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nate895
03-26-2008, 08:58 PM
How about we get together with conservative members of Congress (that would include some we don't necessarily like a whole lot), the Constitution and Libertarian Parties, radio talk show hosts (such as Michael Savage), and other prominent conservative voices to form a new party?

While Michael Savage and Tom Tancredo and others that would have to be invited being an essential element of the revolution is not exactly an easy pill to swallow, it must be done in order to have this country back in order (as an aside, I believe we could convince many of them they are wrong on some issues anyway). One guy switching to being a member of the conservative party in Congress with people from two minor parties meeting to form this party is not going to get us on the front pages of major newspapers, it will land us on page A20, right next to the story about a man who robbed a bank after showing his ID to the teller, if we made it in at all. Many conservatives are disenchanted by the nomination of Senator McCain, and it need only a spark to get them rejecting Senator McCain, the Bush Administration, and the GOP as a whole. When that spark happens, many conservatives will realize where they came from and see what has been done to this country, that they will begin to realize that we should just come home and shrink our government, and live happily ever after. Many conservatives, I believe, are sill fooled into thinking that the measures such as the Patriot Act are merely temporary things that will pass when the "War on Terror" is over.

I think that the GOP's house is one of cards, and need only a little bow from the inside to see it all tumble down, and it must come from within.

brianewart
03-26-2008, 10:32 PM
Interesting, but it would be pointless unless a substantial number of REAL conservatives joined up, including elected officials. Since those politicians may be somewhat risk-averse in this sense, how would a group of Ron Paul Revolutionaries talk them into it?

As a side note, whenever an elected politician changes parties while in office it makes the front page. It doesn't happen very often.

nate895
03-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Interesting, but it would be pointless unless a substantial number of REAL conservatives joined up, including elected officials. Since those politicians may be somewhat risk-averse in this sense, how would a group of Ron Paul Revolutionaries talk them into it?

As a side note, whenever an elected politician changes parties while in office it makes the front page. It doesn't happen very often.

I think we could do it. Since most of us aren't readily identifiable Paul supporters by these people, someone can invite them all to a meeting of conservatives, and they may come (some won't), and we can coax them in there. More then half the work is already done for us, they agree on most issues, minus the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq and the broader "War on Terror," but we could change their minds pretty quickly if it came to it. When people sit and talk about something face to face with someone of the same or similar political persuasion, they can be easily convinced if you are right and they have the proper base. I think people like Savage and Tancredo know something is up, they're just unsure where to turn.

Minestra di pomodoro
03-27-2008, 04:35 AM
This happened in Britain after the failure of the Conservative party, except instead of creating a new party they revived an unpopular one. Naturally, the same old crooks repopulated the new party.

New York For Paul
03-27-2008, 10:08 AM
It might be easier just to take an already existing party from within.

Many of the local county committees are weak. Once you get a number of counties, then the state parties start to tumble.

nate895
03-27-2008, 03:52 PM
This happened in Britain after the failure of the Conservative party, except instead of creating a new party they revived an unpopular one. Naturally, the same old crooks repopulated the new party.

The way you keep those idiots out is you make it by invitation only for current politicians.

nate895
03-27-2008, 03:53 PM
It might be easier just to take an already existing party from within.

Many of the local county committees are weak. Once you get a number of counties, then the state parties start to tumble.

It may be, but we may just control all the committees and such and wind up without winning the actual people's votes.

Nicketas
03-27-2008, 04:07 PM
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bucfish
03-27-2008, 04:13 PM
Make it to the Convention The more we have their with the Media Covering it the bigger statement WE Can make including many wonderful possibilities should McCain get the nomination. Wink Wink

Mass Exodus!

nate895
03-27-2008, 04:17 PM
SOMETIMES, Its easier to change an established brand than to proliferate a new one.

Suggesting the death of the GOP in favor of something else would be like telling all of america that coca cola will no longer be sold, and instead replaced with something new.

Brands, political and commercial, shift in popularity based on public PERCEPTION as to what they offer the individual.

Most people are very resistant to change, they cling to the "familiar", the "trusted official sources" for as long as possible.

Even major corporations have had HUGE blunders and then bounced back in the public eye.

Its best to think more in business terms than political ideals....

They tried not selling Coke, and replacing it with something (the New Coke fiasco). The difference is that we are saying that they have repackaged liberalism, called it Republican and conservative, and we don't like it that much. I am all in favor of trying to work within the GOP, but if it cannot be done, then we must do it on our own.