Memo where Bush authorizes torture

[Mesogen]

PDF FORMAT:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB127/02.02.07.pdf

Kind of Interesting. Really it says "Geneva Conventions don't apply to the Taliban because this conflict in international in scope" Huh? Whatever. You're still a torturer, Bush.

It says "We will treat people in a manner consistent with Geneva conventions." Right after he says that the conventions don't apply to these people.

Then it says "we will treat people humanely even if they don't deserve it."

I'm sure Bush thinks that waterboarding and psycho-sexual torture is humane, according to their definition. It's all word games with these people.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0945327720080410?rpc=92

Top Bush aides approved torture

"Highly placed sources said a handful of top advisers signed off on how the CIA would interrogate top al Qaeda suspects -- whether they would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding," ABC reported.
So they checked off which torture techniques should be used on what prisoner, like ordering off a deli menu.

And remember, waterboarding isn't simulated drowning. It is drowning someone and then letting them breathe again right before they die.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/11/183746/396/330/493942
Yeah, it's daily kos, get over it.


George Bush and Dick Cheney, sexual torturers.

[SeanEdwards]

Have you read the Geneva conventions? You can find them online.

The requirements for a captured combatant to qualify as a prisoner of war are very explicit, and terrorists don't meet any of them. The conventions do say however, that that the POW status of any individual combatant who is captured should be determined by a qualified tribunal. That is to say that the captured combatant should have an opportunity to try and prove that they deserve POW status.

If they aren't a POW, then all the priveleges and protections of POW status go out the window, and the combatant can be treated like a common criminal.

I don't want to get into a fight about torture, but I will say that I find it amusing that our society blithely accepts the necessity for police officer to enforce compliance by causing pain on our own citizens, even before they're convicted of anything, yet everyone is having a cow over waterboarding. A cop is authorized to spray pepper spray in your eyes, beat you, electrocute you, even shoot you, in order to get you to comply, so why all the hysteria over dunking a terrorist's head under water?