We arent in iraq for oil? think again

[Give me liberty]

http://judicial-inc.biz/Is_real_Iran_end_game.htm

I found this link in some other forum.

look at oil iraq type map.


and ya there few anti Israel statements.



So to prove to the necons that we are in iraq for oil make sure you link that map image of the oil pipeline.


And who knows maybe they finally get it.

[Mickeys]

No offense, but how on earth do you think that this consitutes proof? No one is suggesting that Iraq doesn't have oil. That silly site does not prove a thing. (And like the 9/11 troofers, that site is NOT something you want to be associated with you or Ron Paul.)

[Rahl]

No offense, but how on earth do you think that this consitutes proof? No one is suggesting that Iraq doesn't have oil. That silly site does not prove a thing. (And like the 9/11 troofers, that site is NOT something you want to be associated with you or Ron Paul.)

whats so terribly wrong with 9/11 truth ?
you don't have to present "this case" like some nutjob.

[smartguy911]

all this crap is starting to give me headache. toooo much information. no wonder Americans don't give a crap about politics.

[humanic]

No offense, but how on earth do you think that this consitutes proof? No one is suggesting that Iraq doesn't have oil. That silly site does not prove a thing.

If you are looking for proof try this instead:

Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil (http://nw0.info/files/eBooks%20and%20Audio%20Books/Michael%20Ruppert%20-%20Crossing%20the%20Rubicon%20-%20Decline%20of%20the%20American%20Empire%20at%20t he%20end%20of%20the%20Age%20of%20Oil%20(2004).pdf)
(right click and "save as")


"like the 9/11 troofers, that site is NOT something you want to be associated with you"

WARNING: This book will take away your motive (ignorance) for making asinine statements like the one above.

[GunnyFreedom]

all this crap is starting to give me headache. toooo much information. no wonder Americans don't give a crap about politics.

You and me both, brother. I'm on the verge of burnout. I keep going though, because I know that saving this nation is more important than just me.

[ronpaulfan]

This is why we're in Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hgR8V_2CoU

[Steve_New_Jersey]

whats so terribly wrong with 9/11 truth ?
you don't have to present "this case" like some nutjob.

Iraq and the truthers are a different topic. One has little to do with the other in reality. People have problems with the truthers exploiting the revolution in order to gain face and thats the real problem. Many truthers used the RP movement to gain momentum instead of focousing on the race at hand. It played a large role in the fall of RP in the race for president. When promoting RP the largets obsticle I faced was trying to convice people that it was not about the truthers and that by supporting RP you are not supporting the truthers just RP and a constitutional government.

For the record Iraq had everything to do with protecting the $. England only got involved to protect the possible investment in the Euro. The second American made it 100% clear that Iraq would do buisness in $$$s they hauled ass home. Oil is part of it but the bottom line comes down to the $. Its the same reason they are pushing us after Iran and Chavez.

[Rahl]

Iraq and the truthers are a different topic. One has little to do with the other in reality. People have problems with the truthers exploiting the revolution in order to gain face and thats the real problem. Many truthers used the RP movement to gain momentum instead of focousing on the race at hand. It played a large role in the fall of RP in the race for president. When promoting RP the largets obsticle I faced was trying to convice people that it was not about the truthers and that by supporting RP you are not supporting the truthers just RP and a constitutional government.

For the record Iraq had everything to do with protecting the $. England only got involved to protect the possible investment in the Euro. The second American made it 100% clear that Iraq would do buisness in $$$s they hauled ass home. Oil is part of it but the bottom line comes down to the $. Its the same reason they are pushing us after Iran and Chavez.

i didn't mean to say i'm a truther, but at some point in the discussion the other side will bring up "but it all changed with 9/11". you don't have to shout that bush and the new world order did it :) that what i meant, you can present your worries with stuff like "why didn't norad function that day, we need a better national defense".

[idiom]

AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.

In his long-awaited memoir, to be published tomorrow, Greenspan, a Republican whose 18-year tenure as head of the US Federal Reserve was widely admired, will also deliver a stinging critique of President George W Bush’s economic policies.

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Greenspan, 81, is understood to believe that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the security of oil supplies in the Middle East.

Britain and America have always insisted the war had nothing to do with oil. Bush said the aim was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction and end Saddam’s support for terrorism.


Even Greenspan gets it. where is the argument?

[harley95]

HERE'S YOUR PROOF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmp4Ller8l4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWiLshk6fSU

Fact: The U.S. wants to pump Iraq oil to Israel, and then ship to U.S.
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/2007/02/18/54/
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=332835
http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/apr/20/israelandthepalestinians.oil

OF OTHER INTEREST:

War Pigs (set to political footage) Support our troops ..BRING EM HOME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRR_n_yQGA

Biker Mentality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2olCKnTVPI

[libertarian4321]

The value of all the oil Iraq has ever produced, and all that it will produce in the next 50 years, wouldn't come close to what we have already spent on the war in Iraq.

If all we wanted was "oil from Iraq", all we had to do was end the sanctions, and saddam would have pumped as much oil as he could and put it on the world market.

[rpfan2008]

If you are looking for proof try this instead:

Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil (http://nw0.info/files/eBooks%20and%20Audio%20Books/Michael%20Ruppert%20-%20Crossing%20the%20Rubicon%20-%20Decline%20of%20the%20American%20Empire%20at%20t he%20end%20of%20the%20Age%20of%20Oil%20(2004).pdf)
(right click and "save as")



WARNING: This book will take away your motive (ignorance) for making asinine statements like the one above.


thank you very much for that book/website
dude

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

http://judicial-inc.biz/Is_real_Iran_end_game.htm

I found this link in some other forum.

look at oil iraq type map.


and ya there few anti Israel statements.



So to prove to the necons that we are in iraq for oil make sure you link that map image of the oil pipeline.


And who knows maybe they finally get it.

Oil is part of it. World conquest is the bigger picture.

[rpfan2008]

The value of all the oil Iraq has ever produced, and all that it will produce in the next 50 years, wouldn't come close to what we have already spent on the war in Iraq.



spent what? printed papers??
besides that 4000 lives, but nobody seems to care about that

[mountaineer]

thank you very much for that book/website
dude

rpfan, that book is probably the best book out there on the subject. Mike Ruppert has done an excellent job documenting the drug running activities of the CIA and the 9/11 cover up.

Check out his 2 DVDs if you get the chance. They are videos of speeches that he has made: The Truth and Lies of 9/11, and Denial Stops Here: From 9/11 to Peak Oil and Beyond.

[Rhys]

everyone knows why we're in Iraq.

The truth is that every American knows about our "secret" empire and choses to silently ignore it. Even most those who preach against it, enjoy it's comforts and do little to challenge it. It is up to us.

[acptulsa]

everyone knows why we're in Iraq.

The truth is that every American knows about our "secret" empire and choses to silently ignore it. Even most those who preach against it, enjoy it's comforts and do little to challenge it. It is up to us.

Truth. These people you call 'sheeple' are largely just happy to be on the 'winning team'. As long as they benefit and feel themselves to be wrapped in the all-powerful Stars and Stripes they're liable to turn a willingly blind eye to anything.

The things we're failing to do are wake up the decency of the decent ones and show all of them the long-term futility of our actions. If they can be made to see that they aren't doing their grandchildren favors, we have them.

[justatrey]

I thought a big part of it was forcing Iraq to sell oil in US dollars only, to avoid a collapse of the dollar.

Much of the world accepts our worthless dollars because its the only way they can buy oil.
Prior to invasion Iraq was accepting other currencies - shortly after invasion it was back to US dollars only. Recently Iran began taking currencies other than the dollar also...

[acptulsa]

I thought a big part of it was forcing Iraq to sell oil in US dollars only, to avoid a collapse of the dollar.

Much of the world accepts our worthless dollars because its the only way they can buy oil.
Prior to invasion Iraq was accepting other currencies - shortly after invasion it was back to US dollars only. Recently Iran began taking currencies other than the dollar also...

See, that's what I like about this board. People here pay attention and look to the heart of things. Great forum!

Yes, justatrey, there's a reason North Korea is the neglected (even spoiled) arm of the Axis of Evil. No oil. Good call.

[justatrey]

This is why we're in Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hgR8V_2CoU

^^^Great video! ^^^

Sums it up really well. The war in Iraq (and likely Iran) seem to be about the dollar and making sure it is the only currency used to purchase oil.

[David_Huxley007]

hahahah that website has the music thats played on "Air Arabia" before the flight takes off rofllamayo
sorry guys i've flown all over the middle-east

[banjojambo9]

all this crap is starting to give me headache. toooo much information. no wonder Americans don't give a crap about politics.

probably cause your head is full of crap