UK jails considering RFID implants for prisoners

[New Governor Of Alaska]

George Orwell 1984
Part 1 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7Kznmrc3o4


And here's Part 2:


Ah -- dead, eerily-prescient, 20th century authors... they just can't stop proving you right, can they? In a decidedly Orwellian turn, British authorities are considering a proposal to implant "machine-readable" RFID tags under the skin of some prison inmates as part of a plan to free up space in the country's overcrowded prisons.

Just like the nightmare world described in your favorite cautionary tales, the chips would enable authorities to track the location of implantees using satellite and radio-wave technology. The program would build off of the current ankle-tagging currently in place, and according to a official from the Ministry of Justice who finds the plan double-plus good, "All the options are on the table, and this is one we would like to pursue." Of course, the controversial concept does have its detractors, Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, says that, "If the Home Office doesn't understand why implanting a chip in someone is worse than an ankle bracelet, they don't need a human-rights lawyer; they need a common-sense bypass." Shortly following this statement, however, Shami was taken to an interrogation room and outfitted with a rat-hood, and all record of her existence was erased from state records.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/14/uk-jails-considering-rfid-implants-for-prisoners/


In Mexico many people are microchiped already....

Microchips implanted in Mexican officials

Attorney general, prosecutors carry security pass under their skin
Carlos Altamirano is scanned to show the 16-digit code of his implanted VeriChip chip in this file photo from July 2003 in Mexico City. Now the same technology is being used by Mexico's attorney general and hundreds of others.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055

http://www.tldm.org/News4/VeriChipInserted.jpg

Microchip in Mexico Law enforcement
VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45-PN-_Ptpk


Animal tags for people?

Business Week reported on January 11, 2007:

Under the federally supported National Animal Identification System (NAIS), digital tags are expected to be affixed to the U.S.'s 40 million farm animals to enable regulators to track and respond quickly to disease, bioterrorism, and other calamities. Opponents have many fears about this plan, among them that it could be the forerunner of a similar system for humans. The theory, circulated in blogs, goes like this: You test it on the animals first, demonstrating the viability of the radio frequency identification devices (RFIDs) to monitor each and every animal's movements and health history from birth to death, and then move on to people.
Well, all you conspiracy buffs, let me introduce you to Kevin McGrath and Scott Silverman. McGrath heads a small, growing company that makes RFID chips for animals…and people.
Silverman heads a second company that sells the rice-size people chips, which are the only ones with Food & Drug Administration (FDA) approval, for implantation in an individual's right biceps. They carry an identity marker that would be linked to medical records. His goal is to create "the first RFID company for people."

http://www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm

[Kludge]

You give up your rights when you break the law....

Which is why we could do without 75% or so of laws

[New Governor Of Alaska]

You give up your rights when you break the law....

Which is why we could do without 75% or so of laws

One day a microchip under your skin will replace an ID card and then it might be illegal in UK and US to leave your home without microchip implant.

[Truth Warrior]

Is anyone else beginning to think that just maybe Orwell's "1984" was merely a leaked blueprint? :D

[Dr.3D]

I would rather die than get one of those.

[Kludge]

One day a microchip under your skin will replace an ID card and then it might be illegal in UK and US to leave your home without microchip implant.



You give up your rights when you break the law....


It's still wrong to implant something a law-abiding citizen doesn't want.

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Truth Warrior, I think "1984" was written by the MI5 agents to prepare Brits and Americans for this crap.


What is MI5?
The Security Service, commonly known as MI5 (Military Intelligence, Section 5), is the United Kingdom's counter-intelligence and security agency and is part of the intelligence machinery alongside the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS or MI6), Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI5

MI5 logo:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/uk/images/mi5_2.gif


The Great Seal of the United States:

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2163744/2/istockphoto_2163744_dollar_bill_pyramid.jpg



I am sure this is just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.... :rolleyes:

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Why Do American People Never Protest?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=125517


It's still wrong to implant something a law-abiding citizen doesn't want.

I agree with you, Kludge. I am not saying that we should surrender. But who's protesting?
UK's PM Brown moves ahead with his ID cards plan. And who is protesting?
Who is protesting in America? Only this small group I guess.....

http://old.antichips.com/images/000-verichip-protest-may-1-560w.JPG


http://old.antichips.com/

[LEK]

Interesting Bill in Georgia

"Microchip Consent Act of 2008"
H.B. 940: "No person shall be required to be implanted with a microchip."


The Microchip Consent Act of 2008 hit a snag March 6th as the House Rules Committee voted vociferously to keep it in committee, because some members don't thoroughly understand it.


The facts are these. While H.B. 940 (a) creates a law to prohibit anyone from being required (intimidated, coerced or physically threatened) to submit to a microchip implant, (b) it does not prohibit microchip implants in those that do not object.


Microchips, simple or complex, are privacy-invading devices.
A simple microchip to be implanted on or just under the skin may be comprised of only a 16-digit barcode that may be read from a few feet away.


A more sophisticated microchip is designed for deep body implants and tracking by satellite. This chip could be imbedded in a person's limb, torso, neck and head. It includes an individual identifier; a triggering and positioning component; a radio frequency, cellular, sound, light, and/or TV wave analog and/or digital technology; an integrated GPS receiver and a transmitter.
To read the rest of this article in PDF format, please click here.

http://www.georgiaeagle.org/

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2...text/hb940.htm

[ARealConservative]

It's still wrong to implant something a law-abiding citizen doesn't want.

law abiding citizens don't want incarceration either, so should that be taboo as well?

[New Governor Of Alaska]

A more sophisticated microchip is designed for deep body implants and tracking by satellite. This chip could be imbedded in a person's limb, torso, neck and head. It includes an individual identifier; a triggering and positioning component; a radio frequency, cellular, sound, light, and/or TV wave analog and/or digital technology; an integrated GPS receiver and a transmitter.
To read the rest of this article in PDF format, please click here.

http://www.georgiaeagle.org/

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2...text/hb940.htm

And media doesn't say a word about it!
Thanks for the info, LEK.

[devil21]

law abiding citizens don't want incarceration either, so should that be taboo as well?

I dont have a problem with chipping someone already sentenced to prison time as long as the chip is removed after their sentence is up. We know that won't be the case though.

[Ex Post Facto]

Interesting Bill in Georgia

"Microchip Consent Act of 2008"
H.B. 940: "No person shall be required to be implanted with a microchip."


The Microchip Consent Act of 2008 hit a snag March 6th as the House Rules Committee voted vociferously to keep it in committee, because some members don't thoroughly understand it.


The facts are these. While H.B. 940 (a) creates a law to prohibit anyone from being required (intimidated, coerced or physically threatened) to submit to a microchip implant, (b) it does not prohibit microchip implants in those that do not object.


Microchips, simple or complex, are privacy-invading devices.
A simple microchip to be implanted on or just under the skin may be comprised of only a 16-digit barcode that may be read from a few feet away.


A more sophisticated microchip is designed for deep body implants and tracking by satellite. This chip could be imbedded in a person's limb, torso, neck and head. It includes an individual identifier; a triggering and positioning component; a radio frequency, cellular, sound, light, and/or TV wave analog and/or digital technology; an integrated GPS receiver and a transmitter.
To read the rest of this article in PDF format, please click here.

http://www.georgiaeagle.org/

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2...text/hb940.htm


Hmm maybe you don't have to take it, but after a huge disaster they offer it to people that want free aid? From Revleations:

13:10 If anyone has captivity, he will go. If anyone is with the sword, he must be killed. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints.

13:11 I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke like a dragon.

13:12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. He makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

13:13 He performs great signs, even making fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the sight of people.

13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.

13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn't worship the image of the beast to be killed.

13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;

13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six.

[Dr.3D]

Hmm maybe you don't have to take it, but after a huge disaster they offer it to people that want free aid? From Revleations:

13:10 If anyone has captivity, he will go. If anyone is with the sword, he must be killed. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints.

13:11 I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke like a dragon.

13:12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. He makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

13:13 He performs great signs, even making fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the sight of people.

13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.

13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn't worship the image of the beast to be killed.

13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;

13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six.

Sure sounds like that is what is happening.

Here is more about THE MARK:

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Revelation 14:9-11 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 "he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."

Revelation 16:2 2 So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.

Revelation 19:20 0 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:4 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

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Sounds like you get a choice, take the mark or death. That will surly test the faith of most people.

[chowdy]

I dont have a problem with chipping someone already sentenced to prison time as long as the chip is removed after their sentence is up. We know that won't be the case though.

I agree with you on both counts.

Why can't they just make it an anklet? This is just legislation to help ease these implants into acceptance, but I'm only stating the obvious to us RP'ers.

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Microchip in Mexico Law enforcement
VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45-PN-_Ptpk



Hmm maybe you don't have to take it, but after a huge disaster they offer it to people that want free aid? From Revleations:

13:18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six.


Here's what Acharya S says about number 666 in her The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold on page 271:


The mark of the Beast - 666

The much ballyhooed number, 666, mentioned in Revelation as the "mark of the Beast", was in fact held sacred in the goddess-worshipping cultures as representative of female genitalia. When the Goddess was vilified by the patriarhy, she became the "Beast" and her sacred number the "mark". The number 666 was not held to be evil or a bad omen in Judaism, as is evidenced by the biblical story of Solomon possessing 666 talents of gold.
In fact, it is a sacred number.

As Higgins says:
"The Hexad or number six is considered by the Pythagoreans a perfect and sacred number; among many other reasons, because it divides the universe into equal parts. It is called Venus or the mother. It is also perfect, because it is the only number under X, ten, which is whole and equal in its parts. In Hebrew Vau is six.
Is vau mother Eva or Eve?"

In addition, Anderson points out that "666" also corresponds to the sun rising at 6:00 a.m., reaching its height six hours later, and setting at 6:00 p.m.

As "history" or "prophecy", the book of Revelation is not only incomprehensible but destructive, not merely boggling the mind but causing people to see "beasts" and "Anticrists" everywhere, thus creating prejudice and bigotry, and serving as a blueprint for Armageddon and "end times". Understood as astrology, or astrotheology, however, Revelation is powerful and informative, as it represents condensed narration of the universal mythos and ritual, found throughout the Bible and revealed to be behind the Christ conspiracy. Its true meaning, of course, has been lost to the masses, as they have been told that astrology is "evil", a deliberate device to prevent them from studying it, because, with such astrological knowledge, they would understand clues such as Revelation (22:16), where the true nature of Jesus is clearly identified when he is called the "morning star", i.e., the sun, which is real "revelation".

http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Conspiracy-Greatest-Story-Ever/dp/0932813747