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CountryboyRonPaul
04-22-2008, 10:31 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24256527

NEW YORK - A U.S. Army mechanical engineer has been arrested on charges that he slipped classified documents about nuclear weapons to an employee of the Israeli Consulate, the Justice Department said Tuesday.

The arrest of Ben-ami Kadish was detailed Tuesday by the U.S. attorney in Manhattan and FBI officials.

A criminal complaint said the activities occurred from 1979 through 1985. Kadish worked at the U.S. Army's Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center in Dover, N.J.

The complaint said Kadish took home classified documents several times, and the Israeli government worker photographed them in Kadish's basement.

The documents included information about nuclear weapons, a modified version of an F-15 fighter jet and the U.S. Patriot missile air defense system.






Please don't label me an anti-semite for posting this. ;)

sratiug
04-22-2008, 11:28 AM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. authorities arrested an American engineer on Tuesday on suspicion of giving secrets on nuclear weapons, fighter jets and air defense missiles to Israel during the 1980s, the Justice Department said.

Ben-Ami Kadish acknowledged his spying in FBI interviews and said he acted out of a belief that he was helping Israel, court papers said. He was accused of reporting to the same Israeli government handler as Jonathan Jay Pollard, who is serving a life term on a 1985 charge of spying for Israel.

Kadish's arrest is a sign the Pollard scandal may have spread wider than was previously acknowledged. Kadish was arrested in New Jersey and was scheduled to be arraigned on Tuesday afternoon at U.S. District Court in Manhattan, authorities said.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Arye Mekel, asked about the arrest, said: "We know nothing about it. We heard it from the media."

Pollard pleaded guilty in 1986, and Israel acknowledged in 1998 that the former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst was one of its spies. Pollard has been granted Israeli citizenship.

Kadish is a Connecticut-born U.S. citizen who worked as a mechanical engineer at the U.S. Army's Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center at the Picatinny Arsenal in Dover, New Jersey.

His spying for Israel lasted roughly from 1979 to 1985, and his contact with the unidentified Israeli handler continued until March of this year, the federal complaint against him said.

The complaint said Kadish did not appear to receive any money in exchange for his suspected spying, just small gifts and restaurant meals.

Kadish, who had a security clearance, took 50-100 classified documents from the arsenal's library, working from a list provided by the handler identified in a federal complaint as "CC-1." The handler would then photograph the documents and Kadish returned them to the library, the complaint said.

It said one of the classified documents passed on by Kadish "contained information concerning nuclear weaponry." Another related to "a major weapons system ... a modified version of an F-15 fighter jet that the United States had sold to another foreign country." It did not identify the country.

A third document contained information regarding the U.S. Patriot missile air defense system.

The complaint said Kadish maintained contact with CC-1, met him in Israel in 2004, and telephone with him on March 20 of this year, after his first FBI interview. It said the handler told him to lie to U.S. authorities: "Don't say anything ... What happened 25 years ago? You don't remember anything," the handler was quoted as saying.

The complaint said the handler worked for the Israeli government as consul for science affairs at the Israeli Consulate General in New York, from 1980 to November 1985.

During the late 1970s the handler worked for what was known at the time as Israeli Aircraft Industries, an Israeli government contractor, the complaint said. It said the handler left the United States when Pollard was arrested and has not returned.

(Reporting by Randall Mikkelsen; editing by Patricia Wilson and Jackie Frank)

AmericaFyeah92
04-22-2008, 04:13 PM
hang the bastard. those who commit treason should be killed, period.

ChooseLiberty
04-22-2008, 05:44 PM
Treason.

Wonder if he had dual citizenship with Israel?

The whole nation-for-one-religion concept is getting tedious.

Anyone notice there's been a sea-change in this area lately? Like the neocons have lost ability to pull the strings?

Some upper echelon people in the CIA and FBI are pissed off.

Sir VotesALot
04-22-2008, 07:26 PM
Some upper echelon people in the CIA and FBI are pissed off.I agree and it's probably the only reason we haven't invaded Iran yet.

ChooseLiberty
04-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Remember as Bush the lesser was posturing on Iran and the CIA released the assessment that Iran had no nuclear weapons capability or intentions.

Nice little slap to the back of the lesser head.


I agree and it's probably the only reason we haven't invaded Iran yet.

Zolah
04-22-2008, 10:16 PM
I saw about this from Reuters earlier on news channel Sky News, but no one was talking about it, it was just casually scrolling across the screen for a couple hours without anyone talking about it, so I tried to find info about it on internet which took longer than expected, eventually found reuters and AP articles about it but nothing more than a couple paragraphs.

Found this from 2004 though http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9802E2D81E3EF93BA1575BC0A9629C8B 63

but managed to find this article about todays news http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=977076&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

Which lead to some interesting reading about Jonathon Pollard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Jay_Pollard

All quite interesting stuff, don't think much of it is meaningful though, Israel now has its own nukes and will be getting same fighter jets as NATO.

Bradley in DC
04-22-2008, 10:19 PM
Not the first, won't be the last:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Franklin_espionage_scandal

RSLudlum
04-22-2008, 10:24 PM
talk about stealing from the hand that feeds you!

enhanced_deficit
07-30-2015, 09:09 AM
Not the first, won't be the last:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Franklin_espionage_scandal

US Set to Release Israel Spy Pollard to Placate Netanyahu on Iran (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?478952-US-Set-to-Release-Israel-Spy-Pollard-to-Placate-Netanyahu-on-Iran&)

oyarde
07-30-2015, 09:14 AM
OK , just how do they know what some guy was doing in 1985 ?

Christopher A. Brown
07-30-2015, 11:42 AM
hang the bastard. those who commit treason should be killed, period.

What do you recommend be done with federal judges that conceal treason and mass murder used to conduct it?

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreassign.html

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreasign1.html

CPUd
07-30-2015, 12:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1LFHZUl.jpg

enhanced_deficit
07-30-2015, 12:32 PM
CPUd, do you post from Israel? If so, how is public opinion of Obama there now after news of Obama releasing Israeli spy Pollard?

paleocon1
07-30-2015, 02:15 PM
If found guilty he needs to hang until dead.

Christopher A. Brown
07-30-2015, 05:18 PM
If found guilty he needs to hang until dead.

Sounds a bit severe, but it has exactly the right spirit. Does that also go for state judges that have no problem with what the federal judges do?

Here's the specific law they are violating.

TITLE 18, PART I , CHAPTER 115, §2382 U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04
Section 2382. Misprision of treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

devil21
07-30-2015, 07:53 PM
CPUd, do you post from Israel? If so, how is public opinion of Obama there now after news of Obama releasing Israeli spy Pollard?

Who knows which vegetable in the big pot of internet shill soup CPUd is. Hasbara would be a good giyus....err guess, though.

Good bump on this thread. I thought Pollard's release was slipping between the cracks.