Even if RP doesn't get the nomination, his campaign has already shaken up the system.

[Starks]

Honestly, when was the last time a grassroots campaign has been on such a successful upslope like Ron Paul's?

[Cowlesy]

I will accept nothing less than a victory.

[Wyurm]

I will accept nothing less than a victory.

I concur whole-heartedly.

[shadowhooch]

More of an impact than you may think even. Let's say worst case scenario, Ron Paul gets 10% of the Republican votes in the primaries.

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?

I know I won't. I will write in Ron Paul or refrain from voting for President. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most of you will end up voting Republican anyway. But I think the Republicans have a sure fire loss in the Presidential race if Ron Paul isn't their candidtate.

Do you agree or will you still vote for whoever is nominated?

[TheEvilDetector]

More of an impact than you may think even. Let's say worst case scenario, Ron Paul gets 10% of the Republican votes in the primaries.

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?

I know I won't. I will write in Ron Paul or refrain from voting for President. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most of you will end up voting Republican anyway. But I think the Republicans have a sure fire loss in the Presidential race if Ron Paul isn't their candidtate.

Do you agree or will you still vote for whoever is nominated?

Best thing you can do if RP loses is get a popular selection out of 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. The rest provide grassroots support. The idea is MUCH bigger than the man. If RP loses, it means nothing more than there is more work to do. The fact that the idea has gained such traction is already a massive victory. The battle of ideas is the most important battle there is.

Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall. Country will then be firmly in the grasp of liberty loving people.

:)

[Starks]

More of an impact than you may think even. Let's say worst case scenario, Ron Paul gets 10% of the Republican votes in the primaries.

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?

I know I won't. I will write in Ron Paul or refrain from voting for President. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most of you will end up voting Republican anyway. But I think the Republicans have a sure fire loss in the Presidential race if Ron Paul isn't their candidtate.

Do you agree or will you still vote for whoever is nominated?

I'd have to swallow my pride and vote Democrat... I'd rather deal with Hillary or Obama for 4 years than any other republican.

[noxagol]

Best thing you can do if RP loses is get 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall. Country will then be firmly in the grasp of liberty loving people.

:)

DING DING DING YOU WIN THE PRIZE!

[The Good Doctor]

I'm sorry. I am traditionally a Democrat. The point is, I am not voting for any shills anymore. Obama and Clinton support La Raza's view that a "wave of hate" was responsible for the failure of the immigration bill. I'm sorry that is a lie.

So, I am writing in Ron Paul. Period end of story. Anyone that bails on Ron Paul now is missing the point of his campaign and why he is running. The system isn't going to change with any of the other candidates. It will be status quo.

I am sick and tired of all their rhetoric. Now Monday Bushy is up in Canada with the Mexican president trying to usher in a North American Union. Doesn't that piss anyone off? Especially with Congress out of session?


More of an impact than you may think even. Let's say worst case scenario, Ron Paul gets 10% of the Republican votes in the primaries.

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?

I know I won't. I will write in Ron Paul or refrain from voting for President. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most of you will end up voting Republican anyway. But I think the Republicans have a sure fire loss in the Presidential race if Ron Paul isn't their candidtate.

Do you agree or will you still vote for whoever is nominated?

[Starks]

Best thing you can do if RP loses is get a popular selection out of 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. The rest provide grassroots support. The idea is MUCH bigger than the man. If RP loses, it means nothing more than there is more work to do. The fact that the idea has gained such traction is already a massive victory. The battle of ideas is the most important battle there is.

Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall. Country will then be firmly in the grasp of liberty loving people.

:)

I just shed tears of pure democratic joy... If you can't change government, become the government.

[Original_Intent]

I'm sorry. I am traditionally a Democrat. The point is, I am not voting for any shills anymore. Obama and Clinton support La Raza's view that a "wave of hate" was responsible for the failure of the immigration bill. I'm sorry that is a lie.

So, I am writing in Ron Paul. Period end of story. Anyone that bails on Ron Paul now is missing the point of his campaign and why he is running. The system isn't going to change with any of the other candidates. It will be status quo.

I am sick and tired of all their rhetoric. Now Monday Bushy is up in Canada with the Mexican president trying to usher in a North American Union. Doesn't that piss anyone off? Especially with Congress out of session?

My wife and I are right there with you we are voting Ron Paul in the general election if we have to write him in to do it.

Let's make sure that isn't necessary =)

[aravoth]

I'm voting for Ron Paul. I don't give a shit what the GOP nominates.

[fluoridatedbrainsoup]

Although, sadly, Ron Paul's effecting the talking points of the other candidates does nothing to change this country once one of the CFR's chosen gets in. So effective they have been, in turning the meaning of words to their exact opposite, where freedom actually is slavery these days, and bringing democracy becomes raining death. I get so sick of it.

[slantedview]

I will accept nothing less than a victory.

amen


I'm voting for Ron Paul. I don't give a shit what the GOP nominates.

amen

[Chester Copperpot]

I will accept nothing less than a victory.

AGREED!

[michaelwise]

I'm sorry. I am traditionally a Democrat. The point is, I am not voting for any shills anymore. Obama and Clinton support La Raza's view that a "wave of hate" was responsible for the failure of the immigration bill. I'm sorry that is a lie.

So, I am writing in Ron Paul. Period end of story. Anyone that bails on Ron Paul now is missing the point of his campaign and why he is running. The system isn't going to change with any of the other candidates. It will be status quo.

I am sick and tired of all their rhetoric. Now Monday Bushy is up in Canada with the Mexican president trying to usher in a North American Union. Doesn't that piss anyone off? Especially with Congress out of session? GW is a traitor to the American people. I will write in Ron Paul, if he doesn't get the nomination. Do you think we could teach people how to do a write in?

[Lord Xar]

Honestly, when was the last time a grassroots campaign has been on such a successful upslope like Ron Paul's?

I have to be honest, i don't agree with you. Though Ron Paul is streaming along, if he doesn't win - those who end up winning will just drive America further into the globalist agenda and probably socialism... Ron Paul will be a memory.....

Fond memories have no place in this battle for liberty.

[Lord Xar]

I'm sorry. I am traditionally a Democrat. The point is, I am not voting for any shills anymore. Obama and Clinton support La Raza's view that a "wave of hate" was responsible for the failure of the immigration bill. I'm sorry that is a lie.

So, I am writing in Ron Paul. Period end of story. Anyone that bails on Ron Paul now is missing the point of his campaign and why he is running. The system isn't going to change with any of the other candidates. It will be status quo.

I am sick and tired of all their rhetoric. Now Monday Bushy is up in Canada with the Mexican president trying to usher in a North American Union. Doesn't that piss anyone off? Especially with Congress out of session?

yup.. The democrats of today are mostly socialists.... Obama will absolutely grant amnesty and hillary will push her socialist agendas and THEN grant amnesty, while footing the bill to the middle class.

oh shit.. I didn't even think of that.. Congress is not in session and he is up there making deals... what can he do without congress in session? Can he put forward legislation?

[fj45lvr]

I'd have to swallow my pride and vote Democrat... I'd rather deal with Hillary or Obama for 4 years than any other republican.

Well the problem with that is that it isn't JUST them but everyone else they appoint to run things!!!

Make no mistake about it if you are for SMALLER government you don't want to vote for the Socialists who want to regulate you out of nearly everything with a MASSIVE government from the TOP down.

[UtahApocalypse]

Ron Paul will get my vote no matter who the nominees are. This is not party politics in my view, its about America. I also agree we need to start moving some supporters into political positions, with the grassroots support. We can take this country back, even if we have to start from the local levels. One last thought: Who had the most write-ins for President ever? I bet that Ron Paul would claim that record if the GOP shuts him out.

[PineGroveDave]

So, I am writing in Ron Paul. Period end of story. Anyone that bails on Ron Paul now is missing the point of his campaign and why he is running. The system isn't going to change with any of the other candidates. It will be status quo. Indeed. I too will vote for Dr. Paul even if it means writing him in.

[trispear]

Even if RP doesn't get the nomination, his campaign has already shaken up the system.

Absolutely not. The system will settle back to it's comfortable ways. RP needs to win.

[SwordOfShannarah]

Best thing you can do if RP loses is get a popular selection out of 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. The rest provide grassroots support. The idea is MUCH bigger than the man. If RP loses, it means nothing more than there is more work to do. The fact that the idea has gained such traction is already a massive victory. The battle of ideas is the most important battle there is.

Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall. Country will then be firmly in the grasp of liberty loving people.

:)

A brand new site just for this purpose:

http://www.RonPaulsAcrossAmerica.com

if anyone knows of other Ron Paul platform candidates please submit them to the site!

[max]

If the neo-cons prevail in GOP primary...WE MUST INSIST THAT RP RUN 3RD PARTY...He would actually have a better shot..

but lets focus on New hampshire and Iowa for now

[lintsniffer]

ah, but what if Ron Paul is the VP on someone else's ticket?

[aravoth]

ah, but what if Ron Paul is the VP on someone else's ticket?

I'll still vote for him in the big seat.

[The Good Doctor]

Dude this whole thing has been progressing towards the NAU without Congress and the American people knowing about it. Our nation's sovereignty is being sold out by Bush! This is why they don't want to stop the illegals coming in over the border or they don't want the fence built.

I first heard about it from Lou Dobbs. Also search for SPP, NAU, and NAFTA Super Highway for more info. The NAFTA Super Highway is sickening too. A highway from Texas all the way up to Canada.

I can't believe this shit is even going down.

http://www.spp.gov/

This is the pro NAU bullshit web site.


yup.. The democrats of today are mostly socialists.... Obama will absolutely grant amnesty and hillary will push her socialist agendas and THEN grant amnesty, while footing the bill to the middle class.

oh shit.. I didn't even think of that.. Congress is not in session and he is up there making deals... what can he do without congress in session? Can he put forward legislation?

[The Good Doctor]

Exactly! America! I keep telling this to people that are supporting this Bush regime. They are such hard core Repubs wave the flag blah blah blah nuke Iran.

And that is how they want us to think. About the two party system. When we start any conversation with Ron Paul it has to be about "America" We as Americans uniting. That is what is so great about Dr. Paul. He is uniting across parties and voter demographics, color, creed etc!

We HAVE to take this country back. I hate to think of what the future will be in Rudy gets the nod. Or any other candidates get nominated. It is the same BS year after year. Less freedom, more government, more debt, more bullshit.


Ron Paul will get my vote no matter who the nominees are. This is not party politics in my view, its about America. I also agree we need to start moving some supporters into political positions, with the grassroots support. We can take this country back, even if we have to start from the local levels. One last thought: Who had the most write-ins for President ever? I bet that Ron Paul would claim that record if the GOP shuts him out.

[FreedomLover]

Well, even if he doesn't win the nomination, it is still a fascinating and groundbreaking experiment in internet grassroots and networking campaigns. And the best part is, all the videos, all the posts, all the letters, all the ideas, all the enthusiasm will still be there on the internet when we're long gone.

Anyone will be able to go back years from now and look at how a large, scattered group of disaffected patriots with nothing but a modem, a yard-sign, and a disdain for status-quo politics was able to coalesce into a movement bigger than they had ever dreamed, and how they fought for a brighter, free future.

[jasonhlasvegas]

I honestly think there has been a paradigm shift in American politics. The pundits will be talking about this in 6-12 months as if they predicted it all along. This shift began with the Dean candidacy, and it will finish with a Ron Paul presidency.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

A brand new site just for this purpose:

http://www.RonPaulsAcrossAmerica.com

if anyone knows of other Ron Paul platform candidates please submit them to the site!

That's an awesome website... If I had the time and devotion to run for Congress I would.

But the endless slump of bills, being in school, working and taking care of the family gets in the way of that.

I do encourage citizen statesmen of course. The status quo we have with career politicians has dumped this country into the toilet. Electing citizens, instead of politicians is the only way we are going to get out of this mess.

[Matt Collins]

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?I'll either vote Libertarian, Constitution, or a write-in (RP).

[Lord Xar]

Dude this whole thing has been progressing towards the NAU without Congress and the American people knowing about it. Our nation's sovereignty is being sold out by Bush! This is why they don't want to stop the illegals coming in over the border or they don't want the fence built.

I first heard about it from Lou Dobbs. Also search for SPP, NAU, and NAFTA Super Highway for more info. The NAFTA Super Highway is sickening too. A highway from Texas all the way up to Canada.

I can't believe this shit is even going down.

http://www.spp.gov/

This is the pro NAU bullshit web site.

Oh, I am VERY aware of the NAU and such... I just find it "coincidental" that he is up there when Congress is NOT in session.. PHUKKKKKK

[LibertyEagle]

Guys...
Why are we talking about this at this point? It's almost like we are creating our own self-fulfilling prophecy. Have you noticed that every couple of weeks, someone starts a thread like this? What if he doesn't win?

We'd better make damn sure he DOES win. Or I doubt we'll have a country much longer? Do you? This campaign is about pulling out all the stops, right now, while we do have a voice. Even though they're doing their best to shut us out.

Don't you think we have to go at this thing like there is no tomorrow? I do. Once the NAU is pushed through, our Constitution will be history and there will be no elections like we have right now.

It just seems to me that whether we're shy or whatever it is, we have to get over it, right now, and go after this election like it is our last chance to stave off a complete economic collapse, martial law, gulags and the complete loss of our Constitution and a sovereign United States. It is my opinion, that this is exactly the battle we are fighting.

[ZandarKoad]

He will win. And... I'll STILL WRITE HIM IN! Screw the little check boxes! :D

[angelatc]

I'll either vote Libertarian, Constitution, or a write-in (RP).

DItto. I'm not going to run for office. Heck, I voted Green Party one year, just because I think any indication of third party support is better than a vote for the status quo.

[Mastiff]

I don't know you guys. I'll be the lone flame target and say that I still see a huge difference between republican and democrat. Ron Paul is my ideal almost, being a conservative leaning libertarian without, e.g., wacky ideas on immigration.

But if it really comes down to, say, Mitt vs. Edwards, I'd have to choose Mitt. Single payer socialized medicine and regulating us to death for global warming scares the hell out of me. Almost any democrat wants that on day 1, and republicans are going the other way. On top of that, there's gun control and supreme court nominees.

This new crop of democrats is more left than anything I could have seriously imagined a few years ago.

[ecliptic]

Only victory. Nothing less, nothing else....

Ron Paul will win the presidency on November 4, 2008.
Ron Paul will win the presidency on November 4, 2008.
Ron Paul will win the presidency on November 4, 2008.

443 days to go...

[princessredtights]

I don't know you guys. I'll be the lone flame target and say that I still see a huge difference between republican and democrat. Ron Paul is my ideal almost, being a conservative leaning libertarian without, e.g., wacky ideas on immigration.

But if it really comes down to, say, Mitt vs. Edwards, I'd have to choose Mitt. Single payer socialized medicine and regulating us to death for global warming scares the hell out of me. Almost any democrat wants that on day 1, and republicans are going the other way. On top of that, there's gun control and supreme court nominees.

This new crop of democrats is more left than anything I could have seriously imagined a few years ago.


You know what I have learned since May (when my eyes were opened up) ... I'm tired of voting the lesser of 2 evils. I will NEVER again vote for someone I have no confidence in - just to vote.

I think this election IS shaking up the establishment ... and that's a good thing ... they have patted the American people on the head and set us out "to play" while they take care of "business" ... nope, not anymore ... I'm a pissed off white woman who is not going to take "it" anymore!

[FreedomLover]

I don't know you guys. I'll be the lone flame target and say that I still see a huge difference between republican and democrat. Ron Paul is my ideal almost, being a conservative leaning libertarian without, e.g., wacky ideas on immigration.

But if it really comes down to, say, Mitt vs. Edwards, I'd have to choose Mitt. Single payer socialized medicine and regulating us to death for global warming scares the hell out of me. Almost any democrat wants that on day 1, and republicans are going the other way. On top of that, there's gun control and supreme court nominees.

This new crop of democrats is more left than anything I could have seriously imagined a few years ago.

Pretty much the same here.

Any top Republican > Any top Democrat. Even if we are talking lesser of two evils.

I hate em all though. I'll cast my vote for Rp in the primaries and leave the rest up to God.

[Daveforliberty]

Best thing you can do if RP loses is get a popular selection out of 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. The rest provide grassroots support.
:)

I'm with Aravoth. I will vote for RP no matter what. And I think the above is a brilliant idea.

Why is the revolution happening now? Why, in 2007 are people suddenly rising up and reaching for the solid foundation of the constitution and the founding fathers? It can't be a coincidence. Bush was Bush in 2004, yet this didn't happen. We are meant to take the country back, people, and we have a tremendous battle in front of us in which we can never back down.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

How many of us Ron Paul supporters will swallow our pride and vote for Romney, Guiliani, or F Thompson for President vs the Democrats if they win the nomination?

I know I won't. I will write in Ron Paul or refrain from voting for President. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most of you will end up voting Republican anyway. But I think the Republicans have a sure fire loss in the Presidential race if Ron Paul isn't their candidtate.

Once you've had a taste of what a real Constitutionalist sounds like, you can't go back to the saccharine politics of the throne climbers.

In fact, I'm going to have a very hard time voting for all of the other offices next November. The very people who WANT to get elected are exactly the kind of people who should NOT get into office.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

He will win. And... I'll STILL WRITE HIM IN! Screw the little check boxes! :D

IF that day comes and RP is tragically not on the ballot-- although I believe he will be -- I hope we can all or mostly agree where to put our support. We will still need to show force through numbers if this movement is to be taken seriously in the future.

[ChooseLiberty]

Yep. But don't give up the ship - the stats just keep getting better.

Ever heard of a "tipping point"? It's closer than you think.



Best thing you can do if RP loses is get a popular selection out of 30,000 meetup members to run for congress seats. The rest provide grassroots support. The idea is MUCH bigger than the man. If RP loses, it means nothing more than there is more work to do. The fact that the idea has gained such traction is already a massive victory. The battle of ideas is the most important battle there is.

Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall. Country will then be firmly in the grasp of liberty loving people.

:)

[Brandybuck]

Dont fight City Hall, BE the City Hall.
I wholeheartedly agree! If Ron Paul wins it will be fantastic, but it will not be sufficient. He can't be there in Washington D.C. alone. We need to pack congress for him, and back that up with freedom loving folks in the states, counties and cities. Then even if he loses we can still win.

[Richie]

Another write-in vote for Dr. Paul if he doesn't win the nomination! It's a pity that I won't be able to vote in the primary. :(

[The Good Doctor]

Exactly. I've seen and heard enough of the same BS. It is so much more inspirational listening to what Ron Paul has to say. I mean all the interviews with those interested in what he has to say are just so passionate. It's infectious.

I have even talked to a co-worker and we were talking about taxes at the national level. He said I don't want my taxes going for such and such. I said "Well vote for Ron Paul then!" and I said it really fast. He goes, "I like what Ron Paul has to say" and starts talking about the You Tube videos! I was floored.

It's the message. It's uniting all Americans across all parties and voter demographics, colors, creeds, ages!


Once you've had a taste of what a real Constitutionalist sounds like, you can't go back to the saccharine politics of the throne climbers.

In fact, I'm going to have a very hard time voting for all of the other offices next November. The very people who WANT to get elected are exactly the kind of people who should NOT get into office.

[quickmike]

If Ron doesnt get the nomination, ill write him in. Right after that, Ill go around to everyone who is Republican and I will point at them and laugh saying "great job guys, you just guaranteed Hillary Clinton or Obama the presidency.......... hope you enjoy it!!!" Then, when she wins Ill come back and say "see, I told you so........... good job guys"

Then Ill just try to readjust to socialism and wait in line for toilet paper and cigarettes. LOL

[Bob Cochran]

quickmike,

Our country may be far gone, but if Hillary becomes Prez, I'll start drinking light beer.

Ach...just kidding. I'll never drink light beer.

But I think she's unelectable. I don't know ANYONE who says they'd vote for her. Of course, there could be a bunch of closet Hillary fans out there.

[trispear]

I'll write Ron Paul in.

I don't care if the Republicans lose through that, I rather they get slapped down and then have them come back to their roots - if they keep winning they'll keep doing the current thing.

[Molly Pitcher]

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams

Ron Paul has my vote.

[RJB]

Write in Dr. Paul.


That would be a good poll: who would you vote for if Dr. Paul does not win the primaries:
Democrat
Republican
Green
Libertarian
other
or write in Ron Paul.

We could get a petition of signers saying they'd write in Dr. Paul and send it to the different parties. It might change the way they campaign-- then again that just means they'll say anything to get elected and pander.

For me it's Ron Paul wins the primaries or bust! I think our country is currently in that bad of trouble.

[SwordOfShannarah]

I don't know you guys. I'll be the lone flame target and say that I still see a huge difference between republican and democrat. Ron Paul is my ideal almost, being a conservative leaning libertarian without, e.g., wacky ideas on immigration.

But if it really comes down to, say, Mitt vs. Edwards, I'd have to choose Mitt. Single payer socialized medicine and regulating us to death for global warming scares the hell out of me. Almost any democrat wants that on day 1, and republicans are going the other way. On top of that, there's gun control and supreme court nominees.

This new crop of democrats is more left than anything I could have seriously imagined a few years ago.

I'd rather be in socialist land than have half the country die in a continually expanding war. I think Mitt will get us all killed as he marches us into a religious crusade against Islam. He wants to double Guantanamo. He thinks what we've done in Iraq is GOOD! I'd never vote for that guy.. just my two cents. But lets consider that talk of the draft was at first "no way" and is now "not at this time".

But to be fair I think Hilary will do exactly the same thing. In fact I think that about pretty much all of them. They all talk about using force and continually trying to manage the world. Keeping one foot out there is like keeping one foot in the grave IMO.