Scientific Facts in the Bible

[sedele]

Scientific Facts in the Bible

1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).

4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."

12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued)

[Hiki]

Jesus fucking christ....

[acptulsa]

Interesting post. Your statement at the end may even have merit, though I suspect that some verses don't support your hypothesis as well as these do. Others might note that scientists finally proved Jewish mothers right about chicken soup--thousands of years of observation can be scientific, too. Nonetheless, I don't think the Bible infallible but I do believe there's plenty of inspiration behind it--and some of those points are pretty amazing.

Many phychiatrists at this moment repudiate Multiple Personality Disorder, though I don't think they've effectively refuted it. Having met such an unfortunate, I side with the Bible there, too. Whether such demons are born in some Hell or just in a hellish childhood, these incredible defense mechanisms--these internal whipping boys--do pop up in rare cases.

Divine inspiration or mere wisdom of untold ages? The only answer is a matter of faith. But if your faith blinds your eye, it serves you no purpose. There is knowledge and wisdom in that book.

[sedele]

Jesus fucking christ....

Please don't blaspeme the Holy name of my God, who shed His blood for my sins.


Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

[LittleLightShining]

Fantastic! Thanks for posting this, sedele.

[mmink15]

The bible also says pi is equal to 3 in 1 Kings 7:23

[Captain America]

Take that Ayn Rand! I do agree with everything else she says though.

[sedele]

The bible also says pi is equal to 3 in 1 Kings 7:23

:confused::confused::confused:
1Ki 7:23 ¶ And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: [it was] round all about, and his height [was] five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

[Bruno]

Regarding # 2 :

Why would God in his wisdom create a male that has to be circumcised? If that was his intent, why didn't he create males to that way in the first place?

The skeptic's annotated Bible is an interesting read, to find verses about science, history, sex, contraditions, violence, etc.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

[acptulsa]

The bible also says pi is equal to 3 in 1 Kings 7:23

With the calculators they had at the time, I wouldn't want to run any more significant digits than that either.

[FreeTraveler]

The Bible also says it's OK to rend children asunder with bears because they make fun of baldness, and giving your daughters up for a gang-bang to protect visitors is just fine.

[LittleLightShining]

Regarding # 2 :

Why would God in his wisdom create a male that has to be circumcised? If that was his intent, why didn't he create males to that way in the first place?

The skeptic's annotated Bible is an interesting read, to find verses about science, history, sex, contraditions, violence, etc.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/I'm no Bible scholar but this is my understanding. In the garden when humans were first created they were given free will. They were given one negative command. When Eve and Adam used their free will to defy God they were banished from the garden. When Abraham befriended God, God tested his faith. Circumcision was a test of sorts to prove faith. Had humans used their free will in accordance with God's will there would be no need for spiritual tests or redemption.

I also think that the eating of the apple was not a literal eating of fruit but the physical act of sex. This may be why the circumcision is performed on the male member. Circumcision of the penis is symbolic of a circumcision of the heart. Because the first humans chose to harden their hearts toward God to defy him sexually he requires a physical circumcision of the sexual organ. My thoughts...

[ARealConservative]

sometimes superstitions do have scientific underpinnings and sometimes they don't.

I file some of these under a broken clock theory, others are total BS and a real stretch.

[mmink15]

With the calculators they had at the time, I wouldn't want to run any more significant digits than that either.

The Egyptians did

[A. Havnes]

Why do we keep bringing up these religous arguments? All that's going to happen is a bunch of non-Christians are going to come on here and blow their horn, and a few Christians will get defensive and start bringing up all the wrong-doings done by atheists.

Seriously, who benefits from these kinds of arguments? I believe in the Bible, but bringing it up on a political forum is like placing a fishing hook into a bowl of fishing hooks - when you pull it back up, you get all kinds of hooks with it, and, in this case, that's usually a bad thing.

[gutteck]

The Bible has nothing to do with science.

Science is a tool we use in an attempt to try to explain the universe. Which by the way for us our science is something that prides ourselves but to someone more intelligent it shows a clear restriction in our mental abilities to even comprehend the universe.

The Bible is written for us. Therefore don’t expect to find things that are outside our range of understanding.

[sedele]

Regarding # 2 :

Why would God in his wisdom create a male that has to be circumcised? If that was his intent, why didn't he create males to that way in the first place?

The skeptic's annotated Bible is an interesting read, to find verses about science, history, sex, contraditions, violence, etc.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

Alot of the Old Testament is a foreshadowing of the coming of Christ, as well as what He would accomplish when He got here. One of His biggest accomplishments was fulfilling the OT law, including cicumcision.

In essence, it is the transition from the carnal to the spiritual. And circumcision was a huge sign of this transition that was to occur.


Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

[RonRules]

If your religion violates the laws of physics it is simply WRONG and FALSE.

Start with miracles. Water (H20) has NEVER been turned into wine.

The bible is mostly nonsense. Get over it.

[acptulsa]

If your religion violates the laws of physics it is simply WRONG and FALSE.

Start with miracles. Water (H20) has NEVER been turned into wine.

The bible is mostly nonsense. Get over it.

Just as you were saying, Mr. Havnes? Pity.

[gutteck]

If your religion violates the laws of physics it is simply WRONG and FALSE.

Start with miracles. Water (H20) has NEVER been turned into wine.

The bible is mostly nonsense. Get over it.

Why do you think it is called a miracle?

And unless you tell me that you were there you hold no authority to validate anything.

[amy31416]

I'm not going to get into the rest of the debate that is likely to come from this, but, please understand one thing: There are no scientific facts.

*The crowd gasps! Women swoon! Babies start to cry!*

Seriously though, you have hypotheses, theories, and laws.

Hypothesis: a tentative explanation of some regularity of nature.

Theory: a tested explanation of basic natural phenomena.

Law: a concise statement or mathematical equation about a fundamental relationship or regularity of nature.

So.....glad I could help. Carry on.

[ARealConservative]

Just as you were saying, Mr. Havnes? Pity.

It's to be expected. The thread is divisive.

The circle of the earth one bugs me. From what I have investigated, their was no word to describe a sphere, so we don't know what they truly believed. It could of meant a two dimensional, or three dimensional object.

Yet the OP claims this to be a scientific fact?

[ARealConservative]

Why do you think it is called a miracle?

And unless you tell me that you were there you hold no authority to validate anything.

The same is true of the bible. It was written by men who were not there to witness it.

[tmosley]

Understand that the Bible is basically a compilation of thousands of years of oral tradition that comes from an equal amount of observation. Children are circumcised on the eighth day because that is the day they are least likely to die from the procedure.

They knew the earth was round because they could see its shadow during a lunar eclipse. Noone ever really believed that the Earth sat on the back of a giant (except for imbeciles), it was well known to be nothing more than a flowery metaphor. v The Egyptians also proposed that the Earth was round, and estimated the circumference to about 50% accuracy (by observing the angle of shadows formed in vertical wells in upper and lower Egypt at noon).

Don't confuse dark age medicine like bleeding with classical medicine, which included things like successful brain surgeries, cataract removal, and antibacterial wound treatment (honey soaked bandages), all of which were performed by the ancient Egyptians before the settlement of Israel by the Jews.

Behemoth refers to a whale, not a hippo. And because whales were rarely sighted, characteristics of many different species can blend together. Most whales do, infact, have tails that look like trees, with two giant leaves. Narwals (and swordfish) have sword-like appendages, and a full grown whale would simple plow through any snares.

The basic idea here is that ancient people were NOT stupid, superstitious brutes. The only difference between them and us is that we have the scientific method, and test predictions by observation. This as opposed to Aristotle's method of defining the world through logic, with no need to test predictions, which set science back by a good 1000 years.

One should not confuse knowledge with science. Science is a systematic process by which theories are created, tested, and disproved by observations (survival of the fittest theory, if you will), until we find a close approximation of the truth of the universe. The Bible purports to BE the truth of the universe, which as we understand the world now, is not the case. The Bible is, however, an excellent guide to moral life (as long as you ignore all the parts where people are called upon to kill each other for silly reasons). It is also a great source of folk wisdom from that area of the world before systematic records were kept.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Scientific Facts in the Bible

1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).

4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."

12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued)

The question of faith and science are not in conflict with each other but 2 theories in the overall question of metaphysics. Despite metaphysics having the word "physics" rooted into its name, its definition has nothing to do with science and math. In actuality, the Greek "meta" was coined by a bookkeeping student of Aristotle to designate where the book was to be filed "after" the scientific scroll called "physics."
The true definition of metaphysics is "Reality?;" or, "What is reality?"
Regardless of their evidence, their IQ's and their skills at debating, scientists do not hold the solution to metaphysics. As science once made fools out of the philosophers of science who considered the question of metaphysics, scientists themselves are in constant danger of being made fools. In fact, like the rational Greeks before them who rejected the concepts of zero and infintiy, scientists today are in danger of being made fools because of the discovery of similar missing terms. Such simple discoveries in the future could serve to overthrow massively complex scientific theories based on thousands of years of evidence.
In comparison, the Christian faith believes they have acheived the metaphysical truth in the Lord Jesus Christ. While Christians pray to understand every aspect outside of Christ as a symbol to glorify Him, the person of Jesus Himself serves as a dialectic for raw data to be inputted in prayer so that THE truth will be outputted from Him.

[acptulsa]

As science once made fools out of the philosophers of science who considered the question of metaphysics, scientists themselves are in constant danger of being made fools. In fact, like the rational Greeks before them who rejected the concepts of zero and infintiy, scientists today are in danger of being made fools because of the discovery of similar missing terms. Such simple discoveries in the future could serve to overthrow massively complex scientific theories based on thousands of years of evidence.

Witness Einstein introducing the speed of light into simple equations of inertia and motion and making nuclear manipulation possible for us. Will string theory prove God exists? I doubt it, but it promises to raise as many questions as answers. As usual.

[orafi]

I counter with this!

http://www.thewaytotruth.org/science/other_developments.html

[familydog]

Why do we keep bringing up these religous arguments? All that's going to happen is a bunch of non-Christians are going to come on here and blow their horn, and a few Christians will get defensive and start bringing up all the wrong-doings done by atheists.

Seriously, who benefits from these kinds of arguments? I believe in the Bible, but bringing it up on a political forum is like placing a fishing hook into a bowl of fishing hooks - when you pull it back up, you get all kinds of hooks with it, and, in this case, that's usually a bad thing.

With the Ron Paul campaign winding down, we all have too much energy to waste. That energy goes into debating which religion is better, Christianity or Athiesm. There is your answer :)

It all boils down to interpretation. It's like Nostradamus. People look at his writings and say he predicted JFK assasination, World War II and Hilter, Napoleon, etc. But yet that is looking at them after the fact. That is, after we know what happened, we can fit them into the writings, yet no one has been able to "predict" anything before hand, based off his writings.

These sciences in the Bible are after we discover the science. There has been no scientific discoveries born out of the Bible. We just look at these scientific discoveries, after the fact, and fit them into the Bible.

So, you either have faith or you don't have faith. Although I am a Christian I don't really have an opinion on this one way or another, but I do know you need to have faith to believe it. It's pointless to argue people's faith.