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Dave Wood
08-19-2007, 06:40 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8333817835596858456&q=ron+paul&total=333&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=3

Geronimo
08-19-2007, 06:42 PM
Thank you!!

Someone misspelled Nashua ..it was actually in Hollis.

Scribbler de Stebbing
08-19-2007, 06:43 PM
Slobber, slurp, pant, pant. We've been waiting ALL DAY! (Thank you, thank you, thank you!)

BLS
08-19-2007, 06:45 PM
Thank you!!

devil21
08-19-2007, 06:53 PM
Good speech but I think Dr. Paul should switch it up a little. Seems to be the same speech over and over and I dont know if starting off so quickly on the abortion issue is a wise choice. Just my thoughts.

0zzy
08-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Loud! :O

Ron Paul Fan
08-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Good speech and I won't criticize Dr. Paul at all for supposedly using the same speech over and over. The message of freedom, peace, and prosperity brought all of us into the campaign and rose 2.4 million dollars last quarter so it must be effective of bringing in people. Believe it or not, but a lot of people haven't heard Dr. Paul's message or any of his speeches yet so if he wants to focus on similar things in each speech, I will support him. The abortion issue is one that is important with Republican conservatives and I applaud Dr. Paul for starting with it. He doesn't tell me how to run my life, and I won't tell him how to run his. I congratulate Dr. Paul on his effective speech and another straw poll victory.

devil21
08-19-2007, 07:19 PM
You make a very good point about how many havent heard it before and that is very true. Those of us who have followed Dr. Paul are used to the same speech I guess.
My point on the abortion part was that it can also polarize a potential voter/supporter right off the bat that hasnt heard his message and might not even wait for the rest of it. Start with something that EVERYONE (realistically) can agree on and then move into "riskier" waters after you have captured their attention. I think we all accept that its rare to have any one candidate that everyone will agree with every view. Its just not realistic in this day and age so starting on such a controversial topic is ballsy, yes, but its also dangerous.

inibo
08-19-2007, 07:29 PM
1913 was a bad year. We need to repeal that entire year.

I suspect most of us get it, but just in case:



Feb 3 The 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is ratified authorizing the Federal government to impose and collect income tax.

Mar 4 Woodrow Wilson succeeds William Howard Taft as the 28th President of the United States.

Apr 8 Passing of the Seventeenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, dictating the direct election of senators.

Dec 23 The Federal Reserve is created by Woodrow Wilson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1913

Ron Paul Fan
08-19-2007, 07:30 PM
"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." -Jack Nicholson in The Departed

That quote sums up my thoughts on this issue. I don't want Dr. Paul to conform to my message, I want to conform to his. So I trust his judgement when he wants to start off with the issue of abortion at a GOP straw poll. What should he start off with at a GOP straw poll that Republicans will agree with? The Iraq war? I think Dr. Paul should stick to his message and do things the way he wants to do them. It's been working pretty effective so far and we don't know if people will catch on until they've actually heard the message. I'm sorry that you disagree, but am happy that you have acknowledged that I make a good point. I only wish I could say the same.

rajibo
08-19-2007, 07:51 PM
Repeal 1913!

:D

RevolutionSD
08-19-2007, 07:52 PM
I love "Repeal 1913" but leading off with the pro-life abortion stuff is a bad idea.

Whatever your view on abortion is, it's completely a minor issue in the face of the war, the federal reserve, and the income tax.

In addition, it shouldn't matter what our president's view on abortion is himself. Who cares? It's the law that matters. Ron Paul wants to leave it up to the states, and he should stick with that theme instead of preaching his opinion about unborn babies.

Abortion should be way down on the list in terms of what he is addressing at this point. Ron Paul supporters do not universally agree on this anyway, as you can tell from the tepid applause he got on this part of his speech.

Revolution9
08-19-2007, 08:08 PM
I have been having trouble getting audio from Dr Pauls clips at youtube. They come with the sound truned down to 0 and turning the volume up does nothing. All og the Ron Paul 2008 videos have no sound, but the Colbert Roast of Bush and various non RP related stuff has sound and the player sound slider responds to changing the volume.. I am safari/OS X on a MacIntel laptop.. Anybody else notice this?

Best
Randy

michaelwise
08-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Just paraphrasing some of the major points of the speech.

"We have become a country dedicated to welfare-ism and warfare-ism. 1913 was a bad year, we need to repeal that entire year, the income tax, the Federal Reserve system, that funny money system that crates big government as well. We need to get rid of the foreign policy of Woodrow Wilson, and bring our troops home so that we can protect our borders. The Constitution is American and it's Republican."

I thought RP emphasizes some very important points in this speech. He also makes reference to printing up money for this bankruptcy, which is what he was talking about during the Kudlow interview, and because of it we are going to face a major economic crisis. Ron Paul sees this crisis happening now, which is why he wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve so bad. If you understood the true insidious nature of the Federal Reserve as he and I do, you would seize our current economic crisis to push to get rid of it.

Nash
08-19-2007, 08:48 PM
I love "Repeal 1913" but leading off with the pro-life abortion stuff is a bad idea.

Whatever your view on abortion is, it's completely a minor issue in the face of the war, the federal reserve, and the income tax.

In addition, it shouldn't matter what our president's view on abortion is himself. Who cares? It's the law that matters. Ron Paul wants to leave it up to the states, and he should stick with that theme instead of preaching his opinion about unborn babies.

Abortion should be way down on the list in terms of what he is addressing at this point. Ron Paul supporters do not universally agree on this anyway, as you can tell from the tepid applause he got on this part of his speech.

He continues to hit the abortion issue because he must get votes from the former Buchanan/Keyes supporters that are currently in love with Tancredo/Brownback/Huckabee.

The abortion rhetoric is tactical. It is designed to influence the moral right voters. He needs to get their support if he expects to win running as a Republican.

People who are voting for him because he's against the war and the IRS are already in his corner.

devil21
08-19-2007, 08:52 PM
"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me." -Jack Nicholson in The Departed

That quote sums up my thoughts on this issue. I don't want Dr. Paul to conform to my message, I want to conform to his. So I trust his judgement when he wants to start off with the issue of abortion at a GOP straw poll. What should he start off with at a GOP straw poll that Republicans will agree with? The Iraq war? I think Dr. Paul should stick to his message and do things the way he wants to do them. It's been working pretty effective so far and we don't know if people will catch on until they've actually heard the message. I'm sorry that you disagree, but am happy that you have acknowledged that I make a good point. I only wish I could say the same.

Thats a shame since he is no longer trying to get your attention. He already has it, right? Its the common person that Im referring to that has not heard of Dr. Paul and these speeches might be the first time they are exposed to his views. Ive seen it with my own eyes! I gave a close female friend of mine a link to Dr. Paul's Iowa speech. You know what she said? "I turned it off after he said he was pro-life so I didnt get very far. Ill never vote for him because of that. Hillary is getting my vote." This is the type of person that signifies what most voters actually are. They are one issue voters and for many, esp. female, it is the abortion issue. Yes, we know its a minor issue in the grand scheme but THEY dont necessary think that. Say what you will but Ive seen how his starting with abortion right off the bat turns people off.

Nash
08-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Thats a shame since he is no longer trying to get your attention. He already has it, right? Its the common person that Im referring to that has not heard of Dr. Paul and these speeches might be the first time they are exposed to his views. Ive seen it with my own eyes! I gave a close female friend of mine a link to Dr. Paul's Iowa speech. You know what she said? "I turned it off after he said he was pro-life so I didnt get very far. Ill never vote for him because of that. Hillary is getting my vote." This is the type of person that signifies what most voters actually are. They are one issue voters and for many, esp. female, it is the abortion issue. Yes, we know its a minor issue in the grand scheme but THEY dont necessary think that. Say what you will but Ive seen how his starting with abortion right off the bat turns people off.

My opinion is that anyone who is going to vote for Hillary over the abortion issue isn't going to vote for Ron Paul anyway. Hilary is pro war, pro patriot act and pro socialism.

The Iowa speech was targeted at conservative republican voters. I'm not sure why you would direct someone who had never heard of him to that particular speech, especially if you knew they were leaning towards democrats.

Maybe give them one of the anti-war videos. Perhaps that would resonate better? Like I said though if they are considering Hilary then apparently getting out of Iraq isn't a priority for them.

Ron Paul Fan
08-19-2007, 09:07 PM
Thats a shame since he is no longer trying to get your attention. He already has it, right? Its the common person that Im referring to that has not heard of Dr. Paul and these speeches might be the first time they are exposed to his views. Ive seen it with my own eyes! I gave a close female friend of mine a link to Dr. Paul's Iowa speech. You know what she said? "I turned it off after he said he was pro-life so I didnt get very far. Ill never vote for him because of that. Hillary is getting my vote." This is the type of person that signifies what most voters actually are. They are one issue voters and for many, esp. female, it is the abortion issue. Yes, we know its a minor issue in the grand scheme but THEY dont necessary think that. Say what you will but Ive seen how his starting with abortion right off the bat turns people off.

The real shame here is that people are trying to change what Ron Paul says and when he says things. He's pro life and is appealing to a pro life base. Get with the program! He's not going to change his view to pro choice because some female friend of yours thinks otherwise and is dumb enough to vote for Hillary. If you say it's a big issue among people, then Dr. Paul is correct in starting off with it when talking to a conservative base who is mostly pro life. I support his decision and I hope he continues it in the future. Ron Paul is a medical doctor who has delivered over 4,000 babies so he knows what he's talking about. I think you're forgetting that you can't protect liberty until you protect life.

jj111
08-19-2007, 09:09 PM
Forward the link to this clip only to conservatives and Republicans, or other supporters of Ron Paul.

For your liberal undecideds, send them another clip.

Very few liberal undecideds will ever see this clip unless somebody emails it to them.

devil21
08-19-2007, 09:20 PM
My opinion is that anyone who is going to vote for Hillary over the abortion issue isn't going to vote for Ron Paul anyway. Hilary is pro war, pro patriot act and pro socialism.

The Iowa speech was targeted at conservative republican voters. I'm not sure why you would direct someone who had never heard of him to that particular speech, especially if you knew they were leaning towards democrats.

Maybe give them one of the anti-war videos. Perhaps that would resonate better? Like I said though if they are considering Hilary then apparently getting out of Iraq isn't a priority for them.

Actually, she a typically "uninformed" voter that doesnt lean toward any particular candidate (other than the Hillary thing just because shes female and pro-choice) nor party affiliation and we have similar views so I thought there was some hope there. Regardless, my point is that we try to bring people over to Dr. Paul's overall way of thinking and its tough for some (many?) people to get past the abortion issue, so why put it as basically the first thing he speaks about? Its hard to convert people when they cant even get past the first issue in his recent speeches before shutting it off. I just think its a too divisive issue to start on and Ive seen why. As Dr. Paul comes to the forefront of the race it will turn off a lot of people before they even hear the rest of what he has to say. That's all....Im not trying to insult the good Dr. or say his speeches suck. Maybe change it a little to focus on the Constitutional abortion issue since that is his true platform anyway?

To RPFan, I dont recall ever suggesting he change to pro-choice so STFU and stop putting words in my mouth. Im actually pro-choice myself but I realize that the president doesnt have a whole lot of say in that matter overall and I agree with every OTHER view Dr. Paul has. If I was the typical uninformed voter that harped on that one issue I wouldnt be supporting him right now based on how he always starts his speeches. He could lose a lot of "non-partisan" support from people who dont care about what party someone is from. We arent all red-or-blue-till-we-die types. You obviously are and that is fine...but theres something to be said for trying to appeal to the rest of us too.

jj111, can you suggest any links for speeches according to what you advised? So far, all of his recent speeches that I have seen start out that same way since they are all Republican party related events.

Patrick Henry
08-19-2007, 09:28 PM
After the BBQ, the good Dr. gave an interview with Bloomberg. He was talking about the plunge protection team and such. I wonder if it will be available anywhere?

Ron Paul Fan
08-19-2007, 09:52 PM
To RPFan, I dont recall ever suggesting he change to pro-choice so STFU and stop putting words in my mouth. Im actually pro-choice myself but I realize that the president doesnt have a whole lot of say in that matter overall and I agree with every OTHER view Dr. Paul has. If I was the typical uninformed voter that harped on that one issue I wouldnt be supporting him right now based on how he always starts his speeches. He could lose a lot of "non-partisan" support from people who dont care about what party someone is from. We arent all red-or-blue-till-we-die types. Theres something to be said for trying to appeal to the rest of us too.


Ok, let's all just simmer down now. I respectfully disagree with you, but would never tell you to STFU because we all have different viewpoints and are entitled to them. I don't think it's in our best interest here to start wars. I think we need to educate people that even though Ron Paul is pro life, that he would leave the decision up to the states like the Constitution tells us. Dr. Paul has already successfuly gotten you who is pro choice and me who is pro choice to support him, so it's not impossible to do so. After all, the freedom message brings us together it doesn't divide us. If someone is that narrowminded on one issue and only cares what a candidate's personal view is on abortion, then it might be a lost cause because Dr. Paul is pro life and there's no changing that no matter when he says it in his speech. Educate her on Ron Paul's views on foreign policy, less taxation and less government spending. If she still supports Hillary after that, then she's a socialist democrat and there's really nothing else you can do.

fj45lvr
08-19-2007, 09:53 PM
It disturbs me for some folks to insinuate that Paul is using some position as merely a "political tool" to "ensnare" voters....I don't think you folks understand the man very well if you really believe that....even though Pauls own volumeous writings on these principles are there to understand....it is sickening to actually believe that folks are imparting more importance on policies than human life....Paul gets it, and states it over and over that there is NO LIBERTY without Life.

His message is great to hear especially for those hearing it for the first time...it has to be moving regardless how much those people would like it not to be for whatever reasoning.

DeadheadForPaul
08-19-2007, 09:56 PM
I dont know what it is but links to GOOGLE Video NEVER work for me. They just keep on "loading"

shadowhooch
08-19-2007, 10:08 PM
Taking a strong stance on Pro-Life is smart, tactical move for Ron Paul.

Face it, for the majority of Republican voters, this issue IS a big deal. And this issue is one of the BIGGEST weaknesses of ALL front runners (Mitt, Guiliani, and F Thompson). It is smart not to hide his stance on the matter.

kickzman
08-19-2007, 10:30 PM
Repeal 1913!

:D

I wish Ron Paul supporters would just clap only instead of hollaring and hooting..save that for when the media is there, cuz I think stops normal people from hearing the speech and can be a complete turn off...kinda like someone on a cellphone during a movie at the theatre..:(

fj45lvr
08-20-2007, 01:18 AM
I wish Ron Paul supporters would just clap only instead of hollaring and hooting..save that for when the media is there, cuz I think stops normal people from hearing the speech and can be a complete turn off...kinda like someone on a cellphone during a movie at the theatre..:(

yeah that is kind of a downer.....like my coach used to say "act like you've been there before".....all the enthusiasm is wonderful but when it is "in your face" it is real frustrating because...."act like you've been there before"....you see this from football teams that make a good play and then get back to the huddle and then there is the "show boaters" floppin and dancin all over the place

I see this kind of like a re-occuring theme in alot of the Paul videos...some that particularly stand out was when they walked through the conference center in Iowa screaming and chanting while people were up at the podium speaking (this was the get together that EXCLUDED Dr. Paul)....I also was concerned with the recent video clip and testimony surrounding the Illinois Straw Poll....

Hopefully Paul supporters can realize wisely that they can show their support quite visibly and not have to resort to acting like they haven't been there before and alienating many fellow Republicans by their immature behavior (I guess maybe a large part of the problem is that they actually HAVEN'T been there before and are under the impression somehow that the IN YOUR FACE yelling and etc. is going to somehow earn something more than the IDEAS and WORDS behind their candidate....It's a sad day when our political process comes down to who chants louder or waves signs more fervently or has the better looking candidate or candidates wife, etc. and etc. I guess unfortunately that may incapsulate America though in the MODERN era.

Self control and timing are wonderful things.