anyone have experiance with this recoil compensator?

[rpfreedom08]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/AKConcepts_7.62x39_AK_Recoil_Compensator.html

small video on it working...
http://dealervids.com/AIM/J-Tac47.wmv

Guess I'll let yall know how it goes, I just went ahead and ordered it.

edit: reason I got it was last time I shot my ak the recoil wasn't much but it was enough to jump off target considerably witch I don't like very much. This coupled with my kobra red dot sight should make for some pretty quick and continued target acquisition.

[Sharpstick]

Most often comps don't help with muzzle flash. Training can overcome much of the recoil of th weapon and make you a faster shot. No amount of training can prevent your eyes from loosing there night vision due to the bright muzzle flash, I personally would look for a Flash hider of some sort.

Just my $4.00 adjusted for the damaged dollar.

[Doktor_Jeep]

One thing that gets overlooked often for compensators is that they are best matched to ammunition.

This is more of an issue with competiton race guns where the ammo load and the compensator are professionally, and very scientificallyl, tuned.

This can be the case with surplus or military guns. Like the spoiler on a car, it requires certain velocity or pressure to function.

Indeed comps do not cut down on flash. But there is another issue as well. In the daytime, a comp might kick up a cloud of dust around the shooter.

[rpfreedom08]

Most often comps don't help with muzzle flash. Training can overcome much of the recoil of th weapon and make you a faster shot. No amount of training can prevent your eyes from loosing there night vision due to the bright muzzle flash, I personally would look for a Flash hider of some sort.

Just my $4.00 adjusted for the damaged dollar.

Good point, maybe I'll get a flash supressor for at night and a compensator for durring the day?

[rpfreedom08]

One thing that gets overlooked often for compensators is that they are best matched to ammunition.

This is more of an issue with competiton race guns where the ammo load and the compensator are professionally, and very scientificallyl, tuned.

This can be the case with surplus or military guns. Like the spoiler on a car, it requires certain velocity or pressure to function.

Indeed comps do not cut down on flash. But there is another issue as well. In the daytime, a comp might kick up a cloud of dust around the shooter.

I see what your saying however most of the ak ammo out there is very close to each other gr. wise. I believe it's either 122, 123 or 124. Or are you talking about something else?

[Sharpstick]

Good point, maybe I'll get a flash supressor for at night and a compensator for durring the day?

The switching of the muzzle component is not what o would recommend, it requires tools as well as stopping to change the device. I would just get a good suitable flash hider and work on my personal skills to overcome the recoil of the weapon, Are you using the modern combat stance?

[rpfreedom08]

probably not. I'm just leaning forward a bit with my left leg extended some. Any recomendations? Thanks for the help, maybe one day I'll have a group that trains together down here in louisiana :)

[Sharpstick]

probably not. I'm just leaning forward a bit with my left leg extended some. Any recomendations? Thanks for the help, maybe one day I'll have a group that trains together down here in louisiana :)

The UFP, Universal Fighting positions is the method of every good instructor I have had the pleasure of learning from. Here Is a post I made to help some others out.


The combat rifle stance/Universal Fighting position, is the preferred combat stance and is Superior to the Target stance in most every way. This stance takes some time to get used to if you have been using the target stance as most have, but I urge you to persevere and adopt this stance. Often you will need to adapt this stance to suit your needs based on your cover and concealment, but the key elements remain basically unchanged.

Why is this a Superior stance? Simple..... Mobility! To remain stationary is to be out maneuvered and DIE! The UFP offers great mobility because the body is square to the target, you have the ability to move forward, in revers, or side to side while putting rounds on target. The target stance places the body at an angle, this greatly hiders mobility when compared to the UFP forcing the shooter to do the crab walk or shooter shuffle. When movement is added to targeting the body tends to do a few things based on body position. Every step has a peak and a valley, as you step forward moving your weight from one foot to the other your upper body rises and falls, the idea is to remove as much of this movement as possible to aid in delivering accurate fire on the target while moving. The natural stride of the human body is to be square and walk one foot in front of the other, so we want to capitalize on this. The target stance adds a bunch of unnatural movement to the body that reduces the ability to put rounds on target while moving. The recoil of the weapon is more controllable from the UFP, because the body is square the recoil pushes strait back and allows you to reacquire the target quicker. The target stance on the other hand pushes the muzzle up and toward the direction of the shooting side. To demonstrate this simply have someone push on your shoulder while square to them and then have them push on your shoulder when you body is angled as it would be from the target stance. The body being square despite some other opinions dose not present a more vulnerable target, it dose present a slightly larger target but when you add movement you are much MUCH harder to hit. As well the target stance present a body position that allows one shot to hit near every vital organ (When shooting a deer you shoot through the side trying to hit both lungs and the heart) The UFP presents each organ as an individual unit. When using body armor there are some benefits to being square as well, but it is only a benefit of using this stance and not the reason we use this stance. The Arms stay tucked in front of the body, this aids in making you a smaller target as well as offers some shield for incoming fire. The arms have the potential to stop or deflect a bullet before it reaches a organ, A gun shot of any sort sucks! but one to the chest kills and quick. The legs remain bent at the knees further reducing the peaks and valleys that come with the human stride, as well walking one foot in front of the other reduces side to side movement of the upper body aiding in targeting while on the move. The head remains in the upright position as situational awareness is as key to surviving a gun fight as is movement, have it or die. When the head is upright the peripheral vision of the shooter is greatly enhanced, with the Target stance one eyes peripheral vision is limited and the others dose not have the side movement it would have if the head was erect. Where the head goes the body will fallow.
I have included some pictures so people can see exactly what the stance looks like, I have also included a link to Todd Jarret explaining movement while shooting. In the video please notice that he is using the UFP while shooting a pistol, this is where the universal part comes from. Every top shooter in both competition and the military uses this stance, be it with a pistol or rifle. I URGE you to use this stance unless physical limitation prevents it, after learning it I will pretty much not use anything else.


This is what it looks like
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture323.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture324.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture320.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture321.jpg
Here it is compared to the target stance , sorry not the best angle to show it but you will get the idea

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/patrickhenryshannon339.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/patrickhenryshannon342.jpg

[STRATIOTES]

http://home1.gte.net/res0p1ia/muzzel_brake_front.jpg

[Doktor_Jeep]

I once shot an FAL with that comp on it.

It's shweet!

[rpfreedom08]

The UFP, Universal Fighting positions is the method of every good instructor I have had the pleasure of learning from. Here Is a post I made to help some others out.



This is what it looks like
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture323.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture324.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture320.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/Picture321.jpg
Here it is compared to the target stance , sorry not the best angle to show it but you will get the idea

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/patrickhenryshannon339.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/sharpstickk/patrickhenryshannon342.jpg

Thanks for all the tips. It's going to be a bit weird getting use to that stance but I can see how it is superior. Any other tips :) i need all the help I can get.

ps. what supressor would you think works best?

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Muzzle_De.html

[rpfreedom08]

I once shot an FAL with that comp on it.

It's shweet!

oh yeah? I'm kind of stoked about it myself but damnit now Sharpstick has me thinkin' it's not all that great in a combat situation.

[Gideon]

This one was made to order by a militia machinist, paid for in silver, and is currently mounted on a Browning A-bolt .338 Win Mag.

http://www.libertydollarofsanjose.org/mia_photos/haveaniceday_4.JPG

[Sharpstick]

the ones that they are showing are the best of both worlds

[Doktor_Jeep]

Wonder if there be a pistol version..

[rpfreedom08]

SO where can I order that?

[Doktor_Jeep]

They are only available to Militia.

Ask George Mason to find out if you qualify.

[rpfreedom08]

I would join a malitia in a heart beat if they had one in louisiana. The only two I have seen is one that only does civil war reinactments and one that doesn't do anything. Now to find this George Mason guy (is he a forum member?)

[Doktor_Jeep]

I would join a malitia in a heart beat if they had one in louisiana. The only two I have seen is one that only does civil war reinactments and one that doesn't do anything. Now to find this George Mason guy (is he a forum member?)

I am quite certain that George Mason would be a member here. No doubt he supports Ron Paul.

[Gideon]

I would join a malitia in a heart beat if they had one in louisiana. The only two I have seen is one that only does civil war reinactments and one that doesn't do anything. Now to find this George Mason guy (is he a forum member?)

Check this thread for Louisiana Militia contacts (http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=39;t=000005), and Google the search term: "George Mason militia"