Union VS Corp.

[Paul Revered]

I'm not the most politically educated; so I generally read much more than I write. These questions have been puzzling me for quite some time. I posted them in another forum but did not receive an adequate response. The people in this forum are much more educated. This is my first post in this forum. Please enlighten me.

I'm a Conservative Republican. I am not, not have ever been a union member; and I own a corporation. It is my understanding, that as free Americans, we have unlimited rights to enter legal contracts. Why don't Conservatives generally support unions? I've heard them referred to as Socialistic. How is a union more socialistic, than a corporation?

[Kludge]

It depends... There are many states (Such as Michigan... UGH) that aren't "Right-To-Work" states, meaning that if you are employed in some companies, you are REQUIRED to join that Union to work there.

It's inefficient and is all planned out. It's socialist. Contracts are fine, so long as people have a choice whether or not to enter into them (and PAY the Union).

[hypnagogue]

I see unions as a fairly reasonable response to the modern situation where the owners of a business have something of a monopoly on the means of production. Of course, a union can not force an employer to do anything. Any business where an employee must join a union as a stipulation of employment is that way because the owner's have agreed to that. The owners collectively bargain to make the most with their infrastructure and the workers collectively bargain to make the most with their labor.

Unions, of course, like any other organization are susceptible to corruption. That having been said, I've never belonged to nor had any dealings with a union, so this is simply my opinion based on the theory of the thing.

[Conza88]

Rp doesn't mind them, as long as you have a choice to join.. and there is no union monopoly in the industry. Got to be more than 1, competition etc. :)

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I'm not the most politically educated; so I generally read much more than I write. These questions have been puzzling me for quite some time. I posted them in another forum but did not receive an adequate response. The people in this forum are much more educated. This is my first post in this forum. Please enlighten me.

I'm a Conservative Republican. I am not, not have ever been a union member; and I own a corporation. It is my understanding, that as free Americans, we have unlimited rights to enter legal contracts. Why don't Conservatives generally support unions? I've heard them referred to as Socialistic. How is a union more socialistic, than a corporation?

How about supporting neither? Government should remain neutral. And corporations are not natural elements of a free market; they are sanctioned by GOVERNMENT.

[AutoDas]

Unions are a natural part of capitalism. Workers unite just like how businesses unite to form corporations. Each looked out for their own interests. Then they compromise whenever they feel like they should and whoever has the most to lose just gives in.

Unions today are trying to get as much labor laws passed. They take money from their members for lobbying instead of helping them strike.

[freedominnumbers]

Unions in theory are a great thing and many unions are great for their members. The problem is with preferential legislation that makes them too powerful. As it stands many unions basically have a monopoly on employees.

Take for example a hotel that opened up near me. They chose to go non-union when they opened from that day they opened the union blocked their doors and scared off their guests. All with the nod of the Attorney General. Eventually they filed suit to force a union election against the wishes of the employees and management. They are union now.

Another example in the news was at one of the indian casinos around here. The united auto workers union had sued to force a card check (read: intimidation) election to unionize the casino dealers. They refused to allow a closed ballot vote.

Employers should have the right to not go along with a union if they choose. Many times they don't have that right with today's legislation.

The state jobs here are an even better example. State employees through the union receive the best wages and benefits around. There is nothing competitive in the private sector. In their contract with the state they stipulate that if anyone doesn't want to join the union the state is required to withhold a fee from that employee to be forwarded to the union which happens to be equal to the union membership dues anyways.

[sratiug]

How about supporting neither? Government should remain neutral. And corporations are not natural elements of a free market; they are sanctioned by GOVERNMENT.

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That's why I think we should take over Delaware, kill the banks, and kill the evil corporations. States have neglected their responsibility to only allow corporations for publicly beneficial reasons.

I don't think corporations are mentioned in the Constitution. If not, that means anything like the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and such does not really exist.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I'm not the most politically educated; so I generally read much more than I write. These questions have been puzzling me for quite some time. I posted them in another forum but did not receive an adequate response. The people in this forum are much more educated. This is my first post in this forum. Please enlighten me.

I'm a Conservative Republican. I am not, not have ever been a union member; and I own a corporation. It is my understanding, that as free Americans, we have unlimited rights to enter legal contracts. Why don't Conservatives generally support unions? I've heard them referred to as Socialistic. How is a union more socialistic, than a corporation?

In an effort to advance civilization by further removing the caste system from our nation, unions were just one of many movements. Other movements included the abolishment of slavery, the New Deal against Social Darwinism of the Great Depression and the Civil Rights movement to redistribute wealth.
Unions gave workers ground to challenge company owners. Because they have fewer rights while working on the grounds of private property, Unions gave workers the power and the protection to exercize them on public property.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

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That's why I think we should take over Delaware, kill the banks, and kill the evil corporations. States have neglected their responsibility to only allow corporations for publicly beneficial reasons.

I don't think corporations are mentioned in the Constitution. If not, that means anything like the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and such does not really exist.

Yes, why is it needed? Just start a business, why do we even need these very specific and regulated structures for? So yeah, I'm against the whole concept of corporations. I think it's a gov monopoly over business models.