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Joseph Hart
03-10-2008, 02:39 PM
A conspiracy is completely opinionated in action and the definition. Or that may be a conspiracy in on itself. I have just caused a conspiracy onto the actual definition of conspiracy. Why is this important? Common public reaction to "conspiracy" and or "conspiracy theory" is well known for its arguing opinionated point of view. I would like to state that having one point of view over 2 or more views has resulted in a neglect to ration the idea that the other may not be true. Those taking sides(in my opinion) have been swayed in that direction by a higher power. For example - "The Public Water Works put fluoride in the water for cleaning poverty stricken kid's teeth" or "The government has put fluoride into the water to dumb us all down." By not taking a side it leaves you with an open mind onto which is true. We can easily form our own opinions to which our elected officials say, or we can look at actual results. Both can be compromised and result in factual evidence. What we really need to look at in this particular argument is that it is not a conspiracy and falls under one or the other. The elected officials do not have final word, as they are not(or supposed to be more) powerful than you and me. To come to conclusion, "Conspiracy" or "Conspiracy theory" is only opinion between 2 trains of thought and not between two people or more. Let this be a reason to always question everything, not only your government but every little piece of opinion. Advertisements, news articles, defined terms, and your own opinionated thoughts can be questioned.


Question definitions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conspiracy

ryanmkeisling
03-10-2008, 03:02 PM
:confused:

IcyPeaceMaker
03-10-2008, 03:44 PM
There are many kinds of conspiracy, here are some of the elements:

Legal definition of Conspiracy
Conspiracy. A combination or confederacy between two or more persons formed for the purpose of committing, by their joint efforts, some unlawful or criminal act, or some act which is lawful in itself, but becomes unlawful when done by the concerted action of the conspirators, or for the purpose of using criminal or unlawful means to the commission of an act not in itself unlawful.

A person is guilty of conspiracy with another person or persons to commit a crime if with the purpose of promoting or facilitating its commission he: (a) agrees with such other person or persons that they or one or more of them will engage in conduct which constitutes such crime or an attempt or solicitation to commit such crime; or (b) agrees to aid such other person or persons in the planning or commission of such crime or of an attempt or solicitation to commit such crime. Model Penal Code, § 5.03.

Crime of conspiracy is distinct from the crime contemplated by the conspiracy (target crime), Corn. v. Dyer, 243 Mass. 472, 509, 138 N.E. 296, 314, cert. denied, 262 U.S. 751, 43 S.Ct. 700, 67 L.Ed. 1214. Some jurisdictions do not require an overt act as an element of the crime, e.g. Corn. v. Harris, 232 Mass. 588, 122 N.E. 749.

A conspiracy may be a continuing one; actors may drop out, and others drop in; the details of operation may change from time to time; the members need not know each other or the part played by others; a member need not know all the details of the plan or the operations; he must, however, know the purpose of the conspiracy and agree to become a party to a plan to effectuate that purpose. Craig v. U. S., C.C.A.Cal., 81 F.2d 816, 822.

There are a number of federal statutes prohibiting specific types of conspiracy. See, eg., 18 U.S.C.A.  371. See also Chain conspiracy; Co-conspirator's rule; Combination in restraint of trade; Confederacy; Seditious conspiracy; Wharton Rule.

Chain conspiracy. Such conspiracy is characterized by different activities carried on with same subject of conspiracy in chain-like manner that each conspirator in chain-like manner performs a separate function which serves in the accomplishment of the overall conspiracy. Bolden v. State, 44 Md.App. 643, 410 A.2d 1085, 1091.

Civil conspiracy. The essence of a "civil conspiracy" is a concert or combination to defraud or cause other injury to person or property, which results in damage to the person or property of plaintiff. See also Civil conspiracy.

Overthrow of government. See Sedition.

Seditions conspiracy. See Sedition.

Conspiracy in restraint of trade. Term which describes all forms of illegal agreements such as boycotts, price fixing, etc., which have as their object interference with free flow of commerce and trade. See Antitrust acts; Clayton Act; Sherman Antitrust Act.

Conspirators. Persons partaking in conspiracy. See Conspiracy.

Conspire. To engage in conspiracy. Term carries with it the idea of agreement, concurrence and combination, and hence is inapplicable to a single person or thing, and one cannot agree or conspire with another who does not agree or conspire with him. See Conspiracy.

SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

Truth Warrior
03-10-2008, 03:50 PM
I once read that conspiring to commit a misdemeanor is a felony. Is that correct? :confused:

Zippyjuan
03-10-2008, 04:38 PM
I like conspiracy theory. You can take a problem- real or imagined- and come up with whatever explination you want for it. Then any proof against your theory must be part of the cover- up to keep people from finding out the truth. This is not an unlawful act.

IcyPeaceMaker
03-10-2008, 04:46 PM
I once read that conspiring to commit a misdemeanor is a felony. Is that correct? :confused:
No, it's a misdemeanor, but it compounds the crime, and if the underlying crime is actually committed, then some jurisdictions may enhance the penalty for both.

Truth Warrior
03-10-2008, 06:27 PM
No, it's a misdemeanor, but it compounds the crime, and if the underlying crime is actually committed, then some jurisdictions may enhance the penalty for both.

Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it. :)

Mach
03-10-2008, 08:51 PM
The funny thing about "conspiracy" is, that's what law enforcement lives on, when they see someone doing "that" then as far as they're concerned "this" is what those people are doing, they have no proof, but, they "know" what's really going on and they dig in from there. When officials commit crimes they can cover them up because they control law enforcement from the top down.... wait a second..... was that a conspiracy?


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