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Patriot123
04-11-2008, 09:19 PM
I know I made a somewhat similar post a few months back, but I'm just curious... People call America a Democracy. Educated folks call it a Republic. But are we not Fascist? Socialist? A Fascist/Socialist Republic? The airlines answer to the government, basically. Bush is handing out 'free Monopoly money' to fellow Americans. We're talking about free health care as of now with "Hillcare." No one technically 'owns' property as we pay a property tax to the government which we did not have before, or at least I don't believe so. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that one, please) Corporations are essentially manipulated by our government.

So... Let's take a look at the actual definition of Fascism.

An ideology that combines dictatorial government, militarism, control of the personal freedom, extreme nationalism, and government control of business. ...

Is our government not essentially now a dictatorship? Well, all right, to be fair it isn't necessarily a complete dictatorship as of now, but it has the authority to be one) Is there militarism? No... However, control of personal freedom? Of course. Extreme nationalism? Of course? John McCain's followers for example? And of course, government control of business... Of course that's a yes. So the only thing we're missing here is militarism. Military rule of the country.

I'd still classify us as Fascist. Or at least very, very, near it. Enough to actually call our country Fascist.


So... I'd just like some opinions on this; on whether or not we're in fact a Fascist Republic. And also on militarism in the US.

nate895
04-11-2008, 09:26 PM
You cannot have a "fascist" government Constitutionally. We have a de facto socialistic fascistic democracy.

BTW, property taxes have always been paid, but there used to be ways of getting an allodial title to get out of the property tax.

IChooseLiberty
04-11-2008, 09:30 PM
I'd say yes and if I had to label what we have I'd call it a Fascistic Oligarchy.

Charles Wilson
04-11-2008, 09:33 PM
I know I made a somewhat similar post a few months back, but I'm just curious... People call America a Democracy. Educated folks call it a Republic. But are we not Fascist? Socialist? A Fascist/Socialist Republic? The airlines answer to the government, basically. Bush is handing out 'free Monopoly money' to fellow Americans. We're talking about free health care as of now with "Hillcare." No one technically 'owns' property as we pay a property tax to the government which we did not have before, or at least I don't believe so. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that one, please) Corporations are essentially manipulated by our government.

So... Let's take a look at the actual definition of Fascism.

An ideology that combines dictatorial government, militarism, control of the personal freedom, extreme nationalism, and government control of business. ...

Is our government not essentially now a dictatorship? Well, all right, to be fair it isn't necessarily a complete dictatorship as of now, but it has the authority to be one) Is there militarism? No... However, control of personal freedom? Of course. Extreme nationalism? Of course? John McCain's followers for example? And of course, government control of business... Of course that's a yes. So the only thing we're missing here is militarism. Military rule of the country.

I'd still classify us as Fascist. Or at least very, very, near it. Enough to actually call our country Fascist.


So... I'd just like some opinions on this; on whether or not we're in fact a Fascist Republic. And also on militarism in the US.

The military has infiltrated some of the Federal civilian agencies -- the CIA is one of them. The head of the CIA wears a US Air Force uniform. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency. And http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060508-2.html

Conza88
04-12-2008, 12:26 AM
Tried to educate my tutor about this. Difference between Democracy and a Constitutional Republic. I refered to Pure Democracy, mob rule etc.

He reverted to, no the US is a "Liberal Democracy"... so, thats the same as a constitutional republic? :| or close?

constituent
04-12-2008, 06:38 AM
this came up recently (a variant, anyway). check it out here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1378353&postcount=44).