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Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 05:32 PM
Oceanside police defend shooting probe

A woman and her son were shot in an incident involving an off-duty San Diego police officer.

By Tony Perry, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 28, 2008

OCEANSIDE, CALIF. -- The Oceanside Police Department on Thursday defended its investigation into an incident in which an off-duty San Diego police officer shot a woman and her 8-year-old son after a traffic altercation.

Oceanside Police Capt. Tom Aguigui said investigators are still trying to figure out what led Officer Frank White to fire five shots at Oceanside resident Rachel Silva's car in a mall parking lot.

White was not arrested or tested for drugs or alcohol. But he was questioned after the shooting, which occurred about 9:15 p.m. on March 15.

A supervisor from the San Diego Police Department, a lawyer provided by the Police Officers Assn. and a "peer support" representative from the department were with White during the questioning.

White has been put on paid administrative leave.

White's wife, a Carlsbad police dispatcher, was with him in the car when the shooting occurred, and has been interviewed by police.

Silva, 27, has refused to be interviewed by police.

After she was treated at a hospital for her wounds, police required her to take a blood test. The results have not been released.

Silva was driving on a suspended license and had two drunk-driving convictions, according to court records. Aguigui said police had probable cause to order Silva's blood drawn, but none to make a similar decision involving White. He said San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne was briefed about the incident as a courtesy to a fellow police department, but no similar briefing has been given to Silva's attorneys.

On the night of March 15, both White and Silva called 911 for help.

Aguigui would not describe the traffic incident or say whether White believed that his life was in danger.

Silva was struck twice in the arm; her son, Johnny, was struck once in the leg. Silva's ex-husband, a Marine serving in Iraq, has been given emergency leave to be with his son.

Aguigui said four bullet holes were found in the windshield of Silva's car and one in the front passenger's window. The driver's window of White's vehicle was shattered.

But Aguigui declined to describe the relative location of the two cars when the shooting occurred.

He said he could not estimate when the case would be taken to the district attorney for a decision on what, if any, charges would be filed.

Silva, who is being represented by civil rights attorney Eugene Iredale, filed a claim Wednesday with the city of San Diego for unspecified damages. The claim alleges that White, 28, who has been an officer for two years, is "manifestly unsuited" for his job and that Oceanside police are showing favoritism toward a fellow officer.

The claim also asserts that the San Diego department has been negligent in not testing its officers periodically to discover "rage tendencies."

"It seems to me the temperament shown -- the rage -- is the kind we do not want in a police officer allowed to carry a firearm," Iredale said.

Lansdowne, in a telephone interview, said that all officer candidates are given a thorough psychological screening before being hired.

He said that the department has psychological services available for officers and that they can either ask for help or be referred by their supervisors.

"We have a very good system," he said.

If her claim is rejected, Silva will be able to file a lawsuit.

At the sometimes combative Oceanside news conference Thursday, Aguigui denied suggestions of favoritism toward White.

"We are doing our best to do a very fair and complete investigation," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-oceanside28mar28,1,6451390.story

Robert Jenkins
03-28-2008, 05:55 PM
http://www.infowars.com/?p=1121

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — An Orange County sheriff’s deputy on Thursday shocked an 11-year-old girl with a Taser gun at an elementary school after the girl punched her in the face, authorities said.

The altercation happened during announcements at Moss Park Elementary School, located at 9301 N. Shore Golf Club Blvd. in Orlando, Orange County school officials said.

According to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, the girl, identified as Thaliamar Jiminez by Local 6 News, pushed another student into oncoming traffic, and the student who was pushed reported the incident to a teacher.

Robert Jenkins
03-28-2008, 06:03 PM
Why are so many cops such worthless punks?

1) Many cops are individuals without the talent or ability to achieve true leadership positions. Yet, they still want to rule over others. So how does an untalented misfit get to boss other people around? Become a cop and taser people. (Some of the less violent, but equally untalented misfits become bureaucrats.)

2) Many cops are cowards who are afraid of their own shadows. Say "boo" to a cop, and the silly coward will honestly believe that his (or sadly, her) life is threatened, and will overreact.

Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 06:10 PM
RJ wrote:


Why are so many cops such worthless punks?

Bunker mentality.

To your average cop there are only three types of people in the world:

Cops,

Cops families,

Scumbags.

Robert Jenkins
03-28-2008, 06:28 PM
AF,

Maybe about a year or so ago, there was an incident in north or north central MO. Some cop tailed a couple of guys to their driveway. One of the guys accidentally put the car in reverse or let it start rolling backward. The stupid fool cop started shooting and killed both guys.

I'll have to do some research and find the story. But that cop is a guy who needs killing. If one of those two guys had been my son, I can guarantee you, that cop would be dead.

Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 07:32 PM
That kind of post will get you banned in about 2.1 seconds.

Robert Jenkins
03-28-2008, 07:36 PM
Whatever.

If cops knew there were consequences for murdering innocent people, maybe their behavior would change.

And personally, any real man would avenge the murder of a family member by a government thug.

AF, if you are going to take that attitude, then lose the William Wallace/Mel Gibson avatar.

Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 07:37 PM
Just a word to the wise friend, nothing more or less.

Cowlesy
03-28-2008, 07:50 PM
AF,

Maybe about a year or so ago, there was an incident in north or north central MO. Some cop tailed a couple of guys to their driveway. One of the guys accidentally put the car in reverse or let it start rolling backward. The stupid fool cop started shooting and killed both guys.

I'll have to do some research and find the story. But that cop is a guy who needs killing. If one of those two guys had been my son, I can guarantee you, that cop would be dead.

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Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 07:56 PM
OK, 5.3 seconds.

That had cop/troll/fed written all over it.

Mach
03-28-2008, 10:49 PM
Entrapment101

Anti Federalist
03-28-2008, 10:57 PM
Entrapment101

Sticks out like a turd in a punch bowl.