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dirtyp
04-09-2008, 01:34 AM
by Ron Paul | April 7, 2008
Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk

Last month, the House amended the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to expand the government’s ability to monitor our private communications. This measure, if it becomes law, will result in more warrantless government surveillance of innocent American citizens.

Though some opponents claimed that the only controversial part of this legislation was its grant of immunity to telecommunications companies, there is much more to be wary of in the bill. In the House version, Title II, Section 801, extends immunity from prosecution of civil legal action to people and companies including any provider of an electronic communication service, any provider of a remote computing service, “any other communication service provider who has access to wire or electronic communications,” any “parent, subsidiary, affiliate, successor, or assignee” of such company, any “officer, employee, or agent” of any such company, and any “landlord, custodian, or other person who may be authorized or required to furnish assistance.” The Senate version goes even further by granting retroactive immunity to such entities that may have broken the law in the past.
http://waronyou.com/2008/04/the-emerging-surveillance-state/

soapmistress
04-09-2008, 01:37 AM
Ewww. Imagine the people who have home alarm systems with wired-in monitoring. They could be super spied on

TruthAtLast
04-09-2008, 09:26 AM
It seems that over the past 8 years our civil liberties are being stripped away in the name of "security". With the REAL ID bill, the new Patriot ACT that dismantles FISA and increases surveillance on any innocent American for any reason (including political rivals), the Homegrown Terrorist Act that can jail people for thought crimes and label anyone not agreeing with the Government a terrorist, and now the new Social Security Amendment that looks to do what REAL ID couldn't and FORCE all Americans to carry their "papers" with them with all of their information.

Is destroying our civil liberties and ignoring the Constitution the ONLY way to keep us safe? What hope is there with such a wide net cast that innocent Americans wouldn't also be caught, especially now that all judicial oversight has also been eliminated? Is giving up Freedom the cost of protecting Freedom? It begs the question of what we are really protecting.

Libertytree
04-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Most people want to feel secure, even if it means giving up their liberties. All of us here know that to be a false logic but the rest of the country can't understand that concept.

dbhohio47
04-09-2008, 10:38 AM
Speaking of being spied on.....here's where we're heading: http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf

wowabunga
04-09-2008, 10:50 AM
Let me first start by saying "net nutrality" is waiting for the nails to be hammered into the coffin.... Each ISP already has written in it's small print a clause that allows them to shut YOU off for any reason they deam. It's just that they have not used their contractual rights due to publik outcry.


Those documents you agree to — usually without reading — ostensibly allow your ISP to watch how you use the Internet, read your e-mail or keep you from visiting sites it deems inappropriate. Some reserve the right to block traffic and, for any reason, cut off a service that many users now find essential.

http://www. katu.com/news/tech/17352789.html

Now here's where the hammer shows up: media advertising is taking a hit from all sides. iPods and web radio have main radio advertising on the slide. Craigslist is kick'n arse when it comes to newspaper classifieds and huge losses in revenue for papers. And TV... the Tivo and the huge numbers of shows available dwindles their revenues.

But thanks to good old technology, lets stop and give thanks for technology, and anyway the advertising machinery is now looking to the growing internet wave to keep their era moving forward. A current project is tracking 100,000 citizens ( unknowingly ) with every key stoke that they type... compile'n the data and hitting you up with the products that conform to your deep extended profile.

http://www. washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304052.html

Happy Surf'n....

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Primbs
04-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Scary. But Funny. Speaking of being spied on.....here's where we're heading: http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf