Money Bomb...?

[Patriot123]

Imagine. Just one last money bomb to show the media and such that we're not going to 'be quite and shut up.' I have the resources to put the website together... Would anyone actually... Still even consider participating in one? Just curious. It wouldn't even have to be that big at all. Just big enough to make a point.

EDIT: Website: http://dday2008.com
Date: D-Day (June 6th, 2008)

[FreeTraveler]

I would personally rather see a moneybomb aimed at Dr. Paul's PAC or even better, the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Want to scare the neocons sh**less? Pump a bunch of money into the Republican Liberty Caucus overnight. As long as it's about Dr. Paul, they'll figure they can outlast him.

[soapmistress]

I'm in. Either one. Let's do it.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

The RLC isn't perfect by any means. I won't be donating to it unless we obtain control of it. They have interventionists in their ranks. I'm not really convinced that anyone elected and part of it is worth supporting besides Ron Paul. In fact, disgusting pedophile Mark Foley was even a member before he resigned.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i think we need to drop 10million into the RonPaul2008 Campaign's coffers. Why? Because the media won't be able to ignore it, and it will wake some up to the fact that Ron Paul is still on the ballot meaning McCain hasn't won anything yet.

This should happen within the next couple of months.

Also instead of campaigning against McCain, why not start comparing Hillary and Obama to Paul in the mainstream as if we know he'll win the nomination?

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

i think we need to drop 10million into the RonPaul2008 Campaign's coffers. Why? Because the media won't be able to ignore it, and it will wake some up to the fact that Ron Paul is still on the ballot meaning McCain hasn't won anything yet.

This should happen within the next couple of months.

Also instead of campaigning against McCain, why not start comparing Hillary and Obama to Paul in the mainstream as if we know he'll win the nomination?

Aiming too high, but I guess even a $1 million dollar moneybomb might gain a blurb or two at this point--especially during the politically slow months of spring and summer. The campaign really needs to start spending the money they've been sitting on now if they know we are going to give them more, however.

Incidentally, we should also try to hold a mini-bomb to get Bob Barr $100,000 or something in the next month. It will at least help him lock up the Libertarian nomination so he can be a backup candidate.

[hillertexas]

I actually really like this idea. It would definitely counteract the "he dropped out" mentality IMO.

[Patriot123]

Well I can certainly put together a nice website for it. However I'll need help with the domain. A cheap one, of course. Can I get a few promises that people will actually help me out with this if I do go ahead and put this together? Maybe if anyone has any resources or whatnot, PM me? I'll need help advertising this, of course. And a date has to be set.

For the date... Maybe some historic date in time between two groups where even though the underdog side hadn't enough support or whatnot gave it their all. Something like that... Yah? Just something sweet and simple like that.

[hillertexas]

Well I can certainly put together a nice website for it. However I'll need help with the domain. A cheap one, of course. Can I get a few promises that people will actually help me out with this if I do go ahead and put this together? Maybe if anyone has any resources or whatnot, PM me? I'll need help advertising this, of course. And a date has to be set.

We need an awesome theme, slogan, domain, etc.
Maybe a few days of brainstorming are in order.
We will have months to promote so maybe we should figure out our theme first so the domain matches.

My $.02

[tajitj]

THIS IS AN EASY ONE. APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB. APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK BOMB.APRIL 30TH BOOK

http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manifesto-Ron-Paul/dp/0446537519/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208046005&sr=8-1

You can read an excerpt from the book!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0446537519/ref=sib_dp_pop_ex?ie=UTF8&p=S00G#reader-link

I thought this was already discussed around here. Having a best selling book brings along with it guaranteed media coverage. Buy as many copies as you can financially afford and give them as presents or donate them to your local library.

[Patriot123]

The LP cannot win though... There isn't a chance in hell. I'd be willing to bet my soul on that one. I mean, it would be absolutely wonderful, great, amazing if they won the nomination. But let's face it. We've all ready tried the impossible with the good doctor. Do we really need to repeat mistakes with LP? We should take a stand, here, now. Not simply 'move on' to another candidate.

[Patriot123]

Oh, and also... Here's what I'm picturing for the banner of the website. First and foremost, cross out the 'money bomb' scheme. Make it a 'money nuke.' We'll get a nice, large banner with a Photoshoped image of a nuke heading for FOX, CNN, MSNBC and ABC headquarters with the anchors in the foreground, with, of course, a the border being money. It'll be perfect.

[TER]

Definitely one more money bomb, some time before the March. A "money bomb to end the war", or "Bring the troops home money bomb" or something. Think, guys, think!

[szczebrzeszyn]

i think we need to drop 10million into the RonPaul2008 Campaign's coffers. Why? Because the media won't be able to ignore it

Tell me you're joking...

[Patriot123]

Hows' June 16th? In commemoration of the battle of Bunker Hill. It's perfect... sort of. Sadly it's a Monday.

[Patriot123]

Bump.

Anyone? June 16th in commemoration of Bunker Hill? Sorry, I'd just really like to begin work on the website as fast as possible so that planning for the actual event and debate can take place.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

The 14th Amendment, which guarantees the rights of citizens and other persons, was proposed on June 13, 1866.

[Patriot123]

Hmmm... But it doesn't really show the sort of courage and 'fight for what's right' that we should be looking for... The Battle of Bunker hill was an event in which colonists got wind that the British were going to take over whatnot, and took a stance. They lost. But the fact that they had the courage to stand up, even when outnumbered by double the troops really relates to this movement.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i think we should keep looking

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

the infamous "Mission Accomplished" sign behind bush on the aircraft carrier was May 1st

[Patriot123]

There aint' much out there... I mean, Bunker Hill was the first battle of the American Revolution, so...

What else is there? We need an event which showed bravery when the chance of success were nearly at zero. Bunker Hill is just that... I don't really know what else there is. Perhaps the Battle of Monmouth? June 28th.

[Patriot123]

the infamous "Mission Accomplished" sign behind bush on the aircraft carrier was May 1st

But that would be in commemoration of the wrong thing... I mean, do we really want to celebrate the day we destroyed a country? :/

[TER]

June 6th, D-day, in honor of the courageous Americans soldiers who willingly gave their lives to fight tyranny.

[Patriot123]

June 6th, D-day, in honor of the courageous Americans soldiers who willingly gave their lives to fight tyranny.

That's PERFECT. Bless you.

June 6th... D-Day... Perfect. So this is the date, then? Yah?

[angelatc]

As I said in another thread...


Personally, I am torn about this guys. I am working for a Ron Paul politician who just announced in the Illinois 10th District. This seat is one that the parties typically spend millions of dollars to win. Because there is already a faux Republican in the seat, he has to run as an independent.

Independents don't have access to the donor lists and such that candidates in the two major parties do, so fundraising is a major obstacle.

In short, we need the money far more than Ron Paul does.

On the other hand, it seriously saddens me to see my little Firefox donation gadget telling me $0 for Ron Paul today.

It breaks my heart to say it, but I honestly think that a money bomb for the lower tier candidates would be much more appreciated by, and valuable to, the lower tier candidates.

Either way - I am in.
Edit/Delete Message

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

D-Day....everyone knows D-Day

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

all the stops should be pulled out on this one. I know it was criticized before, but I really believe we can pull in over 6 million. This can be toted as the final Ron Paul Money Bomb, get in on history, type thing, or something. I don't know. It just feels like this is THE opportunity to break out.

[Patriot123]

Perfect. D-Day it is. June 6th. Now...

I'll put together the website, and should have at least most of it done within a few hours. I'll have the entire thing absolutely done by tomorrow morning. I'll stay up late if I must to finish this :D However... I'm going to be needing help with the domain. I'm a minor, so I have no way to actually purchase it... If someone could actually buy it, though, that would be great. We need a catchy name, though. Perhaps june6th2008.com would be a nice domain name to get. It's gotta' be easy to remember, though.

Also... I need help advertising it. I'm excellent with graphics, so I can make up a few signatures and banners. But I need help getting the word out. Anyone have any connections? Can we possibly get an article on the DailyPaul?

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

we need to get the MODs attention

[voytechs]

I'm in. Either one. Let's do it.

+1

[voytechs]

Whats the domain name we are choosing for this? I can get it if its available and pointed to your server.

[Patriot123]

Make it be: June6th2008.com

PM me... It's going to take me a while to find out the information as to the domain IP and such...

[Patriot123]

All right. The URL is as follows:
http://june6th2008.freeweb7.com/
The nameserver or whatnot is as follows:

Nameservers: ns1.freeweb7.com, ns2.freeweb7.com

Not sure which one it is... As for the IP, not entirely sure... If you mirror it, though, it'll probably be sufficient.

[voytechs]

Its available. Do we have a consensus on this name before I order it?

June6th2008.com

[Patriot123]

Not quite, however I'm sure June6th2008.com is perfectly fine... Doubt there would be much debate over it. Everyone has all ready agreed on the date, so there really isn't any other logical domain choice.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

remember this is not set in stone. If a better title comes around we can use it. However, I think a date gets people interested like "What happens then" so they want to go see.

D-Day2008.com

may be ok

[voytechs]

remember this is not set in stone. If a better title comes around we can use it. However, I think a date gets people interested like "What happens then" so they want to go see.

D-Day2008.com

may be ok

Thats available too.

[Patriot123]

But think about it... If we set the domain as the date, people would not only remember the date of the money bomb easily but the domain as well. It's much easier to remember.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

june6th2008.com

D-Day2008.com

DDay2008.com

D-Day08.com

DDay08.com

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

it they are all available we could have a chip-in to snag them.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

right, but they wouldn't know the cause.

i.e. TeaParty07.com

[Patriot123]

Meh... Well they would surely know it when they hear the name, "june6th2008.com," but, meh... If we change it, I'll have to change the account I all ready registered with the provider and such. Want the email, name of the website and such to match the domain, yah?

[tajitj]

Are there any primaries after June 6th. So shouldn't donate to his PAC. No reason to fund the campaign at that late date.

[Patriot123]

Well it would sort of be like, 'taking a stand,' if you know what I mean. To show the general public that we're not going to stay quite, and that we're going to sort of be a 'pain in their ass,' if you will, for quite some time.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

why not? Ron Paul is still speaking after June 6th. He's got one on the schedule for the 20th.

[Patriot123]

All right... So we have to make a decision. June6th2008.com or D-Day2008.com? Or possibly something else?

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

Meh... Well they would surely know it when they hear the name, "june6th2008.com," but, meh... If we change it, I'll have to change the account I all ready registered with the provider and such. Want the email, name of the website and such to match the domain, yah?

weeelll that's why i suggested not being set in stone about titles and what not. The date is great. I feel we should follow what works though.

RonPaul2008.com
BobBarr2008.com
TeaParty07.com

DDay2008.com (or something like that)

makes sense to me.

[TER]

He is still campaigning and said he would continue as long as people contribute. It is up to us to fund this revolution. The message is greater than the 2008 election.

[TER]

DDay2008.com <- me like!

[Patriot123]

DDay2008.com sounds good to me.

[hillertexas]

DDay2008.com sounds good to me.

I vote for this one.

I think the D-Day theme is awesome by the way.

It will be a Money Bomb of Mass Destruction.

[hillertexas]

we sooooooo need a project like this to reunite the grassroots!

[voytechs]

We need to pick one.

I personally like the d-day2008.com. I don't think it really matters about people remembering the website address. Its not like anyone types it in by hand inorder to donate. The word needs to spread around and people click on email, a website etc to get to it. So something meaningful is better in my opinion.

[hillertexas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day

D-Day is a term often used in military parlance to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. "D-Day" often represents a variable, designating the day upon which some significant event will occur or has occurred; see Military designation of days and hours for similar terms. The initial D in D-Day has had various meanings in the past, while more recently it has obtained the connotation of "Day" itself, thereby creating the phrase "Day-Day", or "Day of Days".[1]

By far, the best known D-Day is June 6, 1944 — the day on which the Invasion of Normandy began — commencing the Western Allied effort to liberate mainland Europe from Nazi occupation during World War II. However, many other invasions and operations had a designated D-Day, both before and after that operation.

The terms D-Day and H-Hour are used for the day and hour on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. They designate the day and hour of the operation when the day and hour have not yet been determined, or where secrecy is essential. There is but one D-Day and one H-Hour for all units participating in a given operation.
http://www.wk-2.de/pictures/d_day_04_gross.jpg

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

DDay2008.com is better than D-Day2008.com

the hyphen can throw people.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

wow, nice image

[Patriot123]

That ones going on the website, by the way :D Should have the website at least functional in a few hours time.

[voytechs]

All right. The URL is as follows:
http://june6th2008.freeweb7.com/
The nameserver or whatnot is as follows:

Nameservers: ns1.freeweb7.com, ns2.freeweb7.com

Not sure which one it is... As for the IP, not entirely sure... If you mirror it, though, it'll probably be sufficient.

I need an IP address of the server which is going to be hosting the website. If you are going to use freeweb then I would probably need to transfer the domain name to those nameservers.

[constituent]

¡cinco de mayo!


-why the hell not?

oh, y'all decided already? n/m.

[MikeSmith]

If we mini-bombed the High Tide Ad http://alcpac.chipin.com/the-high-tide-airtime2 with maybe $25k in the next couple of weeks for the remaining primaries, we'd see the biggest effect.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

¡cinco de mayo!


-why the hell not?

too soon. we gotta have all our eggs in one basket in this case.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

if the campaign says "no, we don't need all that money" then we'll find something else to donate to. But this just seems right to me. When the media was pay us no attention we made them by raising 4 million and then 6 million. I still think we can do more than that.

[Patriot123]

I'm not entirely sure of the IP, to be honest... The host I use does not seem to have it listed. Just mirror it. It's not like we're going to have any other pages. Just the index.

[Patriot123]

The website is finally taking form... Anyone want a sneak peak?

http://june6th2008.freeweb7.com/

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i like the BG color. We need just one image though. Or maybe one image that has a mesh of other images.

[hillertexas]

The website is finally taking form... Anyone want a sneak peak?

http://june6th2008.freeweb7.com/

looks good.

FYI: We didn't fight for "our" freedom on D-Day. "The cause of freedom" or "others' freedom" would work, but not "our".

[Patriot123]

Well 'our' is used collectively, meaning Americans freedom.

As for the BG color, it fades out into black further down the page. I'm thinking from there, a big title of, "Mass Donation Day: June 6th 2008." Center that. Under it, "This one's for history." Then just a basic explanation of D-Day, and how it relates to the RP movement. Then, of course, everything else.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

Well 'our' is used collectively, meaning Americans freedom.

As for the BG color, it fades out into black further down the page. I'm thinking from there, a big title of, "Mass Donation Day: June 6th 2008." Center that. Under it, "This one's for history." Then just a basic explanation of D-Day, and how it relates to the RP movement. Then, of course, everything else.

yeah, he meant that too. "our" should = "the cause of"

[constituent]

Well 'our' is used collectively, meaning Americans freedom.



huh?

[hillertexas]

Well 'our' is used collectively, meaning Americans freedom.

What I mean is that, on D-Day, we were fighting for our allies freedom (England, France, Poland)...not our own freedom.

[flames2dust77]

ummmm, wrong use of a word. It's "vain" not "vein" can you please change that? you want ppl to take that site seriously, yes?

[Patriot123]

Fixed. Now reads, "the cause of freedom."

[Cowlesy]

I love seeing this kind of enthusiasm for trying to kickstart the grassroots -- awesome! Whatever you guys decide you know I'll push it to Josh/Bryan to get a banner up. On a personal note I am indifferent on where bomb proceeds go, as I can't donate to Dr. Paul any further.

Whatever you guys decide, I am for!!

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

hey Cowlesy! sweet!

can't donate any further???

[Patriot123]

ummmm, wrong use of a word. It's "vain" not "vein" can you please change that? you want ppl to take that site seriously, yes?

Sorry about that... Long day. Fixed. Or at least will be in a second...

[NBTxn4RP]

Also, I find the stripes in the background a little distracting...otherwise, can't wait to see the rest!

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

all good suggestions

[szczebrzeszyn]

This white font looks like some comic book one... And the top image is over 650kb? Fun for dialup users (like me) :). Save it as JPEG image (and compress it). I won't comment on the html source... ouch :)

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

yeah, you shouldn't use an image for text when regular text will work fine.

[Patriot123]

Fixed. Got it down to roughly 420kb... Don't really want to try to get it down any further as it'll make the image look, well... Terrible.

Now I need some sort of bulk email service for this... And something to count the number of pledges. Anyone know of any websites like this?

[Patriot123]

yeah, you shouldn't use an image for text when regular text will work fine.

Regular text will look all, well... Terrible, really. Unless I do a table in the background of the same bg. The image is so small in size it barely even matters, though... :/

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i disagree. The font you have now is a bit difficult to read. Most websites will have a regular style font that is easy to read.

just curious, how many websites have you actually designed?

[Patriot123]

Quite a few. A dozen, I guess. Last one was about a month ago, though. It'll turn out nicely, though. Don't worry.

What I need now is some sort of script like most moneybombs have that count pledges, as well as a bulk email sender. Do you know what most moneybombs use for this? (As in websites)

[Patriot123]

All right. Fixed the bottom part. Now it's text via a table. Look better?

[Patriot123]

All right. I just need a bulk email sender, and I'll just need to put on the finishing touches and I'll essentially be done. You know how a lot of moneybombs have that, 'feedburner' subscription thing? I need something like that. Something that will let you send out emails in bulk via subscriptions of the website... Something like that. I just can't get feedburner to work.

[TruthAtLast]

I would personally rather see a moneybomb aimed at Dr. Paul's PAC or even better, the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Want to scare the neocons sh**less? Pump a bunch of money into the Republican Liberty Caucus overnight. As long as it's about Dr. Paul, they'll figure they can outlast him.

I'm not going to give a dime to Ron Paul's LPAC until they do something with the site to prove that they are serious about using it as the vehicle to further the Movement. I've offered my services, servers, and bandwidth for free, all contact information is broken or goes unanswered.


As far as a money bomb to "show them we aren't going away" there are hundreds of other things we can do to show them we aren't going away than doing yet another money bomb.

I'd rather keep donating to Liberty candidates and grassroots projects. I'd rather keep gaining delegates and taking their positions of power. THAT shows a lot more than a few thousand people just charging $50 on a credit card. THAT is much more dangerous because it shows that we aren't just armchair activists. It shows that we will ACTIVELY fight them to regain our Freedom.

[Patriot123]

All right. It's really essentially done, now. All I need is verification that the domain is dday2008.com, and I'll slap it on the advertising banner.

[Midnight77]

Sure. Let's all throw our money away in these trying times. After all, our money was spent so well while the Campaign was in business, that Ron still hasn't spent the $5 million he has left in the bank from our Money Bombs.

What honestly is the point of doing any more money bombs? It was to get Media Attention and to keep the Campaign up and running. Now, the Campaign has virtually closed up shop and there would likely be no media coverage anymore. So again, what really is the purpose of donating anymore, unless you just like throwing your money away?

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i think the site still needs work.

oh, and for all you quiters "i'm not throwing my money away" people.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQjCSG-zDyg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DsK4i6BroTU&feature=user

[Patriot123]

Well I'll be adding videos and such, but... What exactly don't you like about it?

And also... Do you know for a fact what the domain is?

[NBTxn4RP]

Please fix...inside text box the first reference to June 6...should not be 2008...

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

just doesn't have a professional look to it. We need a graphics artist to really spend some time on the whole D-Day theme.

[NBTxn4RP]

On June 6th, 2008, American and European forces invaded Normandy. This was the ultimate battle which led to the defeat of Nazi Germany. American as well as European forces showed great courage and bravery throughout the battle, making the impossible possible.

[mannycp]

I think one more moneybomb would be great, thats exactly what we need. We need to feel like we did on NOv 5th and Dec 16 just one more time and the message it will send out will be great.!!!!

[Patriot123]

I've been working with graphics for three years... You really don't like that first image? Because I can re-do it... But in all honesty, it's a website, yes? Works, functions, etcetera. That's all we need.

And fixed.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

I've been working with graphics for three years... You really don't like that first image? Because I can re-do it... But in all honesty, it's a website, yes? Works, functions, etcetera. That's all we need.

And fixed.

uummmm.....sorry, no. that is not all we need.

[Patriot123]

Well what more do you want? I can certainly add it in if you tell me...

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

can you post those images that you used so i can save them?

[Patriot123]

...All of the images used on the website? There's one... Two. Three counting the gradient.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i mean the individual images that were meshed into the first image on the site

just the dday ones

[Patriot123]

Just Google, "D-Day" and you'll get all of them... And for the others just Google Ron Paul and they're on the first page.

[Patriot123]

All right... I need to know whether the domain is active or not, and if it is in fact dday2008.com. If it is, the website is good to go. Or at least will be by morning.

[texasbelle]

Money Bomb? Did I hear mention of a money bomb?? I am IN !!!!!

[voytechs]

Sure. Let's all throw our money away in these trying times. After all, our money was spent so well while the Campaign was in business, that Ron still hasn't spent the $5 million he has left in the bank from our Money Bombs.

What honestly is the point of doing any more money bombs? It was to get Media Attention and to keep the Campaign up and running. Now, the Campaign has virtually closed up shop and there would likely be no media coverage anymore. So again, what really is the purpose of donating anymore, unless you just like throwing your money away?

Lets see what could a successful money bomb accomplish this late in the game:

1) McInsane is broke - he received the popular vote but can't raise any money and is not so popular. This will be the biggest "in-your-face" ever.

2) Fund the revolution - Dr. Paul is our leader, he needs our support, financial and other. This will be a strong message of support.

3) Revitalize the activists - let people know we're alive and stronger than ever. We certainly grew in numbers since the last major money bomb.

[voytechs]

Grabbed the domain:

http://www.dday2008.com

I also copied the contents of your freeweb onto my server until we figure out your IP address stuff. I can host the website for you if you'd like, certainly be better than the free stuff since I have total control over my own server. Its a beefy machine sitting in a co-location facility.

[szczebrzeszyn]

I can host the website for you if you'd like, certainly be better than the free stuff since I have total control over my own server.

+1 for running Linux :D

[TER]

Bump. Get 'er done!

[amonasro]

Someone needs to get Trevor out of the Matrix.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

i emailed him yesterday. someone else needs to. I also messaged Aravoth about making a video, and AdamT for creative input.

so far the only response was Cowlesy. So everyone get on bringing in people who are creative!

[Patriot123]

I have no idea how or why, but apparently someone deleted it, or it was deleted, somehow... I'm going to re-create an account and install the source again. I'll get the IP for you momentarily... Or at least try...

[Patriot123]

All right. Everythings up, or at least will be once the IP's and the URL are added to the domain. Now about these people, ForLiberty-RonPaul... PM me their emails and I'll send them one, if you like.

[tajitj]

Lets see what could a successful money bomb accomplish this late in the game:

1) McInsane is broke - he received the popular vote but can't raise any money and is not so popular. This will be the biggest "in-your-face" ever.

2) Fund the revolution - Dr. Paul is our leader, he needs our support, financial and other. This will be a strong message of support.

3) Revitalize the activists - let people know we're alive and stronger than ever. We certainly grew in numbers since the last major money bomb.

All true but, only way it will work is if HQ or Trevor sends out mass email. Also needs to be about the future, money going to his PAC. That will make Dr. Paul a popular man on capitol hill.

[Patriot123]

But donating to his PAC isn't going to have the same message as supporters donating millions to RP's campaign even though it's over... The media report a PAC moneybomb whatsoever. With this at least we have a chance of them reporting it. It'll send politicians running like hell. It'll actually say something.

[tajitj]

But what are the chances of the media covering a million dollar money bomb when Obama raised 40 million in March?

[Patriot123]

Because there's all ready a presumptive nominee? It'll be a shocker for the media, and it'll show them that we're not going to just stand here and let either three of these candidates into the White House. Plus, Obama isn't raising six million a day, now. He's raising maybe a million or two a day.

[szczebrzeszyn]

It'll be a shocker for the media, and it'll show them that we're not going to just stand here and let either three of these candidates into the White House.

A shocker? Are you kidding? It was not a shocker when Paul was the biggest (or in the top) fundraiser in 4th quarter. If that's the only reason to pull it, then it's a waste of money, because they won't spend a minute on that. Wanna bet?


Plus, Obama isn't raising six million a day, now. He's raising maybe a million or two a day.

Well, I'd prefer 1-2 million a day CONSTANTLY than 6 million once a quarter. What do you think is better? Because you sounded like 6mil a day is somehow superior...

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

if you don't like the idea, don't donate

[Patriot123]

A shocker? Are you kidding? It was not a shocker when Paul was the biggest (or in the top) fundraiser in 4th quarter. If that's the only reason to pull it, then it's a waste of money, because they won't spend a minute on that. Wanna bet?



Well, I'd prefer 1-2 million a day CONSTANTLY than 6 million once a quarter. What do you think is better? Because you sounded like 6mil a day is somehow superior...
To the media it is. An example of this is the previous money bombs.

[hillertexas]

Hey...on the website....your banner says "take a stance". It should probably say "take a stand"?

[Patriot123]

Meh... Same thing, really. But it does sound better as stand, actually. I'll change it.

[voytechs]

Meh... Same thing, really. But it does sound better as stand, actually. I'll change it.

I'm back. I incorporated the changes patriot sent me. I think the consensus is to host it on my server. I'll create an account for Patriot to login and he can update the website to his content.

http://dday2008.com

[mannycp]

bump

[Patriot123]

Well, everythings now up. Now we just need to get the word out about this... and fast.

[tajitj]

If we mini-bombed the High Tide Ad http://alcpac.chipin.com/the-high-tide-airtime2 with maybe $25k in the next couple of weeks for the remaining primaries, we'd see the biggest effect.

Much better idea than donating to his campaign when there is not campaigning to do. Time is now. South Dakota, Oregon, Idaho, are winnable.

Imagine if we win like 40 delegates in PA. That is a real possibility. Have you heard about how they are selected. Good chance we get a huge majority.

[hotbrownsauce]

The site is up and I am in!!!!!!!

[Patriot123]

We could really use some help advertising this. If anyone has any connections, please. We need to get the word out about this.

[Jeremy]

I would rather see a moneybomb for a congressional campaign at this point. RP's campaign has already planned on what they'll spend and how they'll afford it. They don't really care about donations anymore... let's use our money wisely. And it won't get media attention.

There's a moneybomb for Vern next... go do that. I'm starting to work on one for somebody else as well.

[Patriot123]

If you don't like the idea, don't donate... There's tons of other mass donation days for other folks. This one is simply symbolic. It'll have more meaning than the other ones if it's successful. And it will get media attention, assuming it is successful and people actually donate. Why? Because McCain is all ready the presumptive nominee.

[hotbrownsauce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvLcD9MDjyA

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

why are we showing things explode?
take this down please

[Patriot123]

Bump.

[pinkmandy]

I'm in. :)

[FireofLiberty]

If you're going to do another money bomb please, please, please make it for the RPR Congressional candidates.

[vanadium]

Perhaps... Depends of I can free up some funds.

[runningdiz]

If you're going to do another money bomb please, please, please make it for the RPR Congressional candidates.

THANK YOU! Why donate to a campaign that is over? The media wont care and your kidding yourself if you think you can pull off another one million dollar money bomb. Even if it does work we will be in the news for one day then forgotten about AGAIN!! Such an achievement. Give the money to people who can actually USE IT! These congressional campaigns have all told us they need 300,000 to be viable. We should be able to do that EASILY yet nobody seems to care. Already one candidate who had a good chance at winning dropped out because the funds never materialized. If this keeps up the only Ron Paul supporter that will be in congress is Ron Paul himself.

Its time to man up and join reality.

[Patriot123]

THANK YOU! Why donate to a campaign that is over? The media wont care and your kidding yourself if you think you can pull off another one million dollar money bomb. Even if it does work we will be in the news for one day then forgotten about AGAIN!! Such an achievement. Give the money to people who can actually USE IT! These congressional campaigns have all told us they need 300,000 to be viable. We should be able to do that EASILY yet nobody seems to care. Already one candidate who had a good chance at winning dropped out because the funds never materialized. If this keeps up the only Ron Paul supporter that will be in congress is Ron Paul himself.

Its time to man up and join reality.

If you're going to be a "summer soldier," then don't donate. Simple as that. Don't come into this thread bashing the idea, just because we want to take a last stand. There's many other money bombs for congressional campaigns. Why not join one of those? Or create one yourself? This one is to show the general media that even though we may have lost, we're not going to shut up. We're not going to take this so easily. I though this was a revolution. Mhmm?

[runningdiz]

If you're going to be a "summer soldier," then don't donate. Simple as that. Don't come into this thread bashing the idea, just because we want to take a last stand. There's many other money bombs for congressional campaigns. Why not join one of those? Or create one yourself? This one is to show the general media that even though we may have lost, we're not going to shut up. We're not going to take this so easily. I though this was a revolution. Mhmm?

A last stand? How is donating money to a campaign that admits it cant win in a conventional sense a last stand? What do they need the money for in June? There no longer is a live ticker on the site so the media would have no proof it happened. This is a revolution your completely right but by funneling money away from campaigns that have a real purpose for the money is not wise. I respect your right to create a money bomb I just question its purpose. In the past we have done money bombs to create media attention but most importantly to give the campaign funds it needed to advertise, hire staff and so on. They have five million in the bank the money is no longer needed otherwise they would of asked for it.

Ever consider there could be some breaking news story that day? What will happen to this glorious last stand then? It wont ever be noticed and would be all for nothing. There is just no reason to raise millions of dollars to garner the attention of the media.

[szczebrzeszyn]

NM

[Patriot123]

A last stand? How is donating money to a campaign that admits it cant win in a conventional sense a last stand? What do they need the money for in June? There no longer is a live ticker on the site so the media would have no proof it happened. This is a revolution your completely right but by funneling money away from campaigns that have a real purpose for the money is not wise. I respect your right to create a money bomb I just question its purpose. In the past we have done money bombs to create media attention but most importantly to give the campaign funds it needed to advertise, hire staff and so on. They have five million in the bank the money is no longer needed otherwise they would of asked for it.

Ever consider there could be some breaking news story that day? What will happen to this glorious last stand then? It wont ever be noticed and would be all for nothing. There is just no reason to raise millions of dollars to garner the attention of the media.

What if there's a major story that day? I could say the same about anything else. What if a bomb blows up my house tomorrow? I'll be homeless. What if I lose my job tomorrow? I'll be unemployed. These sorts of arguments are self refuting.

If we gather enough revenue, we can and will gain media attention. Why? What better story is there than thousands of people donating millions of dollars to a campaign symbolically, just for their ideology? It would gain much more of a fuss than the last few.

[runningdiz]

What if there's a major story that day? I could say the same about anything else. What if a bomb blows up my house tomorrow? I'll be homeless. What if I lose my job tomorrow? I'll be unemployed. These sorts of arguments are self refuting.

If we gather enough revenue, we can and will gain media attention. Why? What better story is there than thousands of people donating millions of dollars to a campaign symbolically, just for their ideology? It would gain much more of a fuss than the last few.

You missed my point... The other money bombs had a purpose other than gaining media attention. Yours does not which is why if something did happen the bomb would blow up in your face.

The media does not care about thousands of people donating millions of dollars to campaign "symbolically" If you really believe it would gain much more fuss than the last two, then your REALLY kidding yourself and out of touch with reality. Take a minute to think about what your saying. Also the chances of getting a million or more from this at this point of the campaign is next to nothing. I think saying you could raise 500,000 at this point is stretching it.

How will you motivate people to donate to a campaign that has no need for it?

[Patriot123]

You missed my point... The other money bombs had a purpose other than gaining media attention. Yours does not which is why if something did happen the bomb would blow up in your face.

The media does not care about thousands of people donating millions of dollars to campaign "symbolically" If you really believe it would gain much more fuss than the last two, then your REALLY kidding yourself and out of touch with reality. Take a minute to think about what your saying. Also the chances of getting a million or more from this at this point of the campaign is next to nothing. I think saying you could raise 500,000 at this point is stretching it.

How will you motivate people to donate to a campaign that has no need for it?

It'll remain impossible due to the mentality that you and many others have. And of course the media would care. Where there's a story, there's a reporter. It isn't even just symbolic, but it would also pressure Ron Paul to run Independent, too. If you don't like the idea, don't donate. Simple as that.

[runningdiz]

It'll remain impossible due to the mentality that you and many others have. And of course the media would care. Where there's a story, there's a reporter. It isn't even just symbolic, but it would also pressure Ron Paul to run Independent, too. If you don't like the idea, don't donate. Simple as that.

Well... you just admitted yourself this money bomb wont work. Its not because of our "mentality" its because we have common sense and realize the campaign is over and does not need the money.

Only reason I bring all of this up is it would be sad if you talked people into doing this by leading them to believe it will be some glorious last stand, that will vindicate Ron Paul in the eyes of the media. As someone else has said on this forum doing this will be "throwing money into a black hole". It would be a shame to see someone lead people into doing that promising false results.

He has said he wont run independent many times and if you think giving him a million more he will miraculously change his mind your delusional.

The media wont care because it wont be a story. People raising money for no reason other than to get the medias attention is not a story. Sorry:(

[Patriot123]

You're closed minded. You're only seeing one side of this, and that side only. I didn't say it couldn't work, I said, or rather implied that it won't work if people like you continue to have the mentality that you have.

Again, if you don't like the idea, don't donate. Simple as that. No need to start up a debate over it.[/b]

[runningdiz]

I am not being close minded. I see your side of the story. You just want some more media attention to get Ron's message out, nothing wrong with that. Sadly it wont work but most importantly it will be a waste of every ones money because giving him more money wont help him win. A money bomb for the sole purpose of media attention is wrong.

Why not do it for Sabrin instead or the many other candidates who desperately need it, get the media attention for the message AND actually accomplish something. :) Sounds intelligent.

If you did not want the thread to be a debate you should have not called it "Money Bomb... ?" ;)

[Patriot123]

I never said it was just for 'media attention.' I also said it was symbolic. And 'wasting money?' Some people have a different view of what's wasteful than you do.

[Patriot123]

Bump.

[eleganz]

so is this money bomb going on or what? i'm ready to donate!

[Suzu]

Here's some free money to use for the purpose:

Remember when Paypal started out and they gave bonuses to sign up for an account? Well, their competitor Revolution Money Exchange (https://www.revolutionmoneyexchange.com/ReferAFriend/ReferAFriend_landing.aspx?referreremail=patricia25 1@centurytel.net) is doing the same. I signed up and they put $25 into my account. If we all do the same, and then give the free money to our pro-liberty projects and candidates, we will have done a good thing.

Click the button below if you want to take advantage of the offer - it's valid until May 15th only:


http://usesuzu.info/img/rmex.gif (https://www.revolutionmoneyexchange.com/ReferAFriend/ReferAFriend_landing.aspx?referreremail=patricia25 1@centurytel.net)

[purplechoe]

I maxed out before the 12/16 money bomb and I'm sure there are quite a lot of people out there in the same boat as me.

[Patriot123]

I maxed out before the 12/16 money bomb and I'm sure there are quite a lot of people out there in the same boat as me.

Well, we'll try. See what we can come up with. Any major amount will make a hell lot of progress. People are trying to pressure Ron Paul into running as an independent, and this might very well turn the tides... if it's big enough. However, the only way this can happen is if people get the word out about this. If you own a website, put the banner up. If you go on forums, put the banner in your signature. We need all the advertising we can get if this is to work. Otherwise it'll be another '$60,000' money bomb rather than adding a couple more zeros onto that.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Imagine. Just one last money bomb to show the media and such that we're not going to 'be quite and shut up.' I have the resources to put the website together... Would anyone actually... Still even consider participating in one? Just curious. It wouldn't even have to be that big at all. Just big enough to make a point.

This sounds like a great idea!!!!

However, many of us are maxed out ($2,300 club members) and while I don't recall the date, there is a cutoff that I'm pretty sure we have not crossed yet where donations are considered going for the primary campaign, and after that for the presidential one.

At least I think what's how it works. I also heard, that $ donated above that amount would be applied to the second election. but someone posted a while ago that the campaign was refunding money above the primary campaign fund... so I really don't know what's going on - but it might be smart to wait a while so everyone that is maxed out could donate.

Can anyone clarify?

Either that or donate to the PAC.

-n

[Patriot123]

Let me actually update the post... The website and date is all ready up: http://dday2008.com

June 6th. It's after all of the primaries.

[tangent4ronpaul]

OK - that won't work... :(

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/donation-questions

Why is Ron Paul’s campaign not accepting money for the general election? When will I be able to give for the purposes for the general election?

Money collected for the general election must be segregated, may not be spent, and must be returned in the event Dr. Paul is not a general election candidate. At the moment, we have no plans to collect general election donations, and we have been refunding anyone who has given in excess of their $2,300 individual limit.

[Patriot123]

Well when do donations for the general election start?

[CurtisLow]

MoneyBomb bump!

[Patriot123]

Wait, does anyone know when the donations for the general election start?

[voytechs]

I'd guess after the primary. He could also take donations now, but if he doesn't get the nomination he's required to turn them over to the winner. So I guess Dr. Paul has a good reason not to collect that money if there is a chance it would help McSellout.

[VoteForRonPaul]

This topic is really a joke!

Nobody should donate a penny unless if they know for sure where their money is going to be spent!

Other than that it is a fraud to ask the people to donate, while there is a zero strategy for what is going to be done by their money.

The official campaign has over 5 million dollars and refuses to use it as the grassroots wish which means on TV advertising.

Now it is too silly to ask for donations while you provide the people with no strategy but the myth of getting the media attention. If you are really serious about media attention you got to pay to be there, buying a consistent air time for Ron Paul is the true winner!

Please STOP stealing people's money!