View Full Version : Anti-Paul Pundits: Mark Levin, Boortz, Goldberg, et al.

04-22-2008, 12:44 PM
I was taking my kid to his guitar lesson yesterday and Mark Levin was on the Patriot channel. He was whining about there being no "true conservatives" and whatnot, and a 15-year-old kid called up to talk about Paul. The kid was very respectful, but Levin took the opportunity to mock he and Paul mercilessly.

"RuPaul? Can I write him in? Is that one word, RonPaul?" It went on and on. The the pop quiz then ensued. "He's in Congress? What state? What district is he in?" The kid wasn't sure about the district but he made a guess. "There is no 51st district." "What's his stance on the 17th Amendment?" Blahblahblah fishcakes.

The kid was sincere and enthusiastic, but the really hard part was it seemed he was unaware that that dick Levin was mocking him. The call finally ended and by that time, my blood pressure had skyrocketed. (If it weren't a kid, I doubt I would have been so pissed-off.) I went to call him, but his show was over.

I write this because it never ceases to amaze me how these so-called conservatives can justify driving new (and old) conservatives away from the GOP, considering people have been running screaming from the GOP in droves since '06.

Are these pro-war, pro-interventionist bed-wetters really so afraid of a bunch of backward fundamentalist rock-throwers in the ME, they support McCain's brand of neoconservative socialism, while they happily throw Paul and millions of "true conservatives," including their votes, under the bus because of his (and our) foreign policy views alone?

Why do they, and the GOP establishment, refuse to make an attempt to find common ground with Paul and RP Republicans? Do they fancy they are they flying so high that they can afford to systematically alienate so many voters with their disrespectful bullshit? Some big tent, huh?

Boortz made another snide remark today on his website: "Apparently Ron Paul still thinks he is in the presidential race and aired ads attacking John McCain (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0408/Ron_Paul_is_still_in_race_and_attacking_McCain.htm l) in Pennsylvania."

I am becoming increasingly fed-up with the GOP and its blind loyalists and pro-war pundits. Hearing about the anti-Paul shenanigans at district conventions is not helping. The neocons have not only ruined the GOP, they are ruining the country with their nation-building, borrow-and-spend, big-government ways, and by helping to usher the uber-socialist Dems into the WH come Nov., which the neocons are most likely are perfectly happy with (http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12358). From all I've read, Hillary and Barack are basically going to continue on with the feckless spreading of democracy (http://gscobe.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-doctrine.html) exactly where it's incompatible (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3325), but they'll be dropping money bombs instead. (That "feckless" link is to Gregory Scoblete's blog, who I've been a fan of since he wrote "It's OK if Ron Paul is Right (http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=051807D)" and "The GOP, Ron Paul & Non-Interventionism (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/goldwater_is_to_reagan_as_ron.html)." If you haven't read him, do.)

The GOP is so busy kowtowing to big-government theocrat socons and big-government bed-wetting defcons, they cannot be bothered to even attempt to reclaim small-government conservative votes. Republicrat tools. Some big tent, huh? Seems there's more room in the GOP for socialists rather than actual conservatives.

I also had a little email back-and-forth with Jonah Golberg a few weeks back about a piece he wrote, asking for conservatives and libertarians to go to counseling. I told from where I sat, it didn't seem the abused and long-suffering libertarian faction was much interested, nor was the GOP neocon establishment, since they've been deliberately purging the faction from the GOP for over 10 years. In three emails, he went from calling for counseling to save the coalition, to telling me the libertarian faction of the GOP is fine and if there are a few here and there who leave the GOP, it won't make any difference. I rhetorically asked, "Then why your calls for counseling?" I then told him I hoped his cognitive dissonance didn't lead the development any embarrassing tics, and then I quoted him to him:

12/31/06 - Perhaps sensing an opportunity here, professional libertarians are flexing their muscle. The Cato Institute put out a paper holding that some 15 percent of voters are libertarian and that, more important, they are the much-coveted “swing voters” who decide elections. And in a number of very close elections in November, many libertarians seemed almost giddy that they might have been responsible for the defeat of Republicans.

12/31/06 & 4/3/08 - Perhaps the real lesson here is that conservatives and libertarians need to recommit themselves to the fusionist project. In other words: Let’s seek counseling.

4/10/08 - Libertarianism is a philosophy of government and there are more libertarians in the GOP than there are in the entire libertarian party. The fact that a relatively few self-described libertarian activists and purists want to go their own way and play these silly games isn't really relevant to anything.

I think I pwned him pretty good myself, and that was the last I heard from him. :::curtsy:::

Anyways, I just had to get that out. For myself, as pissed as I am, I will not allow them to dissuade me from the objective. I am in stealth mode. As a precinct committeeman, I will work this summer and fall to get the GOP elected, and slowly but surely do what I can to purge the GOP of the neocon interventionists locally. Unlike the neocons who never consider long-term consequences, we must and we will take the long view, and because of that, we will prevail.

(As as aside, Patriot has had a commercial shilling the channel, featuring some of Paul's talking points from an interview. So that's something anyway... That, and Mike Church.)

04-22-2008, 12:55 PM
If you really want to get them, tell them that terrorists killed less than four thousand seven years ago, yet more than ten times that number die each year on American roads in traffic accidents, and wouldn't it be much more of cost/benefit success to send all American drivers to the Bob Bonderant (sp?) school to learn how to drive.

Fun watching them turn purple...

04-22-2008, 01:27 PM
True dat!

I think another thing to point out is their silly claim that Bush (and the GOP) is keeping us "safe." Puhleeze. Their fear mongering falls flat when you consider our borders remain sieves 7 years after 9/11. Seems BushCo. doesn't even believe the terrorist threat is real, because if they did, wouldn't our borders be tight as drums by now? Hispanics aren't the only ones with maps.

Considering Bush couldn't even do one of the few legitimate jobs as head of the federal government -- protecting this country from an attack -- which he absolutely had a chance to prevent, it's pretty pathetic that they keep on trying to ride this "national security" wave.

How about instead of spreading freedom in the ME, they try spreading some freedom here in America for a change?

04-22-2008, 01:45 PM
The kid was very respectful, but Levin took the opportunity to mock he and Paul mercilessly.


Levin is now the Beavis and Butthead of constitutional scholarship. It's funny because it sounds like a transvestite? Did Levin do the Butthead laugh? Levin humiliated himself on national radio by proving that he (Levin) is less mature than a 15-year-old.

Here is the 15-year-old: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=133929


04-22-2008, 02:21 PM
Thanks for the link to his post, hawks4ronpaul. Patriot123's a bright kid, and a good kid. I'm proud he's on our side. We have two more young RP Republicans right here in the Lucille household.

Levin humiliated himself on national radio by proving that he (Levin) is less mature than a 15-year-old.
Ayup. I swear, I wanted to crawl through the radio and put my boot on Levin's throat.

Derek Johnson
05-27-2008, 11:34 PM
Mark Levin?

The sick joke is many actually believe that Mark Levin is a conservative. Mark Levin is a neo-conservative Strauss Machiavellian Trotskyite. I had fun bombing his show though: