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OferNave
03-13-2008, 06:19 AM
I finally got around to joining Freedom Force International last night (http://freedom-force.org/), and ended up staying up all night reading materials on the site (I really need to get to sleep after this post). I came across this page about the Ron Paul campaign, and I thought it was worth quoting (in part, because it's long):

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WORK FOR RON PAUL OR FREEDOM FORCE?
That’s a trick question that needs to be explained. Some of our members have asked to be excused from working on Freedom Force projects because they feel it is more important to devote their time to the Ron Paul campaign. I am delighted to know that they are doing that because, as we have stated many times in our Monthly Reports, that is a top priority of Freedom Force. However, this is not an either-or situation. Being active in the Ron Paul campaign IS the number-one project of Freedom Force.

Political campaigns come and go. Every four years, large numbers of people become motivated for political activism because they can see (or hope for) a specific victory with a specific date. When that date passes, most of them drop out. They return to inaction and wait another three years before doing much of anything.

THE BATTLE WILL NOT BE OVER IN 2008
The battle to restore the Constitution is not going to be won in 2008 even if Ron Paul is elected. Please re-read that statement. It is naive to believe that getting a Constitutionalist into the White House is going to change the collectivist orientation of Congress, the Courts, and the huge bureaucracy of civil servants that make the wheels of government turn. Getting Ron Paul elected would be a huge accomplishment and a giant step in the right direction, but members of Freedom Force understand that he would be surrounded by enemies, and his every move would be resisted. This struggle eventually will span many years and spread into every branch of government before we can even come close to claiming victory.

We work in the Ron Paul campaign, not because we expect the election of a single man to restore freedom in America, but because we know that political campaigns are a powerful educational and recruiting tool that, because of the passion attached to them, allow us to reach many more people with the message of freedom than is possible in off-election years. Regardless of the outcome in the primaries, regardless of the outcome at the convention, regardless of the outcome in the November election, we know that we have just begun. The long battle will continue into the next election or, if meaningful elections are no longer held, into whatever arena we may find ourselves, and we must be laying the groundwork for that now.

The Ron Paul campaign is not the end-all of our efforts; it is a means to that end. We must work mightily within the campaign, but we also must be preparing and building a foundation to carry the battle, far beyond 2008, to future action and ultimate victory.

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http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedom.cfm?fuseaction=ronpaul

LEK
03-13-2008, 07:41 AM
When I watched the video - it was obvious this man supported what the RP Revolution stands for - yes?

Thanks for posting this - very much needed to maintain a level headed approach.

torchbearer
03-13-2008, 08:32 AM
i've been meaning to join myself.

torchbearer
03-13-2008, 08:41 AM
For those who haven't seen the seminar: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

Conza88
03-13-2008, 08:54 AM
DEAD on...

After the campaign - where do people go?

FREEDOM - FORCE... period.

Don't go back to sleep - you'll wake up in a nightmare.

I am contemplating joining a charter here in Australia, or making one.

SweetMona
03-13-2008, 09:07 AM
For those who haven't seen the seminar: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

Most videos on goggle or youTUBE are not programmed with closed captioning. Even I went online www.dotsub.com (http://www.dotsub.com), they only show few ones with CC. It's been difficult for me wanting to watch and understand what each video's about. In the future, if you have any transcript in handy then please do attach it. Merci

(Deaf gal here)

torchbearer
03-13-2008, 09:11 AM
Most videos on goggle or youTUBE are not programmed with closed captioning. Even I went online www.dotsub.com (http://www.dotsub.com), they only show few ones with CC. It's been difficult for me wanting to watch and understand what each video's about. In the future, if you have any transcript in handy then please do attach it. Merci

(Deaf gal here)

Contact freedom-force and see if they have CC version or transcript you can read.
I'd transcribe it, but its an hour and a half long!

dannno
03-13-2008, 09:13 AM
When I watched the video - it was obvious this man supported what the RP Revolution stands for - yes?

Thanks for posting this - very much needed to maintain a level headed approach.

Yes. Checkout his book (or watch his google video movies) called "The Creature from Jeckyll Island", it's about the creation of the Federal Reserve.

A Ron Paul Rebel
03-13-2008, 09:31 AM
Ofer, I added this to my list of freedom sites.
When you come across others, make a note
so that we can better 'stand and unite' and
leverage our efforts.

Hunter

pcosmar
03-13-2008, 09:34 AM
All good stuff.
Parallel movement.

Cleaner44
03-13-2008, 09:48 AM
Freedom Force is the Ron Paul Revolution to me. This sentence says it all:

The battle to restore the Constitution is not going to be won in 2008 even if Ron Paul is elected.

torchbearer
03-13-2008, 02:07 PM
bump

Bro.Butch
03-13-2008, 02:22 PM
Freedom Force is the Ron Paul Revolution to me. This sentence says it all:

"The battle to restore the Constitution is not going to be won in 2008 even if Ron Paul is elected."


True, hopefully we spread the message to 300 million people and keep increasing our numbers so, someday WE WIN !

OptionsTrader
03-13-2008, 02:42 PM
I am a member.

Down with the pirates.

http://tinyurl.com/2pk9p6

torchbearer
03-13-2008, 02:49 PM
I am a member.

Down with the pirates.

http://tinyurl.com/2pk9p6

I watch that video almost nightly.

humanic
03-13-2008, 02:55 PM
Here is a great speech G. Edward Griffin made about Ron Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6zhIiGCvg

I will also once again recommend that everyone read the following, also by G. Edward Griffin. You will not regret it.
Part 1: The Chasm (http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf)
Part 2: Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas (http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf)
Part 3: Days of Infamy (http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling3.pdf)
Part 4: The War on Terrorism (http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf)
Part 5: An Idea Whose Hour Has Come (video) (http://video.google.com/url?docid=6015291679758430958&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=5017&q=idea%2Bwhose%2Btime&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3 Fdocid%3D6015291679758430958&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D6015291679758430958% 26q%3Didea%2Bwhose%2Btime%26total%3D606%26start%3D 0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D 0&usg=AL29H20_QDZxhTLRxTnUYrZjTjXRVEVqjQ)

TruthAtLast
03-13-2008, 03:36 PM
member and just upped my monthly donation.

OferNave
03-13-2008, 09:33 PM
DEAD on...

After the campaign - where do people go?

FREEDOM - FORCE... period.

Don't go back to sleep - you'll wake up in a nightmare.

I am contemplating joining a charter here in Australia, or making one.

Here's a progress report from a chapter in Sydney:

http://www.freedom-force.org/printerfriendly.cfm?pffile=AUSYDNEY20060221_conten t.cfm

gerryb
03-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Most videos on goggle or youTUBE are not programmed with closed captioning. Even I went online www.dotsub.com (http://www.dotsub.com), they only show few ones with CC. It's been difficult for me wanting to watch and understand what each video's about. In the future, if you have any transcript in handy then please do attach it. Merci

(Deaf gal here)

I believe this is a transcript of the video -- it at least contains all of the topics that were discussed.

http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

OferNave
03-14-2008, 04:02 AM
I believe this is a transcript of the video -- it at least contains all of the topics that were discussed.

http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

Nope, that's part 1. The video is part 5, and has yet to be transcribed. From the site: "This is not yet in written form but may be viewed here on YouTube."

I'm half tempted to just do it myself.

Conza88
11-30-2008, 10:21 AM
:)

constituent
11-30-2008, 10:34 AM
After the campaign - where do people go?

FREEDOM - FORCE... period.


+1

tonesforjonesbones
11-30-2008, 10:38 AM
G. Edward Griffin's Freedom Force is fantastic. I really like his idea of how to set up the organization...not a pyramid, but fanned out, so if one unit gets infiltrated it doesn't destroy the entire organization. I like the idea of infiltrating other established groups and working to change hearts and minds. I reealllly love his lectures. Those lectures on communism/collectivism etc...from the sixties are STILL important today. It's good to understand communism and how it worked to take over our country...and I guess the premise is to do what they did in reverse. He is the best one! tones