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constituent
03-14-2008, 05:48 AM
"The distinguishing feature of the new anti-Semitism is criticism of Zionism or Israeli policy that -- whether intentionally or unintentionally -- has the effect of promoting prejudice against all Jews by demonizing Israel and Israelis and attributing Israel's perceived faults to its Jewish character," it said.

This was common throughout the Middle East and in Muslim communities in Europe, but was even encouraged by some activity at the United Nations, the report said.

Various U.N. agencies are asked each year to investigate what are often "sensationalized reports of alleged atrocities and other violations of human rights by Israel," the document said.

Such unremitting criticism of Israel "intentionally or not encourages anti-Semitism." This hostility can translate into physical violence, as in the surge in anti-Semitic incidents worldwide during the 2006 war between Israel and the Shi'ite Muslim group Hezbollah, the report said.

in short... according to the state department... criticism of the israeli (state) regime is "the new anti-semitism."

-and criticism of the president is unamerican (in times of war, or whatever).

sorta reminds me of the california ruling against homeschoolers... something about "loyalty to state."

OptionsTrader
03-14-2008, 05:54 AM
Anti-Muslimism is acceptable behavior. A bit inconsistent if you ask me.

jason43
03-14-2008, 05:58 AM
*nothing to see here, look the other way.

I wonder if criticizing Iran is racist against arabs or criticizing Venesuela is racist against hispanics.

This is so rediculous that it borders on absurd. Saying people who criticize another country are doing so because they are racists? In that case, you can't say anything about anyone. France, Russia, etc etc are off the table.

I have friends who are Jewish, and don't consider myself to be anti anything because of race, but Israel is heavy handed (to say the least) and there is no way around that. I'm not even anti-zionist, because I could really care less if individuals want to move to a place where they are probably going to get blown up because they think its their ancestrial homeland. More power to them. Just don't take my tax money to pay for it and don't send my brothers and sisters in the military over there to die for it.

I don't think that is unreasonable. I would say the same thing about England if Ireland was to start a war to secede from them, and my mom was born there... its not our problem or responsibility to fight other peoples fights, or to give them money to do so.

constituent
03-14-2008, 06:10 AM
state dept., "criticism of the 'government,' empire or (sub religion or w/e) is the new 'anti-(substitute ism)' and has the effect of promoting prejudice against all (sub collective) by demonizing (sub state) and (sub constituency) and attributing (sub state)'s perceived faults to its (sub collectivist broad-brushed generalization)."

sub "american" for state and "christianity" for religion.... would the public tolerate this sorta thing coming out of the state department?

micahnelson
03-14-2008, 06:23 AM
Not weighing too much in on the issue, but i teach sunday school to some highschool students. About a year ago they all started using racial slurs against jews out of nowhere.

probably from southpark though, none of them follow the news so they wouldn't have an opinion on israel/palestine.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-14-2008, 07:24 AM
There are many sources for this same argument
Anti-Israeli sentiments rise worldwide (http://www.google.com/search?q=The+State+Dept.+%22Anti-Semitism+on+the+Rise%22+&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8)

gutteck
03-14-2008, 07:27 AM
They have learned their lesson. If they let anything anti Jewish spread people might think that it is ok to criticize Jews and it could show ball from there. Contain while it is nothing.

constituent
03-14-2008, 07:30 AM
They have learned their lesson. If they let anything anti Jewish spread people might think that it is ok to criticize Jews and it could show ball from there. Contain while it is nothing.

yea, but what does that have to do w/ the state dept.?

that's what i don't get.

yongrel
03-14-2008, 07:32 AM
and the State Department should care why? I'm a little miffed that they spent tax dollars to detemrine this.

acptulsa
03-14-2008, 07:38 AM
yea, but what does that have to do w/ the state dept.?

that's what i don't get.

Simple. AIPAC's new defense is innoculation--a mental vaccine. Tell those who rely on fuzzy logic that any criticism of Israel is encoded anti-semitism and they won't listen to it, no matter how logical. This is how Israel and it's lobbies have operated since the beginning. The Nazis handed them the Holocaust, and Israel's made lemonade of it ever since.

gutteck
03-14-2008, 07:52 AM
yea, but what does that have to do w/ the state dept.?

that's what i don't get.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/std/images/ArielSharon.jpg


Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."

MysteryGuest
03-14-2008, 02:01 PM
Simple. AIPAC's new defense is innoculation--a mental vaccine. Tell those who rely on fuzzy logic that any criticism of Israel is encoded anti-semitism and they won't listen to it, no matter how logical. This is how Israel and it's lobbies have operated since the beginning. The Nazis handed them the Holocaust, and Israel's made lemonade of it ever since.

Agreed. I've always thought that this whole confusion goes further than the Nazis, though. Throughout European history, Jews were discriminated against plenty. So much so, that when Hitler and Co. started their ghettoization of Jews, a lot of Europeans and Americans applauded. Of course, when the whole genocide was revealed, a lot of people realized that their indifference helped to put Jews in that position and that Hey! Racism might be wrong! How did they reflect this new revalation? By deciding to treat people different than them as equals? Nah, we'll just help them get their own country to y'know, smooth things over. And so it has been since then. That guilt has blurred the line between criticism and antisemitism so much that they've become indistinguishable. Think of it as racism's long range blowback.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-14-2008, 02:21 PM
If you understand the nationality of the upper 1% in America, then this will give you more insight than anything else I have seen so far.
CIA, the action arm of the American elite (http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/03/cia-holocaust-claims-twenty-million.html)

IcyPeaceMaker
03-14-2008, 02:53 PM
This makes it clear how bad the problem really is (http://www.centeronbudget.org/5-31-01tax-pr.htm)

IcyPeaceMaker
03-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Holocaust, a work of fiction (http://www.zundelsite.org/english/101/101toc.html)

Sir VotesALot
03-14-2008, 07:48 PM
They have learned their lesson. If they let anything anti Jewish spread people might think that it is ok to criticize Jews and it could show ball from there. Contain while it is nothing.

It is okay to criticize Jews. Shame on you for defending this piece of shit statement. Even if I did support 'containment of anti-semitism' the government would be the last thing I'd want carrying it out.

banjojambo9
03-14-2008, 07:57 PM
sometimes the truth hurts

IPSecure
03-14-2008, 08:03 PM
The State Dept. "Anti-Semitism on the Rise"

The Anti-Semites: "State Department on the Rise"...

cageybee
03-14-2008, 08:43 PM
"Dear" Zionists,

Fuck All Y'all!

Best Regards,

Jew

kirkblitz
03-14-2008, 09:46 PM
:D

MeinStreamNeedYaMoney
03-14-2008, 10:37 PM
i believe that the israelis should have they're land, not because WE say so though, but because they own that land, it is for the jews. i dont think we should be helping them though, because they killed jesus, and that's the worst sin...

cageybee
03-14-2008, 11:19 PM
i believe that the israelis should have they're land, not because WE say so though, but because they own that land, it is for the jews. i dont think we should be helping them though, because they killed jesus, and that's the worst sin...

no, the land does not belong to them. it was promised to them by God, but they got it from Zionism, Inc., that was established in 1897 by Herzl. Zionists are just a political non-profit corporation - not God. accepting the land from the beast and not from God and before arrival of Messiah (Jesus) is called worshiping the Beast.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-14-2008, 11:38 PM
Actually, England promised the jews that they could have the holy land in return for bringing the USA into WWII. The English had no right to do that, but you see how far rights got the palestinians.

MeinStreamNeedYaMoney
03-14-2008, 11:40 PM
Actually, England promised the jews that they could have the holy land in return for bringing the USA into WWII. The English had no right to do that, but you see how far rights got the palestinians.

wow.. did the jews really do that??? that really makes you think.... maybe they havent learned since their Original Sin?????? I will not trust any jews now.. Thanks Ron Paul Brother for informing me about this :)

cageybee
03-14-2008, 11:44 PM
Actually, England promised the jews that they could have the holy land in return for bringing the USA into WWII. The English had no right to do that, but you see how far rights got the palestinians.

no, USA got into the war by itself on purpose, by applying heavy economic sanctions against Japan and provoking japanese to attack.

cageybee
03-14-2008, 11:45 PM
wow.. did the jews really do that??? that really makes you think.... maybe they havent learned since their Original Sin?????? I will not trust any jews now.. Thanks Ron Paul Brother for informing me about this :)

and its not the Jews - it is Zionists. Jews - religion, Zionists - political organization.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-15-2008, 07:03 AM
If you dispute my above post, I would recommend review of the document below:
A Jewish Defector, Ex-Zionist Warns America (http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/freedman.html)

constituent
03-15-2008, 07:27 AM
wow.. did the jews really do that??? that really makes you think.... maybe they havent learned since their Original Sin?????? I will not trust any jews now.. Thanks Ron Paul Brother for informing me about this :)

don't be such a troll. at least drop a

</sarcasm> at the end.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-15-2008, 08:34 AM
KOL NIDRE



"All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which beginning this day of reconciliation til the next day of reconciliation (one year) we intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent of beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished, valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no oaths at all." Schulc,han Aruch, Edit. I, 136.

(This is known as the KOL NIDRE (All Oaths) OATH. It is sung as a chant each Yom Kippur, Jewish New Year Service (Sept. 17] and absolves a Jew from any promises he makes during the year." How can one trust a Jewish judge, or a Jewish politician, who takes an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States, when we KNOW he takes this religious oath which allows him to break his promise to the American people?)

IcyPeaceMaker
03-15-2008, 10:06 AM
Funny how the light of day quiets the grumbling and deceit.

kyleAF
03-15-2008, 07:13 PM
*nothing to see here, look the other way.

I wonder if criticizing Iran is racist against arabs or criticizing Venesuela is racist against hispanics.

This is so rediculous that it borders on absurd. Saying people who criticize another country are doing so because they are racists? In that case, you can't say anything about anyone. France, Russia, etc etc are off the table.

I have friends who are Jewish, and don't consider myself to be anti anything because of race, but Israel is heavy handed (to say the least) and there is no way around that. I'm not even anti-zionist, because I could really care less if individuals want to move to a place where they are probably going to get blown up because they think its their ancestrial homeland. More power to them. Just don't take my tax money to pay for it and don't send my brothers and sisters in the military over there to die for it.

I don't think that is unreasonable. I would say the same thing about England if Ireland was to start a war to secede from them, and my mom was born there... its not our problem or responsibility to fight other peoples fights, or to give them money to do so.

Iranians are most definitely not Arabs. They're mostly Persian (and several smaller ethnic groups). The Arabs invaded and brought Islam--and their Arabic script--upon them many centuries ago.

I agree with the rest, though: Isn't our fight. Shouldn't be our money. Other than that, I don't care. I'm not "anti" anybody except those who would take from me against my will for any reason.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-16-2008, 12:20 AM
If you are unaware of the reasons anti-semetism is on the rise, you should see THIS (http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Pastore_Investigation_of_%209-11/chapter_7--Zionist_power_structure_in_America.htm)