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Edu
03-10-2008, 08:23 AM
"I don't think it's very practical, and I think Republicans deserve to have at least a conservative to vote for," Paul said. "The conservative base does not the support John McCain because he's identified more with the liberal Democrats. So why should they be disenfranchised? Although the odds are slim, but they have a right to vote for someone that stands for traditional Republican principles: limited government, personal liberties. I mean, this is something the Republicans used to brag about and preach, so they deserve a chance to vote for that."

Video on this page:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ron_Paul_Im_not_likely_to_0310.html

Possible direct video link:
http://www.rawprint.com/media/2008/0803/cnn_am_ron_paul_winding_down_080310a.flv

voytechs
03-10-2008, 08:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9E3TIbRNU

soapmistress
03-10-2008, 08:35 AM
Nice!

That made me smile.

We needed that a few days ago but it's still nice.

Edu
03-10-2008, 08:41 AM
First questions, MSM wishing it was so. They want it so bad!

1. "is the campaign over or not?" (Ron gives clear answer)

2. Ahhhhhhhhh, duhhhhhh, whaaaaaa? "you are going to continue to contest in the upcoming primaries?"

3. Duhhhh, whaaaaa??? "when people say ron paul is out of the presidential race, that's true, not true, partly true?"

Journalist or idiot? You decide!

(you just know the director is yelling in the earpiece , end the interview! Don't ask him any questions of substance like economy, inflation, recession, DON'T DO IT OR YOUR FIRED! GET HIM OFF THE AIR NOW!)

That's it folks, back to the blackout. Just my take on the video.

rockandrollsouls
03-10-2008, 09:02 AM
I liked how he basically called out both McCain and Obama...Saying McCain is a liberal and Obama is, for the most part, a liar. Made me grin from ear to ear.

Take that all you Obama supporters on here!

ItsTime
03-10-2008, 09:03 AM
He was talking about a third party run when he said that... get ready its coming!

prlgrl
03-10-2008, 09:14 AM
"won't support McCain, Obama's war policy fraudulent" "No conservative choice for voters"

Kinda, sorta, sounds like hinting 3rd party to me..... won't be anyone to vote for unless he does!

ItsTime
03-10-2008, 09:15 AM
And he did not say NO like has been throughout the campaign....


"won't support McCain, Obama's war policy fraudulent" "No conservative choice for voters"

Kinda, sorta, sounds like hinting 3rd party to me..... won't be anyone to vote for unless he does!

limequat
03-10-2008, 09:25 AM
Said it's "not practical".

This whole exercise is not practical :)

acptulsa
03-10-2008, 09:38 AM
He was talking about a third party run when he said that... get ready its coming!

There is a difference between "third party" and "independent". Figure on an independent run--and please figure on circulating a ballot access petition in your state this summer. Thank you.

Shed
03-10-2008, 10:39 AM
"won't support McCain, Obama's war policy fraudulent" "No conservative choice for voters"

Kinda, sorta, sounds like hinting 3rd party to me..... won't be anyone to vote for unless he does!

I've never thought he would do it or even consider it, but I admit that in that interview... well, it looked possible.

That said, I don't see it being at all successful unless the message can overcome the media blackout, maybe get into a debate with the two pretenders. So how's that going to happen :( ?

acptulsa
03-10-2008, 10:46 AM
I've never thought he would do it or even consider it, but I admit that in that interview... well, it looked possible.

That said, I don't see it being at all successful unless the message can overcome the media blackout, maybe get into a debate with the two pretenders. So how's that going to happen :( ?

We're going to make it happen.

There will be less noise, voters will be more than familiar enough with the rest by then, we'll have more time, and if we get our man on the ballots there will be a lot less names of dropouts (it not being a late primary).

Of course, it will remain uphill. However, the conservatives will be confirmed as disenchanted, too. The economy is liable to be worse. The MSM will be continuing to mostly ignore McCain's possible Constitutional ineligibility and people will be wondering why. There is a lot that can happen and that we can make happen.

They want us to give up. They wouldn't be so keen to convince us to do so if we couldn't make a difference.

Roadrcr
03-10-2008, 10:48 AM
Can you imagine the money bomb if and when he announces it. Makes me giggle just thinking about it. Its all about timing. Maybe waiting for enuf dirt to get out there about the others. Or for mccain to explode or perhaps just his cheek.

WilliamC
03-10-2008, 10:49 AM
Maybe I'm not thinking clearly, but I just don't see how Ron Paul could win running as an independent.

Unless the media gives him far more coverage than they did to his bid for the Republican nomination, which is very possible as they will want to draw votes away from McCain.

Even then he will have to be able to speak to the masses far better than he did during the campaign for the Republican nomination. My impression is that most people just don't understand the message.

But if he decides to do this he'll have my support. Sometimes I feel like time is running out on us who want to see the USA remain free and peaceful.

goRPaul
03-10-2008, 10:56 AM
I just like what he said about Obama at the end. Every Obama supporter should see that.

acptulsa
03-10-2008, 10:58 AM
Even if we can just break 20%, considering the massive discontent that promises to engulf the land by 2012 I strongly suspect we can be the end of either the neocon RINOs or the two party system by then. Revolution, evolution--I'll take what I can get for liberty. Got someone better to vote for? Really?

Todd
03-10-2008, 11:03 AM
great video. I'm not voting for McCain or Obama.
I'll write in Dr. Paul first.

ItsTime
03-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Sometimes its not about winning (given a fair shake he might just win). We have a chance to educate the masses like never before. We have a chance of getting more Ron Paul congressmen/women and senators in office than ever before. It would only be 100% positive if Ron Paul ran as an indie. It would be a hard fight, but we have come this far, lets go further. Its about the Platform.


Maybe I'm not thinking clearly, but I just don't see how Ron Paul could win running as an independent.

Unless the media gives him far more coverage than they did to his bid for the Republican nomination, which is very possible as they will want to draw votes away from McCain.

Even then he will have to be able to speak to the masses far better than he did during the campaign for the Republican nomination. My impression is that most people just don't understand the message.

But if he decides to do this he'll have my support. Sometimes I feel like time is running out on us who want to see the USA remain free and peaceful.

NoPants
03-10-2008, 11:21 AM
Nice! That gave me a boost.

smithtg
03-10-2008, 11:38 AM
First questions, MSM wishing it was so. They want it so bad!

1. "is the campaign over or not?" (Ron gives clear answer)

2. Ahhhhhhhhh, duhhhhhh, whaaaaaa? "you are going to continue to contest in the upcoming primaries?"

3. Duhhhh, whaaaaa??? "when people say ron paul is out of the presidential race, that's true, not true, partly true?"

Journalist or idiot? You decide!

(you just know the director is yelling in the earpiece , end the interview! Don't ask him any questions of substance like economy, inflation, recession, DON'T DO IT OR YOUR FIRED! GET HIM OFF THE AIR NOW!)

That's it folks, back to the blackout. Just my take on the video.



IDIOT!!! MORON!! The MSM wanted so bad for him to say 'its over' but they way he said 'its never really over' really rubbed it in.

I didnt expect much substance, but the substance was the fact that he said the revolution is still alive and well and [U]we will be maximizing delegates to influence party postions[U]

TruthAtLast
03-10-2008, 12:05 PM
That said, I don't see it being at all successful unless the message can overcome the media blackout, maybe get into a debate with the two pretenders. So how's that going to happen :( ?

I think the bigger question would be whether he would ACTUALLY run a REAL campaign, with professionals at the helm.

Yes, of course there was a media blackout. No one can deny that. But early on, much of this blackout was caused by the HQ themselves that had no organization, no leadership, no idea how to effectively spend the money they got, no idea how to prepar Ron for effective interviews and debates, and no clue how to disemminate infromation (how many intelligent people still have no friggin clue how the delegate process REALLY works).

He has a great "message" but doesn't communicate it in a way that people can understand and relate to directly and I mostly blame the campaign for this (this is what a politcal team is FOR).

If the does run as an independent, aside from the Media's preconceived notions, the question is whether the campaign could convince the Media that he is IN FACT a legitamate candidate. Because up to this point, most of what has given the campaign any sense of legitamacy is the Grassroots efforts that have been doing almost everything on their own. If you look like you are running for high school class President, then that is how you will be treated.

Fire the staff of "friends" and hire professionals. If he needs the money, we'll get him the money. Money has rarely been the issue here. Get quality spokesmen that are ALWAYS available to all media and immediately return their calls and emails. Instead we get Ron Paul supporters in front of cameras that are good people but don't know what they are talking about, or don't have the ability to articulate it.

Reporter: "So why do you support Ron Paul."
Supporter: "down with the FED. Ron Paul!!!!!!! Whoooooooooo Hooooooo!!!"

AFM
03-10-2008, 02:03 PM
Just destroyed Obama

Matthew P.
03-10-2008, 02:03 PM
I think the bigger question would be whether he would ACTUALLY run a REAL campaign, with professionals at the helm.

Yes, of course there was a media blackout. No one can deny that. But early on, much of this blackout was caused by the HQ themselves that had no organization, no leadership, no idea how to effectively spend the money they got, no idea how to prepar Ron for effective interviews and debates, and no clue how to disemminate infromation (how many intelligent people still have no friggin clue how the delegate process REALLY works).

He has a great "message" but doesn't communicate it in a way that people can understand and relate to directly and I mostly blame the campaign for this (this is what a politcal team is FOR).

If the does run as an independent, aside from the Media's preconceived notions, the question is whether the campaign could convince the Media that he is IN FACT a legitamate candidate. Because up to this point, most of what has given the campaign any sense of legitamacy is the Grassroots efforts that have been doing almost everything on their own. If you look like you are running for high school class President, then that is how you will be treated.

Fire the staff of "friends" and hire professionals. If he needs the money, we'll get him the money. Money has rarely been the issue here. Get quality spokesmen that are ALWAYS available to all media and immediately return their calls and emails. Instead we get Ron Paul supporters in front of cameras that are good people but don't know what they are talking about, or don't have the ability to articulate it.

I agree - his campaign needs leadership - thanks for the post.

I too was refreshed by the video. One thing was a little upsetting though - his estimate of his supporters was at 350,000 - do you all think that is right? I think that the movement is much bigger than that!

In order to represent just 1% of the population of the U.S. we would need over 3,000,000 (three million) Ron Paul votes - that's huge, and right now, it seems - we have 1% of that 1% or .001% of the a vote that would even begin to carry substance in the upcoming election. That is somewhat depressing.

Are we bigger than 350,000?! Is freedom really popular, or is it just popular with us, the minority? :confused:

Banana
03-10-2008, 02:06 PM
I think he said 350K donors...

There's more supporters than there are donors, I'd imagine..

voytechs
03-10-2008, 02:35 PM
I just like what he said about Obama at the end. Every Obama supporter should see that.

I edited that part in a short version of the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uud-fqelmaI

newyearsrevolution08
03-10-2008, 02:44 PM
great interview and yes people will feel like idiots once mccain OR obama keep us in war forever. Obama will not only broaden our warmongering BUT will also expand socialism right here at home.

People are eating it up too and its sad.

Fight on ron paul!

Edu
03-10-2008, 03:54 PM
Getting only a little news from this:
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22ron+paul%22

Should be more, if you compare against all the stories of him "out". Of course that was a AP story, which all these places just print without checking.

(see "all ## news articles" links to see that most of the stories are old leftovers from the "out" part)

torchbearer
03-10-2008, 04:26 PM
bump!
too bad they won't play this as much as the "he's quit" news pieces.
people will still have this idea that he dropped out.

Minlawc
03-10-2008, 05:52 PM
"won't support McCain, Obama's war policy fraudulent" "No conservative choice for voters"

Kinda, sorta, sounds like hinting 3rd party to me..... won't be anyone to vote for unless he does!

I think he would definitely endorse and campaign for a 3rd party or indipendent candidate. Probably Indipendent, to seem more loyal to the Republican party.