Some way to contact GEORGE CARLIN for an endorsement?

[Sentient Void]

I Was always a fan of George Carlin, and Saturday night (March 1), I watched his HBO special, "It's Bad for Ya". Pretty funny stuff.

At the same time, a majority of it was mroe like him on his soapbox. Hearing his views and what not, especially during that stand up, are pretty much in-line with what Ron Paul and what we stand for in terms of political topics.

I think the campaign should contact him, or if someone manages to find a way to get his email, or a forum of some sort that he might frequent - maybe we could get a message to him.

Any thoughts?

[Tdcci]

If you were George Carlin, and were contacted by the campaign staff of a candiate asking for an endorsement, would you not think that they were self-important?

[homah]

I don't think he is going to endorse any politician, ever.

"I don't vote, fuck em, fuck em..."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ&feature=related

[Conza88]

I don't think he is going to endorse any politician, ever.

"I don't vote, fuck em, fuck em..."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ&feature=related

Simple reply. Ron is NOT a politician.

He IS a statesmen. :)

So George can vote - best bet: GO to his show, one guy could scream in a break during the set "George - vote for Ron Paul" - Lulz.. and - he'll probably go on and address the topic --- or just ask him after the show :P

[CaliforniaAndre]

Just quoting Carlin on some of the shit that gets by us.....

[Sentient Void]

Well, he says "fuck 'em fuck 'em" and what nto because of the neocon agenda.

As Conza said, he's not a politician, he is a statesman. The idea is to get Ron Paul to be recognized or even just to start looking him up at least... associating him with popular names in the american culture would be a great start.

I mean, what's the hurt in trying? I don't have a lot of time now, I'll put in a put mroe later, but a couple initial searches on Google didn't pull up much of use on Carlin.

Remember guys, we need to think outside of the box on possible ways to get Ron's name out there, and garner more support for him still.

We need more ideating.

[homah]

Well, he says "fuck 'em fuck 'em" and what nto because of the neocon agenda.

As Conza said, he's not a politician, he is a statesman. The idea is to get Ron Paul to be recognized or even just to start looking him up at least... associating him with popular names in the american culture would be a great start.

I mean, what's the hurt in trying? I don't have a lot of time now, I'll put in a put mroe later, but a couple initial searches on Google didn't pull up much of use on Carlin.

Remember guys, we need to think outside of the box on possible ways to get Ron's name out there, and garner more support for him still.

We need more ideating.

Didn't mean to thwart your efforts, just thought it was a funny quote/clip. It would be amazing to get some sort of acknowledgment from Carlin that Paul is what this country needs.

[Truth Warrior]

For interview with George Carlin, contact: Jeff Abraham at Jonas Public Relations @ 310-656-3355 or by email at jeff@jonaspr.com.

[obsolescence]

I doubt Carlin supports Ron Paul.

He seems to hate capitalism...

[molly_pitcher]

I doubt Carlin supports Ron Paul.

He seems to hate capitalism...

This is true, on the otherhand - Paul and his supporters piss the establishment off. George has gatta love that!

[Truth Warrior]

I doubt Carlin supports Ron Paul.

He seems to hate capitalism...

"Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven't had capitalism." -- Ron Paul

[yongrel]

FFS, these threads were old in July.

[The Good Doctor]

I saw Carlin's new special last night on HBO. He is the man, but there were only a few good laughs in it. It's worth watching, but IMHO he is losing a step.

PS Oh, and he won't endorse anyone.

[Rhys]

That's just more alienating our potential base, who thinks Carlin may be funny, but extreme leftist.

Just remember how all you lefties felt about us righties before Ron Paul... that's how the right still feels about all these leftist hippies like carlin, john stewart... they like cobert cause they get him. lol

[Tina]

That's just more alienating our potential base, who thinks Carlin may be funny, but extreme leftist.

Just remember how all you lefties felt about us righties before Ron Paul... that's how the right still feels about all these leftist hippies like carlin, john stewart... they like cobert cause they get him. lol

They obviously don't get Colbert or they wouldn't like him.

[Sentient Void]

From what he sounded like last night, he sounded anti-federalist, more for eprsonal liberties than anything else. He def. opposes the war in iraq and policing the world.

It's the main issues here. Out of all the candidates, I'll be Ron Paul would be the one he'd support if he knew about his actual stances.

As a matter of fact, I've noticed most people who are SUPPOSED leftists are NOT for BIG govt and higher taxes, etc. I'll be willing to bet they just start to associate themselves with what the left tends to believe and agrees with it simply because they place themselves with that group of people.

Sad, really.

I'll bet most, or at least a significant portion are libertarians at heart. And I think this is why the ROn Paul movement has this slow but VERY steady momentum. If anything - that's probably the healthiest type of momentum as well, meaning to me that it's mroe real than, for example, Obama's "momentum". I also believe because of that it is much mroe sustainable.

It's only a matter of time. People are waking up.

But we still have work to do... I will be contacting Carlin, regardless of what anybody here says, just to at least try. I believe some of you should as well.

If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.

[Staynsane]

I Was always a fan of George Carlin, and Saturday night (March 1), I watched his HBO special, "It's Bad for Ya". Pretty funny stuff.

At the same time, a majority of it was mroe like him on his soapbox. Hearing his views and what not, especially during that stand up, are pretty much in-line with what Ron Paul and what we stand for in terms of political topics.

I think the campaign should contact him, or if someone manages to find a way to get his email, or a forum of some sort that he might frequent - maybe we could get a message to him.

Any thoughts?

Watched it today and my initial thought was, wonder if he's voting for Ron Paul, how to contact him for his thoughts concerning endorsement. He has always been truthful to the extreme, at 70 he's no different. Gotta love him!

[kigol]

love george carlin

[Rhys]

They obviously don't get Colbert or they wouldn't like him.

true, I think I had it backwards.

[aksmith]

I Was always a fan of George Carlin, and Saturday night (March 1), I watched his HBO special, "It's Bad for Ya". Pretty funny stuff.

At the same time, a majority of it was mroe like him on his soapbox. Hearing his views and what not, especially during that stand up, are pretty much in-line with what Ron Paul and what we stand for in terms of political topics.

I think the campaign should contact him, or if someone manages to find a way to get his email, or a forum of some sort that he might frequent - maybe we could get a message to him.

Any thoughts?

George Carlin is a left wing socialist. What about that routine made you think he would ever be in favor of free markets and individualism?

The capacity for self delusion is alive and well among the faithful. My entire adult life people have been claiming "this celebrity" or "that politician" is a libertarian. And almost 100 percent of the time they have been insanely wrong. Tom Selleck, Clint Eastwood, Ronald Reagan, etc. and on and on.

Here are your libertarians: Penn Jillette, Drew Carey, Doug Stanhope. You may be able to add one or two to that list. But that's about it. I'm in my 50's and friends, the list has never been any longer than that. Get over it. There are a few million of us. While it would be nice to have celebrities, it is not essential.

Oh, and the people who claim to be libertarians and aren't is an even longer list most of the time and do us much damage: Glen Beck, Bill Maher, Neal Bortz, etc. Douchebags all.

[Joseph Hart]

Hows this sound?


Dear Mr.Carlin,

May I first state the you might want to keep an open mind while reading this letter. You are truly a man of principles. From freedom and liberty, your opinions are on the mark like a sharpshooter. As a fan of your brilliant comedic opinionated performances, I would like to help you with furthering your career with a once and a life time endorsement. Ron Paul....

[JeffersonAndLiberty]

But the reality just isn't there. Comics can't endorse politicians, imo, because even the rare good ones will be lambasted at some point by the press or their opponents. And that's when their endorsement becomes a punchline for the media or other comics. I love George Carlin, always have, but I don't think it's in his DNA to support a politician at this late stage of his life. He is always the cynic. And besides, I think comics lose street cred among other comics when they endorse ANY politician :)

[Sentient Void]

George Carlin is a left wing socialist. What about that routine made you think he would ever be in favor of free markets and individualism?

The capacity for self delusion is alive and well among the faithful. My entire adult life people have been claiming "this celebrity" or "that politician" is a libertarian. And almost 100 percent of the time they have been insanely wrong. Tom Selleck, Clint Eastwood, Ronald Reagan, etc. and on and on.

Here are your libertarians: Penn Jillette, Drew Carey, Doug Stanhope. You may be able to add one or two to that list. But that's about it. I'm in my 50's and friends, the list has never been any longer than that. Get over it. There are a few million of us. While it would be nice to have celebrities, it is not essential.

Oh, and the people who claim to be libertarians and aren't is an even longer list most of the time and do us much damage: Glen Beck, Bill Maher, Neal Bortz, etc. Douchebags all.

Firstly, left-wing socialist is superfluous. Have you ever seen a right-wing socialist? Didn't think so. Sorry, getting into semantics... my bad.

Anyways - I disagree with you. I have watched a few of his performances and I see nowhere where he has expressed "left wing socialist" views? If anything he has been criticizing the WHOLE establishment, left wing, neoconservatives mostly. Anything that seemed to allude to otherwise is more of a joke or mockery than anything else. I really wouldn't be surprised if he is a libertarian at heart, and is just flat-out sick of all the bullshit.

I actually just found this... watch this youtube video of him and tell me he doesn't sound like a Ron Paul supporter at LEAST (if he's not necessarily libertarian). You don't have to be necessarily an actual libertarian to support Ron Paul, anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIEkXd8xSCI

enjoy!

PS - interesting topic this turned into, nonetheless.

[Rhys]

Firstly, left-wing socialist is superfluous. Have you ever seen a right-wing socialist? Didn't think so. Sorry, getting into semantics... my bad.

Anyways - I disagree with you. I have watched a few of his performances and I see nowhere where he has expressed "left wing socialist" views? If anything he has been criticizing the WHOLE establishment, left wing, neoconservatives mostly. Anything that seemed to allude to otherwise is more of a joke or mockery than anything else. I really wouldn't be surprised if he is a libertarian at heart, and is just flat-out sick of all the bullshit.

I actually just found this... watch this youtube video of him and tell me he doesn't sound like a Ron Paul supporter at LEAST (if he's not necessarily libertarian). You don't have to be necessarily an actual libertarian to support Ron Paul, anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIEkXd8xSCI

enjoy!

PS - interesting topic this turned into, nonetheless.

there's no such thing as a right-wing socialist. that's an oxymoron. that's why you don't hear about them. it has nothing to do with semantics.

[Sentient Void]

there's no such thing as a right-wing socialist. that's an oxymoron. that's why you don't hear about them. it has nothing to do with semantics.

Oh, God - man. That is my POINT. As for it not being semantics - semantics is the study of meaning. What parts of that phrase were said, meant the same thing, thus making it superfluous. Semantics. If need be, look it up (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/semantics).

[jsu718]

Clearly you people haven't paid enough attention to the Nolan Chart. George Bush is pretty much a right wing socialist.

[aksmith]

Firstly, left-wing socialist is superfluous. Have you ever seen a right-wing socialist? Didn't think so. Sorry, getting into semantics... my bad.

Anyways - I disagree with you. I have watched a few of his performances and I see nowhere where he has expressed "left wing socialist" views? If anything he has been criticizing the WHOLE establishment, left wing, neoconservatives mostly. Anything that seemed to allude to otherwise is more of a joke or mockery than anything else. I really wouldn't be surprised if he is a libertarian at heart, and is just flat-out sick of all the bullshit.

I actually just found this... watch this youtube video of him and tell me he doesn't sound like a Ron Paul supporter at LEAST (if he's not necessarily libertarian). You don't have to be necessarily an actual libertarian to support Ron Paul, anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIEkXd8xSCI

enjoy!

PS - interesting topic this turned into, nonetheless.

Sentient: Unwittingly, you have proven my point. I've been watching Carlin since he started out as Al Sleet, The Hippy Dippy Weatherman. And sorry, but he does not have a libertarian bone in his body. And he IS a left wing Socialist, which designation has now become necessary because as someone pointed out after your post, the Neo-Cons are Right Wing Socialists.

I like Carlin. But he isn't and has never been a libertarian, conservative, republican, etc. Any of those things. Not in philosophy and not in comedy. Watch him when he's on a panel show like Bill Maher's or Larry King.

Delusion about celebrities apparently will never end. I remember people picking and choosing snippets of Ronald Reagan to prove to me he was "really a libertarian at heart." It was Bull then and it's BULL now. Sorry.

[Sentient Void]

Sentient: Unwittingly, you have proven my point. I've been watching Carlin since he started out as Al Sleet, The Hippy Dippy Weatherman. And sorry, but he does not have a libertarian bone in his body. And he IS a left wing Socialist, which designation has now become necessary because as someone pointed out after your post, the Neo-Cons are Right Wing Socialists.

I like Carlin. But he isn't and has never been a libertarian, conservative, republican, etc. Any of those things. Not in philosophy and not in comedy. Watch him when he's on a panel show like Bill Maher's or Larry King.

Delusion about celebrities apparently will never end. I remember people picking and choosing snippets of Ronald Reagan to prove to me he was "really a libertarian at heart." It was Bull then and it's BULL now. Sorry.

To start, as for George Carlin, you may be right. I have not seen everything George Carlin has done, msotly his msot recent stuff, and a number of youtube videos - the one I included. Based on what I saw, I didn't necesssarily see a libertarian, but from what I saw I definitely didnt see a socialist, seemed to me like despite anything else, of all the candidates, Ron paul would be the one that he would support. Again, if what you say is true and he made blatant socialist comments in the past and believes them now - then I am mistaken. No need to apologize! I'm glad you have enlightened me to it, actually - so I would not dedicate much more time to "pursuing" George Carlin for endorsement. Probably not a good idea thinking back on it anyways - as it may end up polarizing a lot of people away from Ron paul (like religious folk, George Carlin is VERY anti-religion).

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As for Bush and other neo-cons being a "right-wing socialist". Actually, they are not really right-wing in my opinion at all. The TRUE definition of a right-wing, or conservative, is smaller govt, lower taxes, non interventionalist policy, and typically fiscal conservation. I know Bush CLAIMS to be right wing, or republican - and he actually stated in his first election that he wanted to move AWAY from nation-building, and he wanted lower taxes, etc. But, as we have learned. Actions speak louder than words. In practice, he is a "values" conservative. But nothing more. In terms of GOVT issues, he is mroe liberal than anything else. Bigger government. tax hikes. War. These are actually classic democratic positions.

That is what neo-cons are and where they came from... they started out as liberals that "defected to the right" as it was said. The only thign that's "right-wing" about them, are "moral issues" like abortion, gay marriage, religion, etc. That's the only thing that had them considered as part of the "right" for whatever reason. This should not be considered as part of the right.

As Ron Paul said, the republicans have "lost their way".

[crazyfingers]

He's given up on politics, it seems. He said "This country is finished" here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVXj8F9Fmk

I hope he's wrong because there's really nowhere better to go.