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scandinaviany3
04-15-2008, 09:23 AM
If the public believes mccain has won.

Then its time to give all remaining states the adds and pass to push the candidates and issues now and not feel like they have anything to hold them back.

The stronger paul and others are the larger the voice they will have to hold in check mccain's bad sides and push him to do what they want versus amnesty, etc...

SWATH
04-15-2008, 10:03 AM
Convince them not to throw away their votes on McCain and instead vote for Ron Paul to at least send a message to the Republican party that we want more conservative candidates.

pinkmandy
04-15-2008, 10:06 AM
If they can be convinced that McCain simply cannot win against the Obama machine (unelectable, right?) then we'd have a chance of convincing those on our side to vote (or not McCain's anyway) on priniciple. Hell, even if they'd vote for RP as a protest vote I'd be thrilled! They're already convinced RP can't win so voting for him shouldn't be so scary for them. Maybe we need new signs? ;)

scandinaviany3
04-15-2008, 11:16 AM
if he has won why waste the vote...its time now to vote your conscience and send a message on the issues you want to see the party and candidate push.

ThePieSwindler
04-15-2008, 11:32 AM
This is all well and good to sit around and say to ourselves, but unless you are somehow able to share this enlightenment with 10 million republicans who thought Ron Paul already dropped out and never really liked him at all in the first place, then this is an exercise in futility.

spacehabitats
04-15-2008, 11:47 AM
(This is a repost of "How to Win a Primary" which follows the same logic, and then some. I just wish it had caught on.)

We need a tipping point.
In chemistry there is a concept called the "energy of activation". Combustible materials can sit side by side for years without catching fire. They need a spark, a concentrated source of heat to push the molecules over that critical edge that will allow them to combine, SETTING OFF MORE HEAT!

That is what ignites a fire. And once ignited it is self-sustaining.
What could ignite our revolution? Well, a win in one of the upcoming primary states could be just such a spark.
Is it likely? No.
Is it possible? I think so.
Would it be worth it? Absolutely!
The potential benefits to our movement, our morale, and the ongoing cause of liberty would be tremendous!

With the dismal showings in primaries so far, how do I think this is possible? The MSM media is still against us and will continue its national blackout. Our numbers and morale have been decimated.

1) John McCain and his supporters believe he has the nomination “sewn up”. Whether he does or not is irrelevant. The belief is enough to eliminate any reason for his followers to make it to the polls. If you thought the turn out for the Republican primaries were anemic before, they will only get worse now.

2) There is no competition for the “anyone-but-McCain” votes. The fact that Huckabee received a substantial number of votes after he quit is more of a testament to how much John is disliked than it is to Huckabee's popularity. Almost all of the votes should have gone to Ron Paul. With the right campaign strategy they will.

3) There are some red states left that have a substantial number of Republicans that would love to have someone to vote for other than John McCain.

4) Some of these states, like Nebraska and Idaho, have relatively small populations that are concentrated in a small geographical area. This would make it far easier to reach a substantial percentage of voters with far less expenditure of manpower or money.

5) On a local level, the strangle hold of the CFR-controlled media is minimized. Trust me, a speech or rally by a presidential candidate in Omaha will make the evening news.

6) The only way a Republican primary vote will have any meaning now is if it sends a message to the Republican establishment that the rank and file members are UNHAPPY with the candidate that is being forced down there throat. The only way to send that message effectively is to vote for Ron Paul. We can communicate that if we are given the right tools.

So what’s the catch? We need to change our strategy. And by “we”, I mean Ron Paul.
Since the beginning of this campaign he has been far too detached. He spent fewer days in Iowa than any other candidate and it cost him dearly (maybe even the nomination if you consider that he was within 3% of beating both McCain and Thompson). Regardless of his rationale for that decision, he needs to understand the importance of changing his ways, at least temporarily. He has never seemed to appreciate the importance of retail politics to this campaign. That means public appearances, speeches, and rallies by HIM, not a surrogate or a band of supporters. THAT will get him in the news and nothing less. But what I’m talking about is little more than the time an author would spend on a book tour.

And that brings us back to the tipping point. Combustion occurs not from the amount of heat, but the concentration of heat. If the campaign can convince just 50,000 voters between now and May to vote for Ron Paul he could WIN the primary in Nebraska. Spread that same number over five states and you might not even be able to detect the percentage change. Even put them all in Pennsylvania and it probably wouldn’t make the front page.

But I need your help. Dr. Paul is not going to do this just for fun. He will respond to us IF WE ASK HIM TO DO THIS. Otherwise it will be business as usual and we will have lost a golden opportunity to gain invaluable credibility for our entire movement.

Write him. Email him. Beg him to do this for us and for America.
Cut and paste the following message and send it to:

http://www.ronpaul2008.co... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form)

Dear Dr. Paul,
As a loyal supporter and lover of liberty I would like to urge you to consider investing your precious time in an all out effort to win in either Nebraska or Idaho.
I believe that the chances of a substantial showing (or even a win) in a small conservative state’s primary at this time are significant and the potential benefits to our movement would be tremendous; but this can only be accomplished if you commit yourself to frequent personal campaign visits. I know that you have told us that the campaign is winding down, and I also know that this would require a great sacrifice of time and energy on your part. I would not ask this if I did not believe that it would be a great help to our ongoing struggle for liberty. Thank you for everything that you have done and will continue to do for this, our cause.