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Andrew-Austin
04-01-2008, 10:29 AM
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_no_secret_trade_deals_0331.html

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_I_don_t_carry_any_CFR_card_or_know_special_h andshake

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Obama: I don't carry a Council on Foreign Relations card or know any 'special handshake'

Worries about One World Order and a North American Union have been "ginned up by the blogs and the Internet," Sen. Barack Obama told a Lancaster, Pennsylvania audience in a stump speech as he continued his tour through the battleground state.

The Illinois senator also defended the recently re-authorized Patriot Act.

Responding to a question from the audience, asking whether he was a member for the Council on Foreign Relations, a group many allege is leading a move toward one world government, Obama said:

"I don’t know if I’m an official member. I’ve spoken there before. It basically is a forum where people talk about foreign policy. There is no official membership. I don’t have a card, or you know a special handshake or anything like that."

Sen. Hillary Clinton has spoken several times to the club. Comments she made today against NAFTA, were posted on the group's website.

Often, because the council has served as lightning rod for conspiracy theorists, candidates shy away from listing their affiliation with the group.

Vice President Dick Cheney is a former director but has taken pains not to publicize the fact.

"I’ve been a member for long and was actually a director for some period of time," he told members in a speech broadcast on C-Span and now on YouTube, adding, "I never mentioned that when I was running for re-election back home in Wyoming."

The council has been at the center of several One World Order conspiracies with theorists contending that the group is conspiring to bring about one world government and a North American Union similar to the European Union.

Obama dismissed those notions.

"I see no evidence of this actually taking place," he said. "I think this is something that has been ginned up on certain blogs and the Internet. It was based mostly on the fact that there is this highway being built in Texas that will facilitate transportation more transportation between Mexico and the intercontinental United States and Canada...NAFTA helped to break down barriers, but I don’t think there is some conspiracy to create this one continental government."

Defends portions of Patriot Act

Obama said he opposed NAFTA because it didn’t offer enough protections to American workers but he defended portions of the Patriot Act which he said he worked on to cut out some of the most objectionable portions.

Free trade has been an issue across the nation in this campaign particularly as many once prosperous industrial states struggle with ways to cope with the changing global economy. It was a critical issue for voters in Ohio where Clinton managed to beat Obama. Pennsylvania voters have expressed similar concerns.

Obama said he did not support NAFTA.

"I was opposed to NAFTA because I thought that it didn’t have the labor and environmental standards and the safety standards that would look out for US workers," replied Obama.

Clinton’s husband oversaw passage of NAFTA but today she called for parts of it to be renegotiated.

"I spoke out against it starting in 1992 -- the president made a different decision," Clinton said. "I think now with 14 years of experience under our belt, we can see that in some parts of our country there have been, perhaps, some economic advantages, but in other parts of our country, like where we are right here in northwest Indiana, it hasn't worked as it was promised, and therefore I think we need to renegotiate it," she told an Indiana audience today.

Obama also spoke about the Patriot Act, which he voted to re-authorize.

The Patriot Act is not the problem, he said. A series of executive orders is what has really eroded civil liberties.

"Most of the problem that we have had in civil liberties were not done in the Patriot Act they were done in executive order by George W. Bush...I will reverse them with the stroke of a pen," he said, listing the establishment of Guantanamo Bay, warrantless wiretaps and the suspension of Habeas Corpus.

Other parts of the law were valid, he said.

"There were some provisions in the Patriot Act that did address changes that needed to take place," said Obama, citing as an example a clause that now allows the government to tap cellular phones.

His work he said, kept many of the worst portions of the law from being re-enacted.

"We instituted a series of amendments that changed some of the worst excesses of the previous law," he said.

ItsTime
04-01-2008, 10:39 AM
typical answer from a dem. Answer #1 They fooled me or Answer #2 I dont know

newyearsrevolution08
04-01-2008, 10:41 AM
obama would be a wasted vote.

When was socialism a good thing? Why are people voting FOR democrats who will be bringing this bullshit JUST so they can end ONE war????

The dems will bring on NEW wars just as quick as mccain.......

CountryboyRonPaul
04-01-2008, 10:47 AM
Anybody who's switching to Obama from Ron Paul obviously doesn't "get it" yet. Or to McCain or Clinton for that matter (is there anybody actually switching to Clinton?)

I suspect a lot were dems to begin with who were impressed by Paul's consistant anti-war record. Oh well, it was nice having ya, please remember Paul's message 4 years from now when the Fed. Govt. has increased it's size even more.

Kraig
04-01-2008, 10:52 AM
What Obama failed to address there was that, despite the beliefs of whatever conspiracy theorists, the "highway being built in Texas" is in and of itself enough to warrant my full opposition to the TTC project and anyone who as allied themselves with it.

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 10:56 AM
typical answer from a dem. Answer #1 They fooled me or Answer #2 I dont know

And number three is "I misspoke", which is what he'll be saying when the YouTube of him at the CFR comes out.

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 11:05 AM
A dupe or a lackey ( in power ) still votes to support and implement the NWO agenda.<IMHO>

Fox McCloud
04-01-2008, 11:14 AM
actually, the CFR being behind one world government has been something talked about LONG before the Internet even existed (need I say John Birch Society?) One can completely ignore the SPP super-highway, and still arrive at the conclusion that the CFR is for (and striving) for a one world government.

Obama is a lot dumber than I thought.

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 11:18 AM
Or Obama is playing a lot dumber than you thought he would.

CountryboyRonPaul
04-01-2008, 11:20 AM
Or he just thinks Americans are dumb enough to take his word for it.

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 11:23 AM
Or he just thinks Americans are dumb enough to take his word for it.

Ding! And, unfortunately, he's probably right. Especially since most Americans are too dumb to think they need to know what the CFR is...

ItsTime
04-01-2008, 11:25 AM
and most are


Or he just thinks Americans are dumb enough to take his word for it.

moostraks
04-01-2008, 12:05 PM
Most people I know are so busy trying to keep their head above water they don't have the time to trace the evil that exists at the federal level. Meanwhile the media paints anyone who disagrees with federal control,or programs, or organizations as a freak conspiracy theorist. Defame a person's character and they won't listen to a word you say. Been there done that and got several t-shirts for it....

LEK
04-01-2008, 12:05 PM
Or Obama is playing a lot dumber than you thought he would.

It's calling lying.

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 12:17 PM
Most people I know are so busy trying to keep their head above water they don't have the time to trace the evil that exists at the federal level. Meanwhile the media paints anyone who disagrees with federal control,or programs, or organizations as a freak conspiracy theorist. Defame a person's character and they won't listen to a word you say. Been there done that and got several t-shirts for it....

Well, if they won't listen when you tell them where the undertow is, you can either throw them a rope and make an ally or let them drown. It all depends on if you can get the rope to them, doesn't it?

I know it's tempting to let them drown, but we do need allies.

moostraks
04-01-2008, 12:25 PM
Well, if they won't listen when you tell them where the undertow is, you can either throw them a rope and make an ally or let them drown. It all depends on if you can get the rope to them, doesn't it?

I know it's tempting to let them drown, but we do need allies.

I always try to get the message across. Looking like a nutcase seems to be my specialty lately..:D

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 12:39 PM
I always try to get the message across. Looking like a nutcase seems to be my specialty lately..:D

Here's to the dark days before we become those guys who are crazy like a fox.

robskicks
04-01-2008, 12:44 PM
i thought even the cfr admitted it was pro globalization

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 12:50 PM
i thought even the cfr admitted it was pro globalization

It goes far beyond that.<IMHO>

http://www.constitution.org/col/cuddy_nwo.htm

Allen72289
04-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Or he just thinks Americans are dumb enough to take his word for it.

Bingo.

And most are

Paulitician
04-01-2008, 01:01 PM
i thought even the cfr admitted it was pro globalization
Globalization and one world government aren't the same thing. Ron Paul is for globalization, so long as it's absolultely voluntary trade and corporations or whatever don't get special deals and favors (which is exactly what some, though not all, schemes of "globalization" are today).

It should be obvious to any politician, especially one who's running for president, that the CFR holds a lot of power and propagandistic influence. He may not be an acutal memember of the CFR, but many his advisors and his wife are. For all practical purposes, Obama does belong to the CFR and thus futher undermines the sovereignty of the US and its citizens.

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 01:20 PM
Globalization and one world government aren't the same thing. Ron Paul is for globalization, so long as it's absolultely voluntary trade and corporations or whatever don't get special deals and favors (which is exactly what some, though not all, schemes of "globalization" are today).

It should be obvious to any politician, especially one who's running for president, that the CFR holds a lot of power and propagandistic influence. He may not be an acutal memember of the CFR, but many his advisors and his wife are. For all practical purposes, Obama does belong to the CFR and thus futher undermines the sovereignty of the US and its citizens.

Globalization = NWO implementation strategy and tacic of TPTB.<IMHO>

NAU/illegal immigration/EU/UN/Fed/income tax/9-11/MSM consolidation/human caused global warmin/dumbing down America/war on the US middle class/dollar destruction/etc. are all driving to the same NWO end.

CurtisLow
04-01-2008, 01:28 PM
Obama: There is no official membership.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6539/nelsonhahaoz6.gif
How would he know..BS

Kade
04-01-2008, 01:29 PM
He is not a member of CFR. I've said this for 6 months now.

Why are some of you continuing to push this crap?

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 01:41 PM
He is not a member of CFR. I've said this for 6 months now.

Why are some of you continuing to push this crap?
And you believe what politicians say because ........ ? Watch what they DO.

Dr.3D
04-01-2008, 02:06 PM
Why didn't he answer the question? Saying "I don't carry a CFR card." doesn't mean a thing.
I am a member of a few organizations I don't carry a membership card for.
If he were not a member, he should have just said 'I am not a member of the CFR.", not a load of dung about secret handshakes and not carrying a card.

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 02:09 PM
He is not a member of CFR. I've said this for 6 months now.

Why are some of you continuing to push this crap?

So, when Mrs. Wallace was governor of Alabama, that means George wasn't, right? In fact vs. de facto, whatever...

Malakai0
04-01-2008, 02:11 PM
Or he just thinks Americans are dumb enough to take his word for it.

ding ding


he would be right (for the majority)

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 02:19 PM
So, when Mrs. Wallace was governor of Alabama, that means George wasn't, right? In fact vs. de facto, whatever...
Interesting perhaps obvious applicable implications there for the Clintons.<IMHO>

Catatonic
04-01-2008, 02:21 PM
This is why this will be a long drawn out process. So many people are brainwashed, one of the first steps is going to have to be education.

The more quick witted of our society have already chosen a side, we have to be patient with the rest while at the same time moving things along as quickly as possible.

JMHO

acptulsa
04-01-2008, 02:22 PM
Interesting perhaps obvious applicable implications there for the Clintons.<IMHO>

Maybe, though Hillary is no Mrs. Wallace (probably should have said that vice versa). I was actually referring to Mrs. Michelle Obama's CFR status, though.

Truth Warrior
04-01-2008, 02:24 PM
Maybe, though Hillary is no Mrs. Wallace (probably should have said that vice versa). I was actually referring to Mrs. Michelle Obama's CFR status, though.

"Got it". ;)

Thanks! :)

constituent
04-01-2008, 04:23 PM
eeeeverybody knows the handshake.

Signzit
04-01-2008, 04:37 PM
He is not a member of CFR. I've said this for 6 months now.

Why are some of you continuing to push this crap?

I thought his wife was president of the CFR Chicago chapter.

Catatonic
04-01-2008, 04:45 PM
I thought his wife was president of the CFR Chicago chapter.

She is, but Barak himself isn't a member unless I'm mistaken. That doesn't mean he doesn't pal around with them, and he definatly attends some of their meetings.

Roxi
04-01-2008, 04:53 PM
eeeeverybody knows the handshake.

LMFAO

Geronimo
04-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Between his affiliation with Chicago University (which was created by the Rothchilds) and the CFR. He's nothing short of a criminal.

It's long been said that there are 13 bloodlines that rule this world. The media's recent talk of Obama being related to Cheney (etc) is the media's way of taking that fact and rubbing it in the faces of the people who know.

Bottom line is that Obama doesn't need to carry a card or know a secret handshake.

He's in. It's in his blood.

LEK
04-01-2008, 05:49 PM
i thought even the cfr admitted it was pro globalization

Very openly admitted.
And anti-national sovereignty.


"A New World Order".

"In October 1995, approximately 180 of the world's leaders gathered in New York City to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the United Nations. President Clinton held an informal summit with Russian president Boris Yeltsin and Chinese president Jiang Zemon. Cuban dictator Fidel Castro was invited to a closed door session at the headquarters of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a powerful international group dedicated to the eradication of national sovereignty and the establishment of a global government."

"Indeed, as the 20th century came to a close, there were many forces at work to establish a one-world government, including such international organizations as NAFTA, APEC, the WTO , the European Union, and, of course, the UN, with its plans for national disarmament and the establishment of a world army."

Corydoras
04-01-2008, 06:03 PM
Obama: There is no official membership.


http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/

The Council on Foreign Relations is a national membership organization.

:rolleyes:

Geronimo
04-01-2008, 06:37 PM
The CFR is the American branch of the Illuminati.