Need help for VA RP Repub! Please!

[pinkmandy]

http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/

Our primary is in 2 months and this guy needs money. He's a neat guy, I've met him. He's a freedom fighter. He's running against Wolf, an incumbent Repub who REALLY needs to lose his seat. At our local repub meeting Vern came and everyone was very open to him. He can win guys! He just needs money to advertise and get his word out there. Please donate what you can and feel free to repost on other RP sites. :D

[liberteebell]

Bump for McKinley!

(I'm so broke, I can't pay attention, otherwise, I'd send $$$$)

[Aratus]

is he a distant relative of this guy? http://www.mckinley.lib.oh.us/ if
the churchmouse poorer relatives of the auld potus NEVER dipped into
TEAPOT DOME public funds or politics since that tragic day more than
100 years ago...then feel you are doin' right by passin' around the hat
for his distant kinsman Vern in parsimous up country scots-irish terms!
http://www.fullbooks.com/Mr-Dooley-s-Philosophy2.html harding was
also from ohio. i am trying to remember how many McKinleys ran for
public office in the 20th century, and i am on a very very very short list...

[Aratus]

Wolf, the 10th districts alpha-male ranking Virgina representative has been
there since 1981, is part of the Reagan Revolution, and raps the People's Republic
of China on the knuckles verbally as in recently in terms of human rights...! if
Vern wins, he is a newbie in terms of ALL the house committees that Wolf is now on!

[pinkmandy]

Sorry, I don't know his family tree. ;)

I do know he's very knowledgeable about central banking and he wants to bring govt back down to the people. I'm pretty certain Rand Paul endorsed him as well.

[Aratus]

269 vs. 269...

vern mckinley wins despite
a democrat year ternd?

[Aratus]

did you know in the 1936, henry cabot lodge jr. was one of the few
republicans to secure a senate seat during the new deal sweeps of fdr?
[url]http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=L000394[/ur

[mrchubbs]

Vern Mckinley deserves our support. I just put in $100.00.... Then again I'm biased... He's running in my district. :-)

Please consider donating to his campaign. We need as many RP friends in Congress as possible. An interesting note about the Mckinley - Ron Paul connection:

Ron Paul cited Vern Mckinley's work in testimony in the House of Representatives back in 1998:
http://financialservices.house.gov/banking/31198pau.htm

I also encourage everyone to read the interview I'm doing with Vern for Liberty Maven. The first part interview is available here:
http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/02/16/vern-mckinley-virginia-congressional-candidate-interview-part-1/903/

I'm still awaiting his response to the 2nd part. He's a busy guy!

Feel free to check out the other interviews with liberty-minded candidates as well:
http://www.libertymaven.com/interviews/

We are open to suggestions for other candidates to interview.

THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS GET THESE PEOPLE IN OFFICE.

Harness your anger, disillusionment, and sadness at RP not getting the GOP nomination and use it in a positive way by getting involved in the campaigns of these candidates.

Ron Paul laid the foundation. It is now time for us to continue the building process.


Enjoy.

[pinkmandy]

Bump!

[Aratus]

Wolf is in a VERY tight race...

[Aratus]

if Wolf ties himself into McCain who has linked himself to Bush... come november... where is Mr. Wolf?

[Kotin]

bump

[Aratus]

http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/

Our primary is in 2 months and this guy needs money. He's a neat guy, I've met him. He's a freedom fighter. He's running against Wolf, an incumbent Repub who REALLY needs to lose his seat. At our local repub meeting Vern came and everyone was very open to him. He can win guys! He just needs money to advertise and get his word out there. Please donate what you can and feel free to repost on other RP sites. :D


pinkmandy has the fervor of a convert, and i thought it would be cool
to be into a sense of history while doing a bump or two of her topic!

[Aratus]

i just might open up a thread about Jim Ogonowski up in the bay state
if i can say anything at all like what pinkmandy just did for this new fellow
who seeks to unseat a long term republican in the 10th district oh so near D.C!!!

[Aratus]

my motives can be more direct. not that i have anything totally
negative against the longterm junior senator with a degree of
seniority that we now have, however, somehow mr. ogonowski, who
had been part of our national guard, wants to get our guys home
with a dignity intact, and quicker than evidently both our 2 dem senators
he also has a short commercial. so enjoy! https://www.jimogonowski.com/
two people here told me he was a neo-con! i thought his direct folksy manner
worth a second look! or two! not getting involved sorta guarantees john kerry
goes to D.C in january!!! i have never voted in either a democratic or
republican primary in my life. i am an independent. so...

does he deserve further merit if only for who his opponent is?
as with pinkmandy's representative wolf, john kerry has a level of
seniority. a political newbie sent to D.C starts from the bottom!
http://www.jimogonowski.com/events/show/30
here is where i could go locally to see him if i so choose...

[Aratus]

http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/

Our primary is in 2 months and this guy needs money. He's a neat guy, I've met him. He's a freedom fighter. He's running against Wolf, an incumbent Repub who REALLY needs to lose his seat. At our local repub meeting Vern came and everyone was very open to him. He can win guys! He just needs money to advertise and get his word out there. Please donate what you can and feel free to repost on other RP sites. :D






i'm sorta impressed by her posting!

[Aratus]

this fall, mcCain is perhaps the head of the ticket... what does this imply for an active republican candidate?

[Aratus]

vern mckinley knows economics...

[pinkmandy]

vern mckinley knows economics...

Yeah, he knows quite a bit about central banking as well.

I've met him. His little boy sat on my lap during our repub meeting when delegates were selected.

Hi Vern! I know you're on here reading and I know you know who I am now. :D

[Aratus]

if Representative Wolf is a wily auld*time politician though not technically a democrat,
and he has now pitched himself to a raft of northern suburbanites, clearly the discomfort
romney was feeling perhaps is sorta like what rep. wolf shall be in if the 10th goes AU-H20!

[Aratus]

rand paul seems to have put in a good word for vern mckinley!

[Aratus]

pinkmandy, i just had the idea in my head that if vern mckinley has a campaign staff,
they might want to do up a cheap papered small little campaign letter and/or email
along the lines of what a local guy did for former governor romney... i bumped the
thread below, i'm sorta proud in a way about the locality and local nature of the story...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1266843#1266843

[Virginia Libertarian]

I live in the 10th and will be voting/donating to Vern. A sign's going up in my yard in a few days :D

[Aratus]

the idea that high and low tariffs might become a political issue this day if the CP makes it so... this year... has now occured to me.

[Aratus]

vern mckinley might also have read up on tariffs, methinks... (BUMP!!!!)

[Aratus]

massachusetts has delegate selecting caucuses on april 5th... taking heart to what
missouri did and is doing, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=129917
people are trying to talk people into going in at the local level and voting for the delegates
for the state and national conventions! i'm kicking myself for not getting me and my winter
cold to the polls last february 5th, right now i could be soon to be at the caucuses had i done so!!! i'm
wondering if more people are unaware of what the party rules are as to each state! here goes!
http://www3.webng.com/ronpaul/become_delegate_VA.html pinkmandy, is Vern
thinkin' about goin' to St.Paul, Minn???? seems he might get people to caucus locally!

[pinkmandy]

I'm not sure, Aratus. Maybe he'll pop on and answer that question for you. I'm pretty sure he keeps up w/the forums here. ;) Thank you for keeping this thread alive! It is much appreciated!!!! :)

[Aratus]

cooooooooooooooooooooooool... earlier today i sorta worried my zest for
posting away happily scared away a fellow baystater who wanted to go
to our local april fifth caucuses, and then to my relief, "wgadget" and "andrewjackson" as
well as a fellow poster got a commitment out of this true blue Ron Paul person to
ACTUALLY have the patience for the delegate selection process. i am kicking
myself. had i voted, our state's rules have LESS qualifiers than virginia! i could
have gone nearby to a local caucus and then voted happily on planking and the like!

[Aratus]

i might have gone a bit over the top when wondering if henry cabot lodge jr.
was alive today, like who he would vote for, and i had the reasons why i thought
alternatively he could be drawn to romney, mccain or ron paul. actually when
being reflective, i feel henry cabot lodge senior might have gotten his grandson to
vote for doctor ron paul were both good gents were alive today an' extremely old!

[Aratus]

between you and me, i think i've added to the name recognition factor
the name "mckinley" has in the populance at large! now if we can namedrop
VERN a tad more than bill or william, who knows? anyway, it was fun doing up a link
to garrett hobart's excited voice on that there wax cylander! i'm in rarified form!

[Aratus]

here's another long ago almost totally
http://www.juntosociety.com/vp/hwilson.html
forgotten republican! he is for a time a whig!
i actually have seen his shoe shop and
you wouldn't believe how small it is...

[Aratus]

hope vern doesn't mind another link to jim ogonowski's you-tube video
http://techrepublican.com/blog/jim-ogonowski-releases-hilarious-web-video

[Aratus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverett_Saltonstall_I
here's two noteworthy Saltonstalls, and yes, in the past...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverret_Saltonstall we sometimes
had our voters from the old rolls somehow voting in elections
way after their time on this earth, and evidently having an
impact on the election of the current hour... i had the
worry by namedropping, i sorta scared away people!

[Aratus]

i presume were they alive today, at least one of these two
bay state republicans would have voted for ron paul this february!

[Aratus]

again, as with ol' ben franklin being alive today and what he'd do...
this all is predicated on his being EXTREMELY old! and in his right mind!

[Aratus]

my informal tally! one of the two leverett saltonstalls
would have voted for ron paul, and clearly at least one
of the two henry cabot lodges! its hard to peg how all four
could have interacted in a caucus! again, this trek down
memory lane! this makes politics interesting! wait until i
quip about james michael curley and honey fitz! and i shall!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSbL2bP2VzM
as it is, if Jim Ogonoski at 48% comes CLOSE to John Kerry at 52%...
he could take on Teddy Kennedy in 2012... or if he wins his race, he will
have springboarded from his run a few months back to the senate and
national prominence ! here is an opposition take on the VERY CLOSE race!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3618929

[Aratus]

my last bump for the day...
https://www.jimogonowski.com/

and here is VERN McKINLEY's SITE!
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/


[methinks if you sub 'wolf' for 'kerry', and
[downplay or rewrite for the lacking of irish/forbes hair...
[sometimes methinks amature video truely has
[its charms and effectiveness!!!}}}}!!!

ogonowski delivers his message direct on...

[Aratus]

it takes about two bucks to ride our "T" and the computer
chip in our "charlie cards' gives us a 30 cent discount, sometimes!

[Aratus]

Kerry and Wolf ride their senator subway for FREE!
[save for how you define what we taxpayers contribute!]

[Aratus]

even though new york state is not massachusetts, i am once again
drawn to the drama in albany. just as i thought things had quieted down,
there are new disclossures. turns out the governor of new york as a young
man had smoked some joints and sampled cocaine. was there some obscure
police blotter concerning the joints and he felt impelled to tell us all this...?
as i said before, hunter thompson would have had great joy and fun
chronicaling the twists and turns of the major stories of this election year.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

this is a thought, if ogonowski does upset john kerry rather than happily
pulling a endicott "chubb" peabody where defeat is NARROWLY snatched from the
jaws of victory, would this make his video one of the better ones of the year?

[Aratus]

actually my short list and name recognition factor for famous names. if vern mckinley
is reading this here thread http://www-sal.cs.uiuc.edu/~friedman/champaign-urbana/Chapter18.htm
the simple act of clicking on this here link may freak him out, sorta! it does me! turns out
there was a WILLIAM BROWN McKINLEY who is famous on a local level in Illinois politics
and yes, he runs for several positions in the 1880s and 1890s and into the early 1900s. Even
if the POTUS and his Indiana uncle are more distant, and i half think so because i think Vern
does not really have a trace of the famous McKinley jaw nearly all the president's relatives had,
i'm sorta thinkin' he reminds me a tad of the guy on these wonderous old campaign buttons!

[Bradley in DC]

Vern's Cato work (http://find.cato.org/search?q=vern+mckinley&btnG=Search&restrict=Cato&site=cato_all&output=xml_no_dtd&client=cato_all&btnG.y=0&lr=lang_en&btnG.x=0&proxystylesheet=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cato.org%2Ftempla tes%2Fsearch%2Fcato.xslt&getfields=summary&oe=UTF-8) has been cited by Dr. Paul (http://financialservices.house.gov/banking/31198pau.htm), Reaso (http://reason.com/news/show/33670.html)n, and the Mises Institute (http://www.mises.org/story/1765)to justify their positions.

I've known Vern for ten years and am helping the campaign. A lot of people are taking notice and want the change he offers. Could someone help organize a money bomb for him?

He's running against Frank Wolf. Appropriations “Cardinal” Wolf personifies the earmarks problem symbolizing Congressional arrogance to their contributions to the economic malaise gripping the District. He has become a tax raising big spender: his NTU rating fell from 80 (1995) to 45 (2006). Wolf is a big supporter of foreign aid!

[Aratus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z4yP3TuxEw Debate: Vern McKinley vs. Jerrold Nadler on Credit

[TruthAtLast]

Vern Mckinley deserves our support. I just put in $100.00.... Then again I'm biased... He's running in my district. :-)



Actually I feel a little better about him getting donations within his own district. Yes, Ron Paul supporters should support these freedom candidates (I've donated to about 9 of them so far) but these candidates also need to pay their dues and need to get donations from their own community rather than holding out their hand to Ron Paul supporters thinking they'll just do all of the work for them (not talking about Vern, just all candidates in general)

I wish there was a "matching fund" mechanism where every dollar a candidate can raise locally, Ron Paul supporters outside that area could match it.

[Bradley in DC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z4yP3TuxEw Debate: Vern McKinley vs. Jerrold Nadler on Credit

How OLD is this video? At any rate, great find, thanks!

[Aratus]

TruthAtLast, a matching fund, thats not a bad idea, and with VIRGINIA's caucuses
and state convention process looming, even if OFFICIALLY people aren't totally
part of the RON PAUL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, perhaps they can be vibewise in
tandem to similar if not identical messages at the groundlings level of the G.O.P!!!
If he is so motived, methinks you'd like to see VERN McKINLEY in ST. PAUL come September!
If the matching funds issue trips up McCain royally, its going to be quite a convention!

[Aratus]

thanks Bradley! the word "Clinton" as in administration sorta dates it! (....to 1993?)

[mrchubbs]

Here is a much more recent one of Vern speaking to the Rep. Liberty Caucus of VA the other day...

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIi0cNWro4

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcuZHtLesHM


Enjoy!

[Aratus]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/09/AR2007070901673.html

[Aratus]

http://www.spock.com/Vern-McKinley

[pinkmandy]

Nice videos!

[Aratus]

it was sorta fun to do the link from
the early days of the clinton years...

[Aratus]

terse short bio of the potus and he does faintly look like vern!
http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/mckinley.html

[me3]

Could someone help organize a money bomb for him?
I'm sure we could.

I have no idea where the planning (if any to this point) is at.

Obviously we need a slogan/theme, date and (achievable) goal.

Then we'll have to get a site up, as well as banners, videos, some blog coverage for Technorati, DIGG, stumble, reddit etc.

We'll need a press release for local media....

Make sure the community and VA/ DC meetups are on top of this.

Is Vern endorsed by Dr. Paul?

Let me know your thoughts Bradley. PM is best, I lose track of threads these days...

[Aratus]

a Gravel article and as i read it happily, there is a Skyler McKinley meantioned!
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/gravel-to-run-for-libertarian-nod/

[Todd]

I don't live in his district, but it's great to hear we have two candidates in the state.
Bump for Virginia.

[Bradley in DC]

I'm sure we could.

I have no idea where the planning (if any to this point) is at.

Obviously we need a slogan/theme, date and (achievable) goal.

Then we'll have to get a site up, as well as banners, videos, some blog coverage for Technorati, DIGG, stumble, reddit etc.

We'll need a press release for local media....

Make sure the community and VA/ DC meetups are on top of this.

Is Vern endorsed by Dr. Paul?

Let me know your thoughts Bradley. PM is best, I lose track of threads these days...

Excellent, thanks. I JUST got back to DC and will be chatting with Vern tomorrow. Let's see what we can put together!

[Aratus]

cool!

[Aratus]

wasn't there a KENNEDY era piece of legislation that had 2 dollar
and 5 dollar bills and a silver backing like some of the old FDR one dollar
bills during the great depression? i thought i saw this today. kennedy might
have been wanting a return to the old collector's item SILVER BACKs!

[Bradley in DC]

We're having an organizational meeting later this afternoon. It'd really help motivate the grassroots volunteers if we could report more fundraising success.

Go here to contribute:
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/contribute.html

No special codes to give to line my pockets or anything like that...;)

[Aratus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar
not that WIKI is the best authority about gold standard backed one
dollar bills circa say 1928 or perhaps a one dollar silver ounce backed
back bill from 1934, however there seems to be a JFK era or related
piece of legislation involving 2 and 5 dollars and silver backings. in
light of the voluntary now collector's item LIBERTY dollars the rEVOLUTIOn
has happily circulated about under the honor code. again, the lack of
a backing for our official monies even though we have metal reserves...

[Aratus]

i did pesnively as...is he a distant relative of this guy?
http://www.mckinley.lib.oh.us/ if
the churchmouse poorer relatives of the auld potus NEVER dipped into
TEAPOT DOME public funds or politics since that tragic day more than
100 years ago...then feel you are doin' right by passin' around the hat
for his distant kinsman Vern in parsimous up country scots-irish terms!
http://www.fullbooks.com/Mr-Dooley-s-Philosophy2.html harding was
also from ohio. i am trying to remember how many McKinleys ran for
public office in the 20th century, and i am on a very very very short list...

Wolf, the 10th districts alpha-male ranking Virgina representative has been
there since 1981, is part of the Reagan Revolution, and raps the People's Republic
of China on the knuckles verbally as in recently in terms of human rights...! if
Vern wins, he is a newbie in terms of ALL the house committees that Wolf is now on!

i sorta feel 2oo8 as well as 2012 could
be years of significant change. mckinley
has youth on his side. rocky economic times
often trigger political change for good or ill.
even though wolf has held his seat against
the dems, if he's percieved as out of touch,
even if a tad grandfatherly, there could be
an upset for him either now or in the next two
or four years! the fed is freaking out right now...!

THE HOUSE IS LESS DRIVEN BY SENIORITY THAN THE SENATE...


did you know in the 1936, henry cabot lodge jr. was one of the few
republicans to secure a senate seat during the new deal sweeps of fdr?
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=L000394
if people can figure out how republicans can and did win during lean
and hard recession/depression years, to apply this during the discontent...
then getting through the situational noice to communicate an idea is critical!

folks, do i have permission to include 1896 lore
in any of my future bumps even if we both are not sure
if the guy who won over william jennings bryan and
this here young guy are anyway closely related?

http://www.archive.org/details/EDIS-SRP-0190-07
the above link is perhaps to the first audio recording
ever of one of our vice presidents. i think benjamin harrison
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ykiZk4fE8 is our first president
to have his voice recorded! even though we have recordings of
grover cleveland and perhaps also rutherford b. hayes...
http://www.lib.msu.edu/vincent/presidents/mckinley.htm
another thought about the gov't's size in 1920 and the year 1900...
if ron paul is trying to bring us back to a time before the federal income tax
became an annual event, and coolidge is seven years after the bill wilson signs
and the mckinley wartime federal income tax was predicated on honest abe's civil war
federal income tax, we if asking what we should have as a federal structure, perhaps we
ought to take the size of the gov't in either the year 1900, 1920 or 1940 and multiply
by three. there is a song of the roaring twenties that sings a paeon of praise to
our nation, which at that time was 100,ooo,ooo strong, and given that we
are now 300,ooo,ooo... then taking either mckinley's or hardings or
franklin delano roosevelt's governmental structure to heart
is then a goal for this movement. the very idea that
if Ron Paul actually wins the election in 2012,
maybe we could see the gov't greatly
reduced in less than two years...

had to look on a map to figure out where virginia's tenth is...
i get the idea that d.c is over the river for the most part and
the house once owned by jamie monroe is sorta up river and
horseback's ride upriver. i did have the understanding that in
recent years there is a north of the mason/dixon line influx into
ol' virginny and as of late, there have been more houses, roads,
taxes and schools. areas around richmond are being very greatly
developed. my brother-in-law and my sister a few years back saw
some countryside within commuting distance of several UVa campases
and fell in love with the idea of farmland and horses and rolling green hills
with less winter snowfalls. making a long story short i am. they felt that the
place they settled into in suburbanite glee sorta was like my home town some
20 or 30 years ago. lately they are gettin' restless again. housing was booming...
they toyed with the idea of going up into the shennandoah somewhat or now goin'
further south. if Wolf is a wily auld*time politician though not technically a democrat,
and he has now pitched himself to a raft of northern suburbanites, clearly the discomfort
romney was feeling perhaps is sorta like what rep. wolf shall be in if the 10th goes AU-H20!

i just had the idea in my head that if vern mckinley has a campaign staff,
they might want to do up a cheap papered small little campaign letter and/or email
along the lines of what a local guy did for former governor romney. for good or ill it
seems some of the decisions representative wolf made have their political echoes in
what mitt romney also likewise did for a different set of reasons. i admit that i knew
his father george romney was a liberal republican, and i also know that ed brooke,
who was in the senate prior to john kerry's arrival is a liberal republican... and i know
i am in a state where party democrats outnumber members of the republican party two
to one... mitt romney as our governor had to deal with a heavily democratic state
legislature. its occuring to me that representative wolf's shifts on the issues could be
listed in a humble tract and thusly would be instances of flipflopping. we can debate if
barack obama is better at flipflopping or potential flipflopping than ms. hillary clinton
if only because he has YET to precisely state where he is on many issues. on foreign
policy he is more of a dove than is john mccain, and on domestic policy, if he wins the
party nomination, most of hillary clinton's poly-sci aspected hacks will float his way. in
all fairness to the longterm tenacity representative wolf has concerning his seat, this
year has the vibe of many surprises. it is not typical or predictable. some of the image
related damage control issues mitt romney had, that impelled him to go overboard in
tv ads this january, are a response to this humble tract of a pamplett. i bumped the
thread below, i'm sorta proud in a way about the locality and local nature of the story...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1266843#1266843



good going! if pinkmandy is correct, this will thrill her! two people who
are now IN THE DISTRICT are on his bandwagon! evidently vern mckinley
reads these forums! i did see her say that he did! looking on a map a while
back, out of pure curiousity, i did see a small town near the natural bridge
on the other side of 81 that sorta hints the founder again might be a relative!
i did see that the president from niles, ohio had relatives all over pennsylvania.
the supreme court justice in the 1840s and 1850s who was on taney's court
was from alabama. seems to me perhaps vern mckinley has distant relatives
all the way up and down the appalacian mountains! not that i am an expert
on the scots-irish emigrations from the u.k in the early or mid 1600s onwards!
McKINLEY is in augusta county! its near to staunton, waynesboro and charlottesville...


massachusetts has delegate selecting caucuses on april 5th... taking heart to what
missouri did and is doing, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=129917
people are trying to talk people into going in at the local level and voting for the delegates
for the state and national conventions! i'm kicking myself for not getting me and my winter
cold to the polls last february 5th, right now i could be soon to be at the caucuses had i done so!!! i'm
wondering if more people are unaware of what the party rules are as to each state! here goes!
http://www3.webng.com/ronpaul/become_delegate_VA.html pinkmandy, is Vern
thinkin' about goin' to St.Paul, Minn???? seems he might get people to caucus locally!

cooooooooooooooooooooooool... earlier today i sorta worried my zest for
posting away happily scared away a fellow baystater who wanted to go
to our local april fifth caucuses, and then to my relief, "wgadget" and "andrewjackson" as
well as a fellow poster got a commitment out of this true blue Ron Paul person to
ACTUALLY have the patience for the delegate selection process. i am kicking
myself. had i voted, our state's rules have LESS qualifiers than virginia! i could
have gone nearby to a local caucus and then voted happily on planking and the like!
i might have gone a bit over the top when wondering if henry cabot lodge jr.
was alive today, like who he would vote for, and i had the reasons why i thought
alternatively he could be drawn to romney, mccain or ron paul. actually when
being reflective, i feel henry cabot lodge senior might have gotten his grandson to
vote for doctor ron paul were both good gents were alive today an' extremely old!
between you and me, i think i've added to the name recognition factor
the name "mckinley" has in the populance at large! now if we can namedrop
VERN a tad more than bill or william, who knows? anyway, it was fun doing up a link
to garrett hobart's excited voice on that there wax cylander! i'm in rarified form!


here's another long ago almost totally
http://www.juntosociety.com/vp/hwilson.html
forgotten republican! he is for a time a whig!
i actually have seen his shoe shop and
you wouldn't believe how small it is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverett_Saltonstall_I
here's two noteworthy Saltonstalls, and yes, in the past...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverret_Saltonstall we sometimes
had our voters from the old rolls somehow voting in elections
way after their time on this earth, and evidently having an
impact on the election of the current hour... i had the
worry by namedropping, i sorta scared away people!


again, as with ol' ben franklin being alive today and what he'd do...
this all is predicated on his being EXTREMELY old! and in his right mind!

my informal tally! one of the two leverett saltonstalls
would have voted for ron paul, and clearly at least one
of the two henry cabot lodges! its hard to peg how all four
could have interacted in a caucus! again, this trek down
memory lane! this makes politics interesting! wait until i
quip about james michael curley and honey fitz! and i shall!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSbL2bP2VzM
as it is, if Jim Ogonoski at 48% comes CLOSE to John Kerry at 52%...
he could take on Teddy Kennedy in 2012... or if he wins his race, he will
have springboarded from his run a few months back to the senate and
national prominence ! here is an opposition take on the VERY CLOSE race!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3618929


my last bump for the day...
https://www.jimogonowski.com/

and here is VERN McKINLEY's SITE!
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/


[methinks if you sub 'wolf' for 'kerry', and
[downplay or rewrite for the lacking of irish/forbes hair...
[sometimes methinks amature video truely has
[its charms and effectiveness!!!}}}}!!!

ogonowski delivers his message direct on...


even though new york state is not massachusetts, i am once again
drawn to the drama in albany. just as i thought things had quieted down,
there are new disclossures. turns out the governor of new york as a young
man had smoked some joints and sampled cocaine. was there some obscure
police blotter concerning the joints and he felt impelled to tell us all this...?
as i said before, hunter thompson would have had great joy and fun
chronicaling the twists and turns of the major stories of this election year.

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this is a thought, if ogonowski does upset john kerry rather than happily
pulling a endicott "chubb" peabody where defeat is NARROWLY snatched from the
jaws of victory, would this make his video one of the better ones of the year?

actually my short list and name recognition factor for famous names. if vern mckinley
is reading this here thread http://www-sal.cs.uiuc.edu/~friedman/champaign-urbana/Chapter18.htm
the simple act of clicking on this here link may freak him out, sorta! it does me! turns out
there was a WILLIAM BROWN McKINLEY who is famous on a local level in Illinois politics
and yes, he runs for several positions in the 1880s and 1890s and into the early 1900s. Even
if the POTUS and his Indiana uncle are more distant, and i half think so because i think Vern
does not really have a trace of the famous McKinley jaw nearly all the president's relatives had,
i'm sorta thinkin' he reminds me a tad of the guy on these wonderous old campaign buttons!

TruthAtLast, a matching fund, thats not a bad idea, and with VIRGINIA's caucuses
and state convention process looming, even if OFFICIALLY people aren't totally
part of the RON PAUL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, perhaps they can be vibewise in
tandem to similar if not identical messages at the groundlings level of the G.O.P!!!
If he is so motived, methinks you'd like to see VERN McKINLEY in ST. PAUL come September!
If the matching funds issue trips up McCain royally, its going to be quite a convention!


terse short bio of the potus and he does faintly look like vern!
http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/mckinley.html


a Gravel article and as i read it happily, there is a Skyler McKinley meantioned!
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/gravel-to-run-for-libertarian-nod/

wasn't there a KENNEDY era piece of legislation that had 2 dollar
and 5 dollar bills and a silver backing like some of the old FDR one dollar
bills during the great depression? i thought i saw this today. kennedy might
have been wanting a return to the old collector's item SILVER BACKs!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar
not that WIKI is the best authority about gold standard backed one
dollar bills circa say 1928 or perhaps a one dollar silver ounce backed
back bill from 1934, however there seems to be a JFK era or related
piece of legislation involving 2 and 5 dollars and silver backings. in
light of the voluntary now collector's item LIBERTY dollars the rEVOLUTIOn
has happily circulated about under the honor code. again, the lack of
a backing for our official monies even though we have metal reserves...

should i now explain high tariffs? admittedly we have people who understand tariffs better than i do!

[Kotin]

Bump !!