uncheck the google tool bar option before you download

after installing it download pdf from here(it's free): http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf


Open up pdf with the reader (you should be able to do this by double clicking on the pdf if the program got its associations right)

then once inside the program click on the printer button.


I wouldn't suggest printing the jpg... i put that up so you could see what you were downloading.

:cool:

[torchbearer]

And courtesy of catherder, here are some more tools, hosted from my congressional site:

http://www.joinsanders.com/Motions_Chart_Part2.gif
http://www.joinsanders.com/ROBERTS_Rules_10th_podox.pdf
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf

[torchbearer]

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[torchbearer]

bump

[Banana]

THis chart is made of the 1990 revised addition.

Right, my RRO is more recent edition (10th edition, in 2000). The concern was that if I referenced pages number, it may be only good for one edition, not for other editions. But from what I gather from reading this page (http://www.robertsrules.com/authority.html), it's responsibility of GOP to have the current edition. Of course, we should bring our own books but the citation should be for the current edition, so I'll do that.

[torchbearer]

bump

[torchbearer]

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[Phantom]

Nice one Brent

I just added it to my Become a Delegate (http://www.presidentronpaul.741.com/delegate.html#becomeadelegate) page, just above the copy of the Roberts Rules of Order, 10th Edition pdf file.

[torchbearer]

bump

[torchbearer]

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[kigol]

:cool:

[torchbearer]

come on guys, this sheet give us the advantage.
Think of it as the lever action when the enemy has the single shot.
This is our advanced weaponry. Courtesy of the Louisiana Militia. ;)

http://www.circlekb.com/merchant2/graphics/00000001/38-650.jpg

[torchbearer]

be prepared.

[torchbearer]

In an effort to make our delegates even more powerful, I am providing a Robert's Rules of Order cheat sheet.
Including a pdf download:

http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/2447042326_3e12e89cb2_o.jpg


Instructions:

download adobe reader here(it's free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
*be sure to uncheck the google tool bar option before you download

after installing it download pdf from here(it's free): http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf


Open up pdf with the reader (you should be able to do this by double clicking on the pdf if the program got its associations right)

then once inside the program click on the printer button.


I wouldn't suggest printing the jpg... i put that up so you could see what you were downloading.

************************************************** ************************************************** **

And courtesy of catherder, here are some more tools, hosted from my congressional site:

http://www.joinsanders.com/Motions_Chart_Part2.gif
http://www.joinsanders.com/ROBERTS_Rules_10th_podox.pdf
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf
http://www.joinsanders.com/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf

:cool:

[torchbearer]

can a cheat sheet get a sticky here?

when you sign up for the forums there should be a question.

Do you intend on becoming a delegate?
Are you currently a delegate?
If yes.. the redirect to cheat sheet.
This will be your weapon in the Thunder Doom arena of these conventions.

Help spread this info to our guys in the trenches!

[torchbearer]

bump

[torchbearer]

add link to how to use the motions to the original post.
please update your info,

also. does anyone know how to use acrobat pro? i want to add the new info to the backside of the cheat sheet, not a seperate page.

[torchbearer]

anyone?

[Nyte]

Brent, those links to your site aren't working for me.

[torchbearer]

Brent, those links to your site aren't working for me.

yeh, i'm switching over to a new server and i will have to re-upload all the data again.
its still on the original server, but i don't have the ip for it.

[Nyte]

yeh, i'm switching over to a new server and i will have to re-upload all the data again.
its still on the original server, but i don't have the ip for it.

ok, good deal. our convention is tomorrow here in Utah. I'm hoping to make a couple hundred copies of this for our team.

[torchbearer]

Ok, test out those links for me now.
It should work.
Can someone mirror these files?

[Libertarian Ideals]

Thanks for making this easily available.
It will come in handy at the Washington state conventions.

:)

[torchbearer]

Thanks for making this easily available.
It will come in handy at the Washington state conventions.

:)

es, but someone seriously needs to add some mirrors.
That server will be going down in 15 days.
Will someone please mirror these files?

[Maltheus]

es, but someone seriously needs to add some mirrors.
That server will be going down in 15 days.
Will someone please mirror these files?

Other than the file from this link:

http://bws3123.ra.serverlogistics.com/Roberts_Rules.pdf

I can't access any of the others (the joinsanders.com links). If you can make them available to me, I can mirror them on my Ron Paul site. I was building a Robert's Rules page for our meetup members anyway and I was glad to stumble across some new concise content.

[Maltheus]

Thanks torchbearer, I've mirrored those docs here:

Roberts_Rules.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules.pdf)
ROBERTS_Rules_10th_pobox.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/ROBERTS_Rules_10th_pobox.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Intro_To.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Simplified.pdf)
Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc (http://ronpaul.corehook.com/files/Roberts_Rules_of_Order_Examples_of_How_to_Use.doc)

Maltheus

[torchbearer]

ok, i updated the links in the OP.