From Michael Tsarion

[Brian_Mattern]

We must have it understood that KNOWLEDGE is the only weapon that can be used against the universal evil that is reigning and trying to steal every last ounce of man's resolve, passion, strength and sovereignty.
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If you fear, then you are already dead. The war is on consciousness, and the best defense against this war is knowledge. If you dont have inner harmony and balance, you cannot ever have it socially or politically.
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I don't know how long it is going to take for mankind to get this rather simple philosophy.
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I agree with most of what great researchers like Alex Jones and others are doing, but I will not place the emphasis on the external drama, as they do. Tomorrow they will learn that it goes so much deeper than that.
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Where are the roots of all this external conflict? What brings it all into being? This is the question we must ask. If we find monsters in our midst, we must ask how they got there. We will be surprised at the answers.
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There is a lot to learn between now and 2012, and the class begins as Pluto crosses Galactic Center. The teacher is on his horse and is approaching. Class will soon be in session.
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What you see outside is a mirror reflection of what lies within. It is the result of Psychic Epidemics. The most infected ones rule - that is - they think they do.

[Brian_Mattern]

Are their many 'new age' type thinkers here?

Who've read the works of Robert Anton Wilson, and David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Dalai Lama, Bill Hicks, and now Eckhart Tolle is a great soul to give a listen to.

And the whole quantum physics realization/phenomenon.

[orlandoinfl]

All this is mass distraction from REAL WORLD events. What good is this introspective garbage when the US is pissing off Russia and about to attack Iran?

[Broadlighter]

There once was time in this nation where the seeking of truth served as the basis for determining justice and good governance.

That has been replaced by the seeking of power and so now, those who value the truth are trying to win back the reigns of power.

We're all individuals living in various states of consciousness. We're not all going to get there at the same time as many "New Age" thinkers believe.

We cannot manifest our highest inner qualities in the exterior world until conditions allow and we're not even close to that. This revolution is a part of that, but what we actually end up with will likely be something very different.

[Rhys]

quantum mechanics lends a lot of weight to the ideas of metaphysics, however, too many non-physicists convinced themselves that science backs up infinite dimensions and infinite truth. science actually hates infinity. It's a bad word.

to me, the better evidence is the first law of thermodynamics which states an object must radiate (emit energy). bad thing for new agers is the second law says the disorder of the universe must always increase.

the brain being a quantum computer could very well be able to manipulate quantum states because of Uncertainty... but also because of Uncertainty, may never predict the outcome.

Therefor, when it comes to God, I like to remember the Tao De Ching which opens with "The Toa that can be named is not the Eternal Tao." This means, if you can define the universe or even say "universe" or even say "God", that is not the true God. The God which you can name is part of the "10,000 things" which all bear "10,000 more things."

Which then you realize, you're into fractal geometry and chaos theory. At that point, you leave science because there's no where left to go. The fractal is infinitely complex and infinitely precise with no beginning or end.

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

It would be nice if in 2012 a race of benevolent ET's righted the wrongs here on Earth and gave us our planet back, but you know what? This is just a 21st century rapture scenario; modernized from every generation's rapture scenario since Christianity began.

We are responsible for our own enslavement. Nobody saved England from the Romans or Europe from the Turks or the Jews from the Nazis and no one will save us now.

It's spiritual fluff. Each person is responsible for only themselves, and to help each other along the way in reclaiming their dignity.

How loud we scream for liberty is pointless. Being liberty and living liberty and integrating the soul with the personality is what inspires.

[Lance C Roseman]

to me, the better evidence is the first law of thermodynamics which states an object must radiate (emit energy). bad thing for new agers is the second law says the disorder of the universe must always increase.



Victor Schauberger broke the 2nd 'law' of thermodynamics in 1952...

"Indeed at the Stuttgart University of Technology, West Germany in 1952 these theories were tested under strict scientific and laboratory conditions by Professor Dr. Ing. Franz Pöpel, a hydraulics specialist. These tests showed that, when water is allowed to flow in its naturally ordained manner, it actually generates certain energies, ultimately achieving a condition that could be termed 'negative friction'. Checked and double-checked, this well-documented, but largely unpublicized, pioneering discovery not only vindicated Viktor Schauberger's theories. It also over-turned the hitherto scientifically sacred 'Second Law of Thermodynamics' in which, without further or continuous input of energy, all (closed) systems must degenerate into a condition of total chaos or entropy. These experiments proved that this law, whilst it applies to all mechanical systems, does not apply wholly to living organisms."

http://www.scene.org/~esa/search/frank.germano.com/2006_03_10/viktorschauberger.htm

[Brian_Mattern]

good counter-point.

[All Seeing Eye]

Are their many 'new age' type thinkers here?

Maybe more than you could possibly dare to imagine!

[All Seeing Eye]

Which then you realize, you're into fractal geometry and chaos theory. At that point, you leave science because there's no where left to go. The fractal is infinitely complex and infinitely precise with no beginning or end.

Amen brother Rhys and very well said sir!