Boycott Absolut, absolutely :/

[Am3RiCaN_microcosm]

The swedish vodka producer wants a piece of the action it seems as well.... lets let them know what we think of their new vision :mad:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2251/2383371667_df5fc24e2d.jpg

this is a little piece they started running in mexico recently, according to roguegovernment.com

[Chibioz]

seriously?

[The One]

mmmmmm....vodka.:D

[Jeremy]

WOW

They might as well call America England because we left them. Just like Texas left Mexico, etc. WAIT... Mexico is Spain... WAIT... Mexico belongs to the Mayons and other natives before even that... WAIT... yes, this is ridiculous.

[LittleLightShining]

Looks like Juan Hernandez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i7dyp_nK_Q) has been talking to them.

[nate895]

In an Absolut World: Ron Paul would be President!!!!!!!

I am not old enough to drink, and my dad drinks Smirnoff anyway.

[Jason726]

Before everyone gets up in arms and starts emailing absolut, can we get some kind of confirmation that this isnt just some photoshop prank.

[Am3RiCaN_microcosm]

you mean like this version of the pic on the side of a building in mexico??? i hope this is proof enough.... google it there are many more references to it.

http://www.absolutads.com/?p=800

http://www.absolutads.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/mexicog.JPG

[banjojambo9]

Mexicans Are Stealing Our Nation's Vodka!Absolut ran an ad in Mexico showing the pre-1848 map of that country with the tagline, "In An Absolut World." The ad agency explained to the LA Times, unnecessarily, that "The campaign taps into the national pride of Mexicans." Now I see! Well, true patriots in this country aren't about to stand for some Mexicans reconquering the American Southwest via a liquor advertisement. Some internet users—even Long Islanders!—are calling for an Absolut boycott [LAT via Drudge]. That's fine with us. Xenophobes don't need to be drinking in the first place. The full version of the treasonous ad is below.

[Kotin]

those bastards and their vodka.


i am a whiskey man myself.

[ItsTime]

I will never buy absolute again.

[banjojambo9]

I cant wait for the drunk pistol shooting mexicans to show up -actually they were here last week

[LittleLightShining]

those bastards and their vodka.


i am a whiskey man myself.I don't really like vodka, either. I prefer gin :D

[szczebrzeszyn]

Try some polish vodka :)

[CurtisLow]

CAPTAIN MORGAN PRIVATE STOCK for me. yummy good.

[beachmaster]

beer and brandy here... an occasional vodka martini, made with Stoli of course.

Fuk Absolut.

seems they got into another marketing controversy years ago as well. can't recall exactly wut it wus tho.

[ItsTime]

I have always been a fan of Knob Creek

[sluggo]

Unbelievable.

[Rhys]

lol come on guys. as a marketer, I'd have no problem running that all over mexico. I bet they're selling the shit out of some vodka.

i'll stick with the Captain anyway but damn. talk about much ado about nothing.

[ItsTime]

Remind me never to hire you as a marketer. We live in the internet age when you are a large company like this they have to know others will find out about it.

The only think I can think that they AV is betting on is that they will pick up more Mexicans in America than Americans they lose due to the ad. But why even take that chance?


lol come on guys. as a marketer, I'd have no problem running that all over mexico. I bet they're selling the shit out of some vodka.

i'll stick with the Captain anyway but damn. talk about much ado about nothing.

[freedom-maniac]

i hope this is proof enough....

Is that a pun of Alcohol Proof?

[Rhys]

Remind me never to hire you as a marketer. We live in the internet age when you are a large company like this they have to know others will find out about it.

The only think I can think that they AV is betting on is that they will pick up more Mexicans in America than Americans they lose due to the ad. But why even take that chance?

i understand your thinking, but it reality, it doesn't hold out. You and all your friends can boycott it over this.

3 million Mexicans just orded a shot. It wasn't Jose Cuervo this time.

I don't need you to hire me. :P

[thuja]

that's creepy. if i drank, i guess this would make me do so, but certainly not that brand. Boycott for sure!

[freedom-maniac]

Speaking of this, have any of you heard of Project Reconquesta?

[Am3RiCaN_microcosm]

lol come on guys. as a marketer, I'd have no problem running that all over mexico. I bet they're selling the shit out of some vodka.

i'll stick with the Captain anyway but damn. talk about much ado about nothing.

hey after all I'm not disagreeing that this is a HIGHLY effective marketing campaign, but rather I am just upset that because of its effectiveness it will surely do its part to both divide people as well as plant seeds in peoples minds about a future NAU....but I digress, I dont know if that kind of future-think is allowed here...

[ItsTime]

By the time it is over, it will not just be a me and all my friends. If any MSM pick up on this you will see AV making public apologies with egg all over their face and sales in the US will drop more than they will pick up in Mexico. You will see southern state bar owners stop selling it and so on.


i understand your thinking, but it reality, it doesn't hold out. You and all your friends can boycott it over this.

3 million Mexicans just orded a shot. It wasn't Jose Cuervo this time.

I don't need you to hire me. :P

[Rhys]

By the time it is over, it will not just be a me and all my friends. If any MSM pick up on this you will see AV making public apologies with egg all over their face and sales in the US will drop more than they will pick up in Mexico. You will see southern state bar owners stop selling it and so on.

that's not how the world works. Absolute is a HUGE global advertiser.

[Am3RiCaN_microcosm]

hey guys lets not argue on behalf of my little post...can we all just agree that no matter if its a smart marketing move or not that it is at least slightly disturbing?

[thuja]

it's more than just slightly disturbing. it has made me very depressed, picturing drunk mexicans everywhere, carrying their vodka bottles with them.
is anyone going to tell absolut to stop? what country is that co from now?

[Rhys]

sorry. I can't do that. Unfortunately, knowing Mexico's feelings on that map, it's just nothing more than playing to nationalism. Mexico's felt upset over losing that territory for a long time. It's not an NAU map, it's an 1800's map. Remember the Alamo? Absolute playes to those sorts of absolutes and sentiment in their ads... always have. I'm not arguing though... at least not attempting too.

[thuja]

Speaking of this, have any of you heard of Project Reconquesta?

that's what the map is all about.

[banjojambo9]

hey lets start smuggling drugs into mexico and decimate their teenage population .It would be like returning a favor

[RCA]

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[mdh]

Smirnoff is better than Absolut anyways. Of course, you can't beat homemade potato vodka.

[SeanEdwards]

This issue really has nothing to do with vodka. The marketing people chose that image because they felt it spoke to the Mexican people. That's what I find interesting about this whole deal.

Do Mexicans in general want to refight the Mexican-American war? :eek:

That seems really crazy.

Is it a kind of nationalistic pride reaction to anti-Mexican immigration rhetoric within the U.S.?

It's a real puzzle to me. But I gotta say it's not good PR for Mexicans in my opinion. I mean, we've got immigrant advocates always talking about how great these illegal immigrants are for America, but then things like this Absolut advertisement sure don't inspire much faith in the good intentions of these immigrants. People on both sides need to tone down the animosity, or I'm afraid things could turn ugly.

[Lord Xar]

This issue really has nothing to do with vodka. The marketing people chose that image because they felt it spoke to the Mexican people. That's what I find interesting about this whole deal.

Do Mexicans in general want to refight the Mexican-American war? :eek:

That seems really crazy.

Is it a kind of nationalistic pride reaction to anti-Mexican immigration rhetoric within the U.S.?

It's a real puzzle to me. But I gotta say it's not good PR for Mexicans in my opinion. I mean, we've got immigrant advocates always talking about how great these illegal immigrants are for America, but then things like this Absolut advertisement sure don't inspire much faith in the good intentions of these immigrants. People on both sides need to tone down the animosity, or I'm afraid things could turn ugly.

They don't have to fight any wars. They have been allowed by our government to totally come here illegally, have a ton of kids (on average) and they will take what they believe is theirs by force of population. They will elect all pro-mexico officials, and pretty much turn all those states into socialistic and open border environments.

[Unspun]

Grey Goose is better anyways...

[Cowlesy]

Want a good vodka?

Effen Vodka --- especially black cherry Effen Vodka --- it's so tasty you don't even need it on the rocks if you're drinking it straight --- and it's not $300 for a 750mL bottle, very affordable.

[jkm1864]

I love absolute and orange juice. As a matter of fact I am not gonna boycott my favorite drink due to a sign in mexico. I think I'll just refuse to hire a damn mexican and give them my money. I think they need to go back to their country anyway and make their country better instead of coming here and destroying our country. Oh before you get up and arms look at the statistics and You will realize it is true. I can't stand dems because they justify stealing by putting the rich tag on people.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I prefer fermented piss. lol

[steve005]

WOW

They might as well call America England because we left them. Just like Texas left Mexico, etc. WAIT... Mexico is Spain... WAIT... Mexico belongs to the Mayons and other natives before even that... WAIT... yes, this is ridiculous

so what are you saying? from this point forward all borders should be set in stone and changing them because the majority of the population changes would be ridiculous right? If you guys really beleived in freedom you'd see it for what it is; funny

[Soccrmastr]

lmao. yes not a good ad but surely popular down in Mexico.

[Akus]

The swedish vodka producer wants a piece of the action it seems as well.... lets let them know what we think of their new vision :mad:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2251/2383371667_df5fc24e2d.jpg

this is a little piece they started running in mexico recently, according to roguegovernment.com

Or you can laugh it off along with everyone else who's seen this because vodka ad is as close as Mexico is going to get to reaquiring these territories. Some of us are scared of a North American union void of any national or political identity and here you are, upset over a phantasy.

[JaylieWoW]

I've just realized I am a traitor to my country....


I much prefer TEQUILA (with a slice of lime). :o

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I like any alcohol. I prefer marijuana though.

[Andrew-Austin]

I don't drink.

Oh and how exactly are Mexicans frustrated about the loss of territory way the fuck back in the 1800s? The idea that the South West US belongs to Mexico and Mexicans, sounds like it stemmed from both racism and blind nationalism. There just doesn't seem to be any sense behind it.

[m72mc]

I think you overreact and misinterpret...is it not just an old map ??

I am a swede and absolut vodka is very popular here, though not very cheap.

It´s an old map on the ad running in Mexico right ? you know all nations like to have what they used to have...hardly anything to be upset over..it´s natural....
I would guess, you're Indians would like their territories back to.

[thuja]

I think you overreact and misinterpret...is it not just an old map ??

I am a swede and absolut vodka is very popular here, though not very cheap.

It´s an old map on the ad running in Mexico right ? you know all nations like to have what they used to have...hardly anything to be upset over..it´s natural....
I would guess, you're Indians would like their territories back to.
not right. there ar nasty militant mexican groups intent on taking the land marked in the map. why absolut participates is beyond me.

[LittleLightShining]

Do any of you even know who Juan Hernandez is? Did you watch the video link in my first post? He's John McCain's "Hispanic Outreach Coordinator," a dual citizen of the US and Mexico and he is 100% pro-immigration. He believes Mexicans should come here, however they can get here and always maintain a Mexico-first mindset. They want their land back.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Do any of you even know who Juan Hernandez is? Did you watch the video link in my first post? He's John McCain's "Hispanic Outreach Coordinator," a dual citizen of the US and Mexico and he is 100% pro-immigration. He believes Mexicans should come here, however they can get here and always maintain a Mexico-first mindset. They want their land back.

I thought he was a spy for the Mexican government.

[thompsonisland]

This ad is a little strange, but it hardly seems threatening. Really, the current US borders reflect theft, intrigue, violence, and general governmenty-ness. ALL the land is stolen from the legitimate title-holders, anywhere there are property taxes, anyway.

[thuja]

i would feel better about that map if it was from indian tribes, not mexicans.

[angelatc]

Made in America Skyy Vodka proudly supports the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago.


http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080411005171&newsLang=en


SKYY® Vodka, Made in the USA, Proudly Supports Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

America’s Most-Popular Domestic Vodka Decries Absolut® Vodka’s Suggestion to Redraw North American Map

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--In 1848, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo officially ended the Mexican-America War (1846-1848). With the signing of this treaty, the United States gained control of what was to become the Golden West, including California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada and parts of Colorado and New Mexico. Today, SKYY® Vodka, the number-one vodka produced in the United States, spoke out against suggestions by Absolut® Vodka to disregard that treaty, as well as the joining of Texas to the Union in 1845, as depicted in Absolut’s recent advertising.

“Like SKYY Vodka, the residents of states like California, Texas and Arizona are exceptionally proud of the fact that they are from the United States of America,” said Dave Karraker, SKYY Vodka. “To imply that they might be interested in changing their mailing addresses, as our competitor seems to be suggesting in their advertising, is a bit presumptuous.”

In the ad, an “Absolut World” is depicted where the map of North America is re-drawn with Mexico claiming much of the Western United States, negating the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, as well as the Gadsden Purchase (1853), and the independence of Texas (1836).

“Don’t get me started on the Gadsden Purchase,” continues Karraker. “I think the folks in Tucson and Yuma would be rubbed the wrong way if they hear this landmark deal was somehow nullified as suggested by Absolut, a Swedish-owned brand.”

SKYY Vodka was founded in San Francisco in 1992 and continues to be produced in the United States. Premium SKYY Vodka is made from American grain carefully selected from the Midwest and 100% pure filtered water. SKYY’s proprietary four-column distillation and three-step filtration process consistently ensures exceptional quality. SKYY Vodka products include luxury SKYY90® and new SKYY Infusions™, a unique, all-natural infused experience made with premium SKYY Vodka and succulent real fruit.

Contacts

Skyy Vodka
Jenni Hart, 415-315-8000

http://www.boycottabsolut.com/

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[JosephTheLibertarian]

The land belongs to the people not to government. All of the nations and national borders are completely ficticious and it reminds me of when many mafias own a little piece of a city. Iraq was weak, so the stronger mafia ate up the weaker one. Socialists worry who will watch over the private sectors but what worries me is who will look over the government?